+therealbountybob Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 Almost the same game, a little different with laser gates to get by and the passages are narrower. It is a little easier as well, I think they improved several features, it should be more correct to maintain this title as COM2 Thanks guys, might give it a bash TBH I don't think I'll be posting any more scores on this one. It's not a particularly good game and it's riddled with bugs that make things a bit of a lottery. It's that 2nd stage that is the pain, the only tip I have is to just try and survive it taking a few fuels and avoid the explosions and top of the screen; the game is more fun to play on commander where you have all the stages. COM2 is bug free (so far!) Finding Pilot toughest to make progess on but improved to 95,150. Escaped twice on Commander: 106,940 my scores Novice 120,000 [101,730] completed Pilot 95,150 Warrior 100,190 Commander 106,940 Total 422,280 I've added a Pre-Poll Poll for round 5 folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devwebcl Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 TBH I don't think I'll be posting any more scores on this one. It's not a particularly good game and it's riddled with bugs that make things a bit of a lottery. Interesting, which bugs ? I haven't seen any bug at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 Interesting, which bugs ? I haven't seen any bug at all... only in the 2nd stage where destroyed fuel ships sometimes re-appear (at the top of the screen) or your bullets don't destroy one of the baddies when they should . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devwebcl Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 only in the 2nd stage where destroyed fuel ships sometimes re-appear (at the top of the screen) or your bullets don't destroy one of the baddies when they should . right, always I though that as a feature more than a bug... this is the classical controversy about bugs vs features. In Mortal Kombat in newer games also has that discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devwebcl Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) Novice: 87,250 completed (NTSC) Pilot: 165,440 completed (PAL) Warrior: 232,690 completed (PAL) Commander: 79,580 (PAL) Total: 564,960 COM2: 62,300 Edited March 13, 2013 by devwebcl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam242 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Just for giggles, I had a crack at Caverns and Caverns II on my PAL machine tonight. Helped quite a bit with C.O.M. Novice (completed): 89710 Pilot (partial): 29140 Total: 118850 And it helped a bit with C.O.M. II - didn't seem any slower, I might have just played better. 20250. One off-topic comment - playing both machines back to back, I'm stunned how much better the video is on an 800 than my modded 1200xl. I hereby take back anything I may have said to the contrary on the other forum, and I'll probably be moving the PAL chip to my 800! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 We have our first Warrior ...Warrior: 232,690 completed (PAL)... latest tables Caverns of Mars 1st devwebcl 609,580 13pts NPW # 2nd therealbountybob 422,280 12pts N 3rd McKong 380,030 10pts NP 4th JK40001 314,200 9pts N 5th adam242. 149,140 9pts N 6th Goochman (N) 71,950 8pts 7th justin case 50,070 6pts 8th roadrunner (N) 48,630 6pts 9th Tickled_Pink 46,720 4pts 10th MaPa 41,130 3pts 11th jblenkle (N) 27,440 3pts 12th Champions_2002 21,390 2pts Letters after score = levels completed; given fixed scores: Novice=120,000 Pilot=170,000 Warrior=240,000 Commander=??? # Bonus for completing NPW $ Bonus for completing NPWC Caverns of Mars II 1st therealbountybob 75,800 3pts 2nd devwebcl 62,300 2pts 3rd Tickled_Pink 29,200 2pts 4th adam242. 20,250 2pts 5th roadrunner 18,350 2pts 6th jblenkle 16,000 1pt What happens next in the HSC? YOU DECIDE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickled_Pink Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 only in the 2nd stage where destroyed fuel ships sometimes re-appear (at the top of the screen) or your bullets don't destroy one of the baddies when they should . Yep. They're the ones. It's the fuel 'tankers' that are the biggest problem. Just shows that QA wasn't great for APX. Think I'll post a combined score just for ha-has. COM II isn't bad. Always wondered why there wasn't a Scramble clone beyond Beta Lyrae. Collision detection is better in COM II than it ever was in Beta Lyrae, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk40001 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) I wonder if there is actually a reliable way to pass through blob phase in Warrior level? I tried more than couple of times and found no safe way or hint, which really worked. 1. Keeping the ship in the middle, then on the left, then on the right etc? No way, blobs do not appear always in the same place. 2. To stop holding the fire permanently and try to shot each blob? No way, if you want to use your fingers in other days. 3. Moving the ship to the bottom of the screen to shot blobs from shortest possible distance, then move up and again quickly down trying to avoid the rest of blobs? Did not really work eather... My current scores: Novice: 89340 - fixed to: 120000 completed Pilot: 154470 - fixed to: 170000 completed Warrior: 82920 136990 (almost managed 3rd escape) Commander: 63520 = 436440 490510 Edited March 14, 2013 by jk40001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 New score for Phobos 50,010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devwebcl Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 com2: 83,900 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caco Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) COM (Novice) - 49160 (first try) COM2 - 18600 Edited March 15, 2013 by Caco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 I wonder if there is actually a reliable way to pass through blob phase in Warrior level? I tried more than couple of times and found no safe way or hint, which really worked. ... It's best to get low early holding fire down until you see them, then pick them off using manual fire; they move at a regular interval so when you start to run out of screen just dive past any you haven't destroyed. The game lures you into getting all the fuels but this is a trap as you have less time to shoot them so just collect 1 or 2 of the fuels 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caco Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 COM II - 60200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin case Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 only in the 2nd stage where destroyed fuel ships sometimes re-appear (at the top of the screen) or your bullets don't destroy one of the baddies when they should . There was me thinking these were proper elements of the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangia-Boy Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 28,940 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 There was me thinking these were proper elements of the game I feel another poll coming on... "Where these bugs with bugs bugs or features of the bugs" Completed Pilot - had my ususal terrible sector 2 blues, but them beat final few caverns with last life... my scores Novice 120,000 [101,730] completed Pilot 170,000 95,150 [164,010] completed Warrior 100,190 Commander 106,940 Total 497,130 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam242 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) I'm digging COM2... 41600 tonight. No joy with COM... I'm struggling with timing the laser gates on Pilot level. Edited March 16, 2013 by adam242 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk40001 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) Com1: Novice: 89340 - fixed to: 120000 completed Pilot: 154470 - fixed to: 170000 completed Warrior: 82920 136990 160860 (almost managed 3rd escape) Commander: 63520 132640 (almost managed 2nd escape) = 436440 490510 583500 Com2: 45350 92500 Edited March 16, 2013 by jk40001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champions_2002 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I have improved my score a little and got a score for the second game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devwebcl Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I wonder if there is actually a reliable way to pass through blob phase in Warrior level? I tried more than couple of times and found no safe way or hint, which really worked. 1. Keeping the ship in the middle, then on the left, then on the right etc? No way, blobs do not appear always in the same place. 2. To stop holding the fire permanently and try to shot each blob? No way, if you want to use your fingers in other days. 3. Moving the ship to the bottom of the screen to shot blobs from shortest possible distance, then move up and again quickly down trying to avoid the rest of blobs? Did not really work eather... I think thats a good strategy... in the manual mentions almost the same one. the best is to shoot them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallout_002 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) Novice - 41,030 Pilot - 31,540 Warrior - 39,420 Commander - 50,010 Caverns of Mars II - 16,900 Edited March 16, 2013 by Fallout_002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam242 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Saturday afternoon is a wonderful time to waste a few hours shooting things! Finally got the hang of those stupid laser gates that appear beginning in Pilot level, and I took a crack at the Warrior and Commander difficulty as well. I'm really getting into this game - it's one of those where you can just kind of wire yourself in and go on autopilot when you're doing well. My new scores: Novice 120000 (completed w/89710) Pilot 87940 (2 escapes) Warrior 55400 Commander 44910 total 308250 Also improved my COM2 score to 52550! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblenkle Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Caverns of Mars - 27,930 Caverns of Mars II - 16,900 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CupWinners Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 My first go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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