craigm71 #26 Posted April 25, 2013 I didn't know! Sorry =/ I guess I should not saying anything about the new Intellivision Expansion Module your about done with also? Wait...is this a public post...errk...ooops. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pixelboy #27 Posted April 25, 2013 In all seriousness, this makes me wonder how well the ADAM could interact with today's internet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craigm71 #28 Posted April 25, 2013 Well if I am correct, the fastest modem there is 1200baud? So there is that and no mouse, though the joystick could work While slow, I dont see why it could not work, it would just be ugly and mostly text...I would use it =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NIAD #29 Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) Well if I am correct, the fastest modem there is 1200baud? So there is that and no mouse, though the joystick could work While slow, I dont see why it could not work, it would just be ugly and mostly text...I would use it =P Actually, the fastest modem back in the day was any Hayes compatible 2400 baud modem attached to the ADAM via a Serial Interface and Cable. There was even an extremely enhanced version of ADAMLink (last version was 5) that was developed by Tom Clary and then of course a plethora of telecommunications software available in CP/M or T-DOS. I forget what the fastest baud rate that the ADAM Serial Interface could handle, but something is telling me 19,200, so an even faster modem (probably 9600 baud) could be attached to the ADAM via a Serial Interface, but one would be restricted to using CP/M or T-DOS... me thinks. Almost forgot, there were about three different mouse products released for the ADAM and instructions on how to convert a Commodore mouse, but why go through all the trouble... just use the Roller Controller as a mouse like we did BITD with numerous programs like PowerPaint. Edited April 25, 2013 by NIAD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamesD #30 Posted April 26, 2013 You should be able to handle 14,400 baud modems with a 19,200 serial interface as long as it has hardware handshaking. For that matter you could probably even use 19,200 modems, the transmission would just get halted more often. Too bad ADAMNET wasn't designed to also support modem communications. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pixelboy #31 Posted April 26, 2013 You should be able to handle 14,400 baud modems with a 19,200 serial interface as long as it has hardware handshaking. For that matter you could probably even use 19,200 modems, the transmission would just get halted more often. Too bad ADAMNET wasn't designed to also support modem communications. Okay, so let's say I want to connect my ADAM to my cable modem in the same way as I do with my desktop PC. Could a network card or module be devised where I could plug in the Ethernet cable? EDIT: Wi-Fi internet would be even cooler, by the way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craigm71 #32 Posted April 26, 2013 Are there anymore BBS up that the Adam can use? If I remember correctly, there is software so the Adam can be a BBS server. I have been looking on the internet for something that would take a modem and plug it into a network since I don't have phone service anymore but I have not been lucky so far. Has anyone done this before with their Adam? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamesD #33 Posted April 26, 2013 Okay, so let's say I want to connect my ADAM to my cable modem in the same way as I do with my desktop PC. Could a network card or module be devised where I could plug in the Ethernet cable? EDIT: Wi-Fi internet would be even cooler, by the way. It has been done on other 8 bit machines. The ones I've seen use a microcontroller for communication with the network. WiFi would just require more setup software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pixelboy #34 Posted April 26, 2013 It has been done on other 8 bit machines. The ones I've seen use a microcontroller for communication with the network. WiFi would just require more setup software. This sounds like a job for........ Raspberry Pi!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamesD #35 Posted April 26, 2013 This sounds like a job for........ Raspberry Pi!!!! Raspberry Pi would be an expensive way to do it. Frankly, I don't understand people's obsession with the RP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NIAD #36 Posted April 26, 2013 You should be able to handle 14,400 baud modems with a 19,200 serial interface as long as it has hardware handshaking. For that matter you could probably even use 19,200 modems, the transmission would just get halted more often. Too bad ADAMNET wasn't designed to also support modem communications. Something tells me that trying to use 14.4K and faster modems was attempted, but never accomplished... just can't remember after so many years. If I recall correctly, the top speed of 19,200 was useable when hooking up Serial Terminals in order to achieve 80 column output with the ADAM in the CP/M and T-DOS environments. This was a very affordable option compared to buying one of the two very expensive 80 Column Units that were made for the ADAM by Eve Electronics and Orphanware Business Systems. Oh, but Coleco did make an external 1200 Baud ADAMnet Hayes compatible modem and a few prototypes exist. Unfortunately in a cost cutting measure, they went with the 300 baud ADAMLink Modem wich installs in Slot #01. Coleco also developed an ADAMnet Serial & Parallel Interface that was named the ADAM Universal Interface. There are two known prototypes in existence and I just posted a picture of the finished case in another thread. I also have a description sheet about it's features that I have yet to scan, but will get to it soon. I know these don't help matters, but it was and can be done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jblenkle #37 Posted April 28, 2013 I tried calling some BBS' a year or two ago with my ADAM and couldn't connect with any of them. I'm not sure ADAM's ancient modem is up to today's telephone standards...either that or my modem no longer works. I called the same BBS' with my Atari 130XE and connected to them just fine. But my Atari modem is a later model that was designed to be used with any computer that has a serial port. Are there anymore BBS up that the Adam can use? If I remember correctly, there is software so the Adam can be a BBS server. I have been looking on the internet for something that would take a modem and plug it into a network since I don't have phone service anymore but I have not been lucky so far. Has anyone done this before with their Adam? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamcon #38 Posted April 28, 2013 I tried calling some BBS' a year or two ago with my ADAM and couldn't connect with any of them. I'm not sure ADAM's ancient modem is up to today's telephone standards...either that or my modem no longer works. I called the same BBS' with my Atari 130XE and connected to them just fine. But my Atari modem is a later model that was designed to be used with any computer that has a serial port. Now, as NIAD says...."back in the day".....he is correct, memory fades. But as I recall, 9600 baud was max for modem speed, while 19,200 was only for cpu to cpu serially. Using a 300 baud modem basically requires that all communication is in text mode; and as we did at an ADAM convention years ago, the user needed to get a "shell account" from the internet provider in order to tsurf the net in text. As far as a local BBS, seem to remember youj had to set the ADAM modem at 1/2 duplex inorder to send and receive data/text. For now, my brain is tapped out, so :"over and out" 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites