Sprybug Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 I played on my freshly received Sears (so NTSC system) well apart from the obvious colors that feel a bit better (only a bit, but I guess that even if I have one TV able to receive NTSC-M, they are not meant to receive an old standard full analog NTSC signal. I think I read that in the 80's or 90's, they changed slightly the NTSC norm for better color restitution, so European sets must use that one only. And there is no hue correction available) I felt an improvement in gameplay, with less collision bugs, especially with ennemies. Still it's largely playable on a PAL system. Makes me wonder what the technological differences are between a PAL and NTSC system are besides just the way it outputs to the TV if the collision detection is better on an NTSC system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 It's probably just the fact that it's designed to output a different resolution? I'm not expert in programming nor in hardware, but I'm looking for this kind of stuff because I like to know how things works. Could it just be that because of different timing, collision detection may get off by one pixel here and there on PAL version? What about the missing color palette? It doesn't sound like it should be a big deal, but on such limited hardware... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Boxes look great. ..Al When are these babies shipping out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share Posted July 7, 2013 When are these babies shipping out? They will be going out this week. ..Al 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr0st Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Any chance of a list of how many of the boxed 100 are PAL and how many are NTSC? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 ...if the collision detection is better on an NTSC system. It must be a programming issue then. The hardware regarding collision detection is 100% identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Any chance of a list of how many of the boxed 100 are PAL and how many are NTSC? Cheers 0% and 100% However, to any of my good friends across the pond who had the foresight to preorder the NTSC CIB, you can always get a PAL loose copy when it releases and swap cartridges and have a "uniquely yours" PAL CIB set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr0st Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 0% and 100% However, to any of my good friends across the pond who had the foresight to preorder the NTSC CIB, you can always get a PAL loose copy when it releases and swap cartridges and have a "uniquely yours" PAL CIB set. Nope, any orders taken from PAL-Land now have the option to take a PAL cart instead of an NTSC cart if they wish to. So it would be nice to have numbers of how many of the limited edition 100 boxes will officially have PAL carts shipped that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Nope, any orders taken from PAL-Land now have the option to take a PAL cart instead of an NTSC cart if they wish to. So it would be nice to have numbers of how many of the limited edition 100 boxes will officially have PAL carts shipped that way. So that explains the delay in shipping out our CIB orders. It's good to know at least that PAL-landers have an option then. Carry on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitari Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 So, in other words since all the boxes are allocated, there won't be any boxes available for those wanting a PAL cart, for the genuine reason that they live in PAL land??? I think thats a bit unfair. I don't know if it's worth holding out for the possibility of a box to come with a PAL order only to find that all the loose copies have also sold out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Well the thing is that you can order a NTSC copy. I missed the boxed copy, but you could have ordered one when it was available. Sure, you need either to have a NTSC system or accept to deal with odd colors on a PAL system, but the games works anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 8, 2013 Author Share Posted July 8, 2013 I sent email to everyone who lived in Europe or Australia and pre-ordered the boxed copy of the game if they would like a PAL60 version now that it's available. If you didn't see the email, please check your spam folder if you have one. Most people I emailed have responded, so I will be sending out several PAL60 boxed copies. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprybug Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 It must be a programming issue then. The hardware regarding collision detection is 100% identical. I never played it on a PAL system. The programming is the same, so I don't know why it would be any different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I never played it on a PAL system. The programming is the same, so I don't know why it would be any different. So the only differences are the colors then, right? No changed screen size or so? If yes, IF there is any difference, then it must be a side effect of the color changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nognir Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 That's sad to read.. I hoped for a seperate run of a PAL version with boxes I didn't order the game right away, because it was NTSC and it has the wrong colors on my system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 That's sad to read.. I hoped for a seperate run of a PAL version with boxes Don't hold out hope.. derp. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 So the only differences are the colors then, right? No changed screen size or so? If yes, IF there is any difference, then it must be a side effect of the color changes. It run at 60 htz, so it's very likely that the system render the game at NTSC resolution and framerate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nognir Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Don't hold out hope.. ..Al so there won't be a second run? Just to get it right for myself ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 Whoops, I totally got that backwards. LOL. I mean, there may be more boxes coming. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nognir Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 So THAT enlightens my heart! At least a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Teams Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Whoops, I totally got that backwards. LOL. I mean, there may be more boxes coming. ..Al If you're serious, my wallet is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitari Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Me too. I will take a boxed copy of the game. Prefer pal but if what people are saying is true and the only difference is colour then what the hell. My flat screens pick up ntsc would that correct it? I will only buy it with a box though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Leach Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 did the NTSC boxed copies shiP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nognir Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Unfortunately the tv doesn't correct it. Only what matters is the region code of your console. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitari Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Ah ok. Thatll be pal for me then.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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