npturton Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 wheres the installation manual for installing the Incognito, Ive got mine but awaiting instructions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Nigel, http://spiflash.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npturton Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Thx a lot, how did I miss that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Still no luck on the ATR files. I've tried every XL/XE configuration I can think of and nothing works. I can't believe all the ATR files I've tried so far are bad either, actually it doesn't look like the Incognito is even loading the game. Any idea what could be wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 and what it does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 When I select an ATR it just goes to SDX or BASIC (if I have SDX disbaled). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam242 Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 Do you have SIDE enabled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Yeah. I can load xex files through side just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 ok.. do you have APT partitions set up? if so, can you boot into SDX and have directory of your hard drive partitions listed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Let's be clear about our terms here: Sebastian asks do you have SIDE hardware turned on in the BIOS. The XEX loader will load XEX files just fine even if this is turned off (I think). ATR files are a different matter, since the loader has to hand them over to the PBI (i.e. the SIDE Hardware). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 ok.. do you have APT partitions set up? if so, can you boot into SDX and have directory of your hard drive partitions listed? I have no APT partitions. The card is just a big FAT32 partition with some files dumped on it. I wanted to get this working before I messed with more complex things. Let's be clear about our terms here: Sebastian asks do you have SIDE hardware turned on in the BIOS. The XEX loader will load XEX files just fine even if this is turned off (I think). ATR files are a different matter, since the loader has to hand them over to the PBI (i.e. the SIDE Hardware). Yes I do. I double checked that last night. I have the XL/XE set to stock everything just in case it was a memory expansion that was causing the issue. Could the PBI Identifier number be the issue? It's set to 1 now, but I think I tried others and there was no change. Another question, this time it's not SIDE or Incognito related but I noticed it last night when I was fiddling with my multicart. When you run Hard Hat Mack on an 800, what colors do you see? Are they purple and green or do they look like this? http://www.atarimani...2393.html Mine is a nasty purple/green combo. Since the game came out in 83 you'd think that the 800's artifacting would be the correct one, but it looks terrible compared to that screen shot (what system did they use?). The artifacting also looks sort of 'grainy', with very visible gaps in the pixels, I wonder if this is because I'm using the separate Chroma and Luma on the back of my 1702 monitor vs the composite jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam242 Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 The artifacting also looks sort of 'grainy', with very visible gaps in the pixels, I wonder if this is because I'm using the separate Chroma and Luma on the back of my 1702 monitor vs the composite jack. Yes. Using separate chroma and luma greatly diminishes or eliminates the artifact color effect. Great for hi-res games, 80 collumn text, or FJC's GUI... Not so good for games like Hard Hat Mack or Drol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Yes. Using separate chroma and luma greatly diminishes or eliminates the artifact color effect. Great for hi-res games, 80 collumn text, or FJC's GUI... Not so good for games like Hard Hat Mack or Drol. Well if I ever figure out what the heck is wrong with my composite I'll probably use that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I was playing around with SIDE this morning and still no luck. I copied over an entire directory worth of ATR files and none of them work (xex files work just fine). When I select an ATR it looks like the system resets and goes to whatever OS I have enables (Basic or SDX). I'm selecting the ATR file, and hitting ENTER. I've tried setting it to D1 with the space bar just in case, but it doesn't change anything. This is the setup I'm going with: Hardware: XL/XE Extended Memory: Stock config System: Stock config SpartaDos X: Disabled SIDE hardware: Enabled SIDE PBI ID: 1 Joystick 3&4 Enabled (I tried disbaled just in case, no luck) BTW how does one turn BASIC on in SIDE? It says it's off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Using the partition tool I was able to get ATR files to work (no idea why they won't working before). However I've noticed that some games don't want to 'flip' with the new button. For example I tried Ballyhoo and it didn't flip sides when I pressed the button. You can tell because you get an Internal Error, I verified this using SIO2PC and trying the same thing. However when I tried Plundered Hearts it did flip correctly. Any idea why this might be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 i got idea Jon forget to mention the version of PBI driver assumed there is APT partition and FAT32, if only one was present, ATR support woulnd't work at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 i got idea Jon forget to mention the version of PBI driver assumed there is APT partition and FAT32, if only one was present, ATR support woulnd't work at all That would be the problem. I only had the FAT32 partition originally. Now if I could figure out the 'flippy' issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 i'll give it a try, but it would be best, if you could post these atr files here, so we would know we're looking at the same page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 the version of PBI driver assumed there is APT partition and FAT32, if only one was present, ATR support woulnd't work at all Well remembered. That got fixed in the more recent versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Try Ballyhoo. If you don't flip the disk when it tells you to, you should get Internal Error End of Session. Ballyhoo.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+skr Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) While trying to update to SDX 4.46 I've just realized that I can´t boot ATRs too. In no configuration. And I can´t update to SDX 4.46, always get an error when 4*64k shall be deleted. Edited March 11, 2013 by skr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 While trying to update to SDX 4.46 I've just realized that I can´t boot ATRs too. In no configuration. And I can´t update to SDX 4.46, always get an error when 4*64k shall be deleted. Are you using the U1MB Flasher on Incognito? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) Those having issues with ATR booting: please try using the attached program so I can verify that the PBI driver works. matr.xex Run program, cursor to desired ATR, press escape, press enter, cursor to "boot image", press enter again. Edited March 11, 2013 by flashjazzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Yep, working just great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+skr Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Those having issues with ATR booting: please try using the attached program so I can verify that the PBI driver works. I´ll take back everything and announce the opposite: After updating to APT and reinstalling the card, it works like a charm. It was my fault that I was thinking I´ve already had updated this. Slowly there are too many devices and cards... Are you using the U1MB Flasher on Incognito? No. But as there is no SDX especially for Incognito I just have that voice in mind saying "Incognito technically is like Ultimate, use that one", but I can´t find the corresponding thread. All other devices I have now run SDX 4.46, but I can´t manage to update the incognito yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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