the_game_haven Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Did he ship it with the game cartridge inserted into the Jaguar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 enito > there are plenty of things that can cause a red screen. Bad contacts is the main reason (and that can even happend with a brand new console and cartridge, if the cartridge is not plugged just right). It could also be a damaged track you didn't notice. Basically, the whole cartridge is checked at boot time ; if even a single bit is incorrect, the result is a red screen. So a cut on any address or data line can cause that. If you're patient enough, I would recommend doing a continuity check with a multimeter on every pin of the cartridge port. But I'm not sure if you should bother ; you got sold a "working" Jaguar that doesn't, I would just get my money back and buy another one if I were you. Yep that i think the steps for fix, today i try again multimeter test, i have some photos without cart slot, for see the traces and try to correct (btw, any good quality photo of board without cart slot)??? PayPal claim FTW Yep , i think i take this step, my problem is return console to seller, cause i live far away Did he ship it with the game cartridge inserted into the Jaguar? Witouth CART , only console, power supply and tv conector. First time i get this trouble in ebay, everytime i purchase something works, except seller say NO WORK.. Greets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_game_haven Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Ah yep, a Paypal claim is the way to go then. If he shipped it with a game cartridge inserted, then I was going to say that perhaps USPS was rough on the package and the game cartridge acted a lever on the board and broke those traces. Out of curiosity, what is the sellers total feedback score up to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 Oki i do right now i claim in paypal, cause he sell me a non working stuff... here the item..Sure seller is : clatteringcollection Greets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Here are some pictures of a Jaguar without the cartridge port. Unfortunately, a few tracks were damaged on this one too. I hope they'll be useful anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 Thx a lot this can help a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 Here again, i fixed more traces but still grrrrrrr red screen, somelse with more hd photo of board? need to check a1 b1 a15 b15 area... thx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 Here are some pictures of a Jaguar without the cartridge port. Unfortunately, a few tracks were damaged on this one too. I hope they'll be useful anyways. Hi, again, you have more photos of downside area of this zone? need to check traces of L19, L20, apprently L19 have a missing trace but wanna be sure. I fixed the cart zone and check all 80 points, but still GRrrrrr red one ..need to check other places, im sure more missing trace. Any more good quality photo can help a LOT!!...thx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 For add, i add my question in photo.. The trace marked with black circle apprently is broken, just to wanna be sure, because i dont get continuity with multimeter, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isgoed Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Has this motherboard been swimming? There's a lot of rust in the screwhole of the cartridge-connector 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 Has this motherboard been swimming? There's a lot of rust in the screwhole of the cartridge-connector yep apprently, lot of corrosion and some traces are lost :/ but , i want win this jaguar doesnt powered, fixed some traces and now power only need to be clear in last point of photo i up, if this trace exist... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isgoed Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Can't help you with that, but I'm sure somebody else can, good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 thx!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I finally took the time to make 600 dpi scans of my NTSC Jaguar's motherboard : http://www.mirari.fr/yMVr http://www.mirari.fr/1wQu (warning : the files are 8 ~ 10 MB) Ignore the blue wires and glue glob on the lower right ; this Jag had a few broken traces when I got it and I had to fix them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 You rocks, thx a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Hi, i checked tracepoints, fixed someones (you can see cables) and still get the aRGGGGGG red one if you have some time for check for strange trace for fix, let me know thx for the try btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Hi, today i re try to fix this jaguar, i rechecked for 3rd time all pins of cart port continuity with multimeter, all fine, include the fixed ones. I cleaned again the cart slot, and inspect cart pins and apprently all is fine (i used iso alcohol and contact cleaner). But the red screen of death continue Hope i can get some more ideas for check... greets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 The problem is that it could be a damaged trace almost anywhere. It may even look fine, but be just corroded enough to cause problems. Honestly, I'm not sure it's worth spending hours trying to fix this - I would return it to the guy you get it from and try to get your money back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 The problem is that it could be a damaged trace almost anywhere. It may even look fine, but be just corroded enough to cause problems. Honestly, I'm not sure it's worth spending hours trying to fix this - I would return it to the guy you get it from and try to get your money back. Yep true need to check traces i check but nothing. Yep return but send back is like expensive than the money back . Seller wants jag for send money back. That is the reason for try to fix. Thx for the tips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 Me again, here i attach the cart slot, cleaned, and i think is OK. Now im testing pins with multimeter of other part of circuit, for try to find the failed track.. thx for your time for read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 Me again, checking with multimeter, i found something, but wanna be sure. PIn 12 of U12 (DTACK) going to U13 Pin 41? because i checked continuity and apprently i dont get. Wanna be sure if this read of manual is correct. Thx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) Pin 12 of U12 can't be DTACK, since the input of the buffer (pin 8 ) is DTACK too, and that wouldn't make sense. It's hard to read but it looks like it's DTACKL, which is connected to pin 15 of U15 (Jerry). Edited May 10, 2013 by Zerosquare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 Pin 12 of U12 can't be DTACK, since the input of the buffer (pin 8 ) is DTACK too, and that wouldn't make sense. It's hard to read but it looks like it's DTACKL, which is connected to pin 15 of U15 (Jerry). youre right, i dont see 8 is dtack, and other one is like dtack"." , this . is a L, and i checked is fine..i still checking all the points i can..this stuff cant win me ,) thx for your time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 Apparently , seeing schems U35 Pin 9 (EA3) i get continuity like say to U30 Pin 12 (EA3), but schems say to J2 take pin 16 (EA3) but i dont get continuity. Can be the trouble, but looking phisycally photos of traces i dont see any trace goes to J2 from EA3. Can be the problem? thx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) Hi, good news, finally this was the trouble!!! the trace to U35 EA3 ...i attach images of the jaguar working and trace made.. Thx to all for the guide , photos, and this can help for another people like me , fight to the end!!! Thx and greets! Edited May 12, 2013 by enito 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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