+CharlieChaplin Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 WHile you are at it, why dont you install a cigarette lighter and drink holder in the top of your disk drive.. It's retarded.,. Covox is a poorly executed hack at best.. Its not some kind of advanced (or even desirable to most people) sound system. And to force it on the user who is earnestly trying to purchase a decent MASS STORAGE INTERFACE is rediculous, and detracts from the credibility and professionality of the device.. Its VERY EASY to add a single channel covox to your atari if you want to experiment with one. Why trash out a good interface with it? I hate SDX... so for me a new IDE+ with built-in MyDOS 4.56789 with quite some bugfixes, 512byte and 1024 byte sectors, please Put SDX on the cigarette lighter, the drink holder or the nuclear toaster (oops, that was the Lynx)... And while you are at it, do not infect iranian nuclear power stations with worms, virusses or trojans, use SDX instead... -Andreas Koch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Does any living programmer have sufficient time in their life to fix all the issues in MyDOS? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Does any living programmer have sufficient time in their life to fix all the issues in MyDOS? But it has such a nice 1978 look and feel to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 @larry Yes I did. but the point is that I use in my daytime atari life several partitions that I want to boot from. Then It is spartados 3.3a, then it is MyDOS, then it is a XDOS partition and so one. This changes several times an hour. I do NOT want to jump into FDISK all the time, and believe me... the Boot feature in the START+RESET menu could be done better. When the boot function in this menu would simply swap the desired boot partition with D1: it would make a lot more sense. My D7: for instance is a MyPICO DOS partition with some tools (fdisk is on it too). But when I set in the boot menu that D7: has to boot, this works.. but as soon as it has booted, MyPICODOS wants to load the directory of D1: ... When the IDE+ boot menu BOOT DISK feature would simply had swapped D7: with D1: this would work perfect. When I say: boot from D7: I expect that D7: has turned into a D1:, and that my D1: partition is changed into D7: That would make a lot more sense. But I am not the coder of the BIOS, and I only can wait, and hope that this feature will be made some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 In the meantime I hope some can explain to me how to 'mount' a ATR file with SDX and IDE+ ... ofcourse I can boot the ATR with the built in Loader (I LOVE this feature!), but I understood that it also is possible to mount ATR's within SDX, so that let's say D2: becomes an ATR file that is onyour harddisk. I think that is a fabulous feature, but I can nowhere find a manual describing this feature. Thanks a lot! M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEtalGuy66 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I'd also like to notice that IDE+ already "forces" some things on users who may possibly have the device but also possibly do not want some features: e.g. SDX and battery-backed clock are "forced" on MyDOS users. I also know one IDE+ owner, who does not use the harddisk part (!). I am sure however that having these "unnecessary" options does not hurt anyone. You can't be serious.. Your comparing a system clock and a flash partition to a rediculous sound toy? It doesnt BELONG on the device.. WHy cant you simply connect the COVOX to your machine by some other manner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I see, you want something like the BB "pop & swap" feature -- press the button and swap the drives. Yes, that is handy. I asked about that years ago with the original KMK-JZ IDE, but the complications in the bios were significant, IIRC. Probably still are. But using the BB is slow and it's *huge* after using the IDE+2. -Larry @larry Yes I did. but the point is that I use in my daytime atari life several partitions that I want to boot from. Then It is spartados 3.3a, then it is MyDOS, then it is a XDOS partition and so one. This changes several times an hour. I do NOT want to jump into FDISK all the time, and believe me... the Boot feature in the START+RESET menu could be done better. When the boot function in this menu would simply swap the desired boot partition with D1: it would make a lot more sense. My D7: for instance is a MyPICO DOS partition with some tools (fdisk is on it too). But when I set in the boot menu that D7: has to boot, this works.. but as soon as it has booted, MyPICODOS wants to load the directory of D1: ... When the IDE+ boot menu BOOT DISK feature would simply had swapped D7: with D1: this would work perfect. When I say: boot from D7: I expect that D7: has turned into a D1:, and that my D1: partition is changed into D7: That would make a lot more sense. But I am not the coder of the BIOS, and I only can wait, and hope that this feature will be made some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender II Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I want one without COVOX. I would also like 2 copies of upgraded BIOS for the two previous version I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 Yes; I repeat my order: 8 IDE+ with 8 ribbon cables; without the COVOX although the idea of a cigarette lighter sounds very appealing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 You can't be serious.. Your comparing a system clock and a flash partition to a rediculous sound toy? It doesnt BELONG on the device.. WHy cant you simply connect the COVOX to your machine by some other manner? FYI: you cannot convince me trying to be insulting ("retarded") or such arbitrary statements of taste as above. Either use some substantial arguments or it is an EOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Ken is right covox doesn't belong there your single goal to have ide device with some sort of playback device for your wave player is little bit silly as an argument in discussion going in that direction how about RGB led matrix, 8x8 for a starters? why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Ken is right covox doesn't belong there your single goal ... is little bit silly When will you all finally learn (sorry for asking that question) that I do not regard assessing adjectives or expressions of your own taste as arguments? You're wasting your time writing all this "retarded", "silly", "doesn't belong" (why? because a superior authority of candle said so? I beg your pardon... ) going in that direction how about RGB led matrix, 8x8 for a starters?why not? That's very simple question and post #110 already contains an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdh Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Not too fussed about the COVOX either. By all accounts this a solid reliable disk interface and that's what attracted me to this implementation. Simius - could you add a ribbon to cable to my order? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 drac030: can't really say i can see any answer in post #110 you're reffering to silly stays, becase it is all what it is rgb matrix will add some disco lights to your wave player anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 @drac030 but a fact is that I asked for the non available IDE+ (2.0) and not for an interface with new bells and whistles (almost literally in this covox case), I think everyone can think of add ons that he or she would like to have in this interface but that is something for a new plan IMHO. I am at the point to order 25 of these original remakes to make sure that I get what I prefer. I agree with you that people should not try to 'win' a discussion with certain words but on the other side I would like to go back to my original request for the IDE+ ..... Why? I am confused what I am preordering at the moment. That's why .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) can't really say i can see any answer in post #110 you're reffering to Maybe read again, then. Then again. Until you find a hint. @prowizard: you of course are free to order even 250 (or 250 thousands) of rev. C remakes, and this, financially speaking, would probably prevail. I am not sure however that "prevail" is really equal to "win" in this case. And: post #110, fifth and sixth sentence ("It will be of course..."). Nothing else in fact matters. EDIT: and don't be "confused", just trust simius' skills: it either will work with the same reliability as rev. C (in fact, there is no one IDE+2.0, there are rev. A, rev. B and rev. C - I have rev. A), or I don't want it myself. Edited March 21, 2013 by drac030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Put me on the list for one of these please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 silly. a feature that serves just your own need, and it is incopatible with anything that already developed some kind of standard or agreement on how it should work over the years don't know what you're going to win implying i can't read with understanding, really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 silly (...) don't know what you're going to win implying i can't read with understanding, really Post #137. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 xxl rant mode on, so i'm off have better things to do than bump my head on the wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 xxl rant mode on, so i'm off Better phrasing: "no real arguments, so I will try trolling, then, if failed, I will express my unpardonnable offence". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 For those who want an add-on to the IDE+, whether it be covox or other device, why not just include a PBI DIP header for a daughter board? This way one could either leave it unpopulated or have some other neat add-on 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) obviously there is some kind of real argument comeetee that drac030 is part of letting him to decide (in comeetee meeting but ofcourse) what is a real argument and whatsnot i don't really need an argument to have an opinion, do i? anyways, if someone wants an pbi compilant hard disk interface that takes modern media i say wait much better choice than hard disk interface that plays a wave files and firmware wise is eons behind novadays standards definitive eot from my side i won't "troll" here again Edited March 22, 2013 by candle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndusGT Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) I hate SDX... so for me a new IDE+ with built-in MyDOS 4.56789 with quite some bugfixes, 512byte and 1024 byte sectors, please Put SDX on the cigarette lighter, the drink holder or the nuclear toaster (oops, that was the Lynx)... And while you are at it, do not infect iranian nuclear power stations with worms, virusses or trojans, use SDX instead... -Andreas Koch. I'm with you on this one I've always like MyDOS better, wanted to post this but did not know what the reaction would be. Is there anything about this interface that makes it harder than a BlackBox to have/create a MyDOS partition? Edited March 22, 2013 by IndusGT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndusGT Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 So how are we doing on the MOQ now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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