BillC #176 Posted March 25, 2013 Perhaps. But, as I see, from mysterious reason, header is demanded by persons who don't participate in this pre-order. I wasn't demanding a header, just offering an alternative when you responded that adding a dip switch would add too much cost and take up too much room. I also pointed out why the XL series couldn't control the cartridge port on the Rev.B when someone asked, the Rev.C rectified this issue and was a great success I already have a Rev.C that I am happy with but have been considering getting another. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atari8warez #177 Posted March 25, 2013 Ok guys, one of the worst things that can happen to a developer is to be flooded with last moment requests/demands as he/she is trying to finalize a product. I can relate to Simius' situation and I think we should limit our requests. Even a simple switch or header adds to the cost of the device and sometimes these additions can make a difference between making or breaking the very thin margins that most developers here work with. Let's give the guy a break and let's refrain from adding our personal dissatisfaction to the brew. We want to have a compatible and solid IDE interface here, let's concentrate on this and this only. We certainly need a cut-off point if we want to receive our devices in a reasonable time-frame. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marius #178 Posted March 25, 2013 @atari8warez I agree on that; I would be more than happy with just a 100% identical run of the last (Rev. C) batch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtariGeezer #179 Posted March 25, 2013 I already have 2 Rev C's, so I'll wait to see if a Rev D comes out in the future with a header to select the PBI ID. And yes, I would pay another $5 for that option Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louis #180 Posted March 26, 2013 Put me down for two + ribbon cable. My BBS is running great on the current IDE+ and 800XE. Almost never a problem. And if it does, a reboot always clears the problem Stack it with all features possible Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marius #181 Posted March 26, 2013 @Louis: so you finally decided you really want that Cigarette lighter? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skr #182 Posted March 26, 2013 @Louis: so you finally decided you really want that Cigarette lighter? Is that the new Blues Mobile or what? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+SoulBuster #183 Posted March 28, 2013 You have me down for one, I must have missed the cable option somewhere, please add it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atari8warez #184 Posted March 28, 2013 Could you please add a ribbon cable to my order, thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Larry #185 Posted March 28, 2013 Hi Simius- It would be helpful for some of us deciding if you could spell out what features that the new build will have. At this point in time, you may not know completely. I understand about the COVOX, but there have been a number of other "wishes" expressed that may or may not be included. -Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retrobits #186 Posted March 28, 2013 Exactly as Larry said -- I'm also really interested in this but would like to understand what's included before preorder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simius #187 Posted March 30, 2013 In the plan are: 1. swapping partition (momentary switch) 2. write protection (bistable switch) 3. easy change of #ID (header or somehow else) 4. 65C816 compatibility 5. CF card compatibility 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Larry #188 Posted March 30, 2013 Sounds great. Count me in for 1. (The 65C816 compatibility is very important to me, and likely will be for some others.) -Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flashjazzcat #189 Posted March 30, 2013 4. 65C816 compatibility Boards from the previous run aren't compatible? What's the reason for that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frankie #190 Posted March 30, 2013 I wish it had a case. Doesn't seem right to be just hanging out ... like it's fly is down... Frank Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simius #191 Posted March 30, 2013 Boards from the previous run aren't compatible? What's the reason for that? Strictly speaking, incompatible with the simplified application of this processor, not containing buffers, that could separate it from data bus in the first half of machine cycle. When 65C816 send memory bank address to the data bus, while 6502 leave it in the high impedance state. This leads to the data collision with circuits dependent only from address and not from PHI2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marius #192 Posted March 30, 2013 Am I understanding it right that features like a built in fdisk tool (which can be started on the fly) ... are Bios/Software related, and not (except for that single key) hardware related? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flashjazzcat #193 Posted March 30, 2013 Strictly speaking, incompatible with the simplified application of this processor, not containing buffers, that could separate it from data bus in the first half of machine cycle. When 65C816 send memory bank address to the data bus, while 6502 leave it in the high impedance state. This leads to the data collision with circuits dependent only from address and not from PHI2. So it's the 65C816's fault, in other words. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simius #194 Posted April 1, 2013 Am I understanding it right that features like a built in fdisk tool (which can be started on the fly) ... are Bios/Software related, and not (except for that single key) hardware related? It's hardware related in this sense, that need some memory area. Available 96kB is a lot, but not as much to put everything you wish. Ask Drac030, if there is enough place. So it's the 65C816's fault, in other words. I wouldn't say: fault. Relative incompatibility and that's all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simius #195 Posted April 1, 2013 I have some problem with header for #ID setup. Straight is to high. Right angle is uncomfortable and occupied to much place. I've a better way: Bad news: all new features will really cost more. Precisely +$4. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marius #196 Posted April 1, 2013 It's probably the most stupid thing to say, but serious: money is not really an option. Please make it good, not cheap. (I think the SDX connector on the backside is far too fragile to last; that needs to be a much stronger switch imho). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simius #197 Posted April 1, 2013 (edited) Which one you have? With black lever or white? White one was more rigid. Will not be much stronger, because there is no stronger in this size. Edited April 1, 2013 by Simius Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marius #198 Posted April 2, 2013 Which one you have? With black lever or white? White one was more rigid. Will not be much stronger, because there is no stronger in this size. I have the one with the black lever. I thought you were doing some changes to the PCB, so I thought that perhaps a bigger /stronger switch would be possible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Larry #199 Posted April 2, 2013 I hate to "add on," but I just thought of something that could possibly be improved. The external power connector (male plug) is not very robust. I bought several extras and installed a new one, after the first one came apart. You suggested a more robust version -- perhaps that one could be used? I realize that this is not an issue if one does not frequently plug the device into different computers. Just a thought/suggestion... BTW, I wonder why the female portion of a plug/receptacle is typically called a "jack" (at least here). -Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MEtalGuy66 #200 Posted April 4, 2013 The black box firmware is less than 64k (the newest/enhanced version of it) and that includes config programs for serial, paralell interfaces, the actual serial handler (loads from rom instead of having to occupy system ram), print spooling, ultraspeed SIO handlers, hardisk config, partition manager, a pretty extensive sector editor/copier, graphic screen dump routines for several different graphics modes and several different printers, and floppy formatting/config programs for the floppyboard.. I think with 96k, you should be able to pretty well support an IDE interface, a clock, and a flash partition.. And do it in a very "well-embellished" way.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites