What's in a double ender

[yllawwally]

What's in a double-ender? Is it two separate boards? How many rom chips are there?

[Dan Iacovelli]

xonox double enders are game carts that games boards on both sides http://atariage.com/...html?LabelID=49

Edited June 18, 2013 by Dan Iacovelli

[Supergun]

What's in a double-ender? Is it two separate boards? How many rom chips are there?

 

To answer your question, as I was curious as well for many years, inside are 2 completely separate boards. They are not joined per say, and are no different than what you would find in the single individual carts.

[yllawwally]

Thanks SuperGun, that's what I was wondering. I would have thought, they would make a custom board, and then only use a single larger rom chip. Maybe they had left over game boards, so they just made a custom cartridge. I had thought they were interesting forever, and finally picked one up at ebay. But didn't want to dismantle it.

[Crazy Climber]

What's in a double-ender? Is it two separate boards? How many rom chips are there?

Either total awesomeness or absolute crap depending on which one

[Cebus Capucinis]

2games1cart

[+Gemintronic]

All that we need to do is make a triple-ender to seal the deal. The first game being "Froggers Adventure in Miss Piggy's Squeeze Box"

[CPUWIZ]

All that we need to do is make a triple-ender to seal the deal. The first game being "Froggers Adventure in Miss Piggy's Squeeze Box"

 

My wife made a quadruple ender of all the Bomb games once.

[+Gemintronic]

Since I don't see the eeprom in Melody boards being fully accessible to batari BASIC developers soon I have an idea:

 

2 Games attached together with 32k boards. When the first quest is complete you turn the cart over and the Savekey/AtariVox loads your game data.

 

BAM! Xonox would have cleaned up with this idea!

Richter:

Double-ender. You don’t belong in this world!

Dracula:

It was not by Tramiels hand I was once again given flash. I was programmed here by humans who wished to pay me tribute!

Richter:

Tribute!? You steal donor carts, and make them your slaves!

Dracula:

Perhaps the same could be said of all reproductions…

Richter:

Your words are as empty as your gameplay! Mankind ill needs a savekey such as you!

Dracula:

What is in a Double-ender? A miserable little pile of discrete parts. But enough talk… Have at you!

[Jinks]

If ya find one suspect your wifes with another woman..

[+Omegamatrix]

My wife made a quadruple ender of all the Bomb games once.

 

I thought that was Shawn's fantastic contraption. Were they one and the same?

[CPUWIZ]

I thought that was Shawn's fantastic contraption. Were they one and the same?

 

No, that was not Shawn's, it was ours.

 

http://atariage.com/...m/#entry2594362

 

I may have a picture of it on one of my old HDD's.

 

EDIT: I remember it being so heavy, that my Jr. had to be held down by extra weight, or it would topple. LOL

[Crazy Climber]

I remember that bomb cart, lol

[yllawwally]

Does anyone know why they decided to do double-enders? Did they just have left over circuit boards, and decide they could use these games we couldn't sell by putting them together in a new shell.

[Supergun]

Does anyone know why they decided to do double-enders? Did they just have left over circuit boards, and decide they could use these games we couldn't sell by putting them together in a new shell.

 

Well, from my personal experience, I never even knew that "single enders" even existed until later in life!

Allow me to explain.

 

I remember the day vividly. It was June of 1983. I was out shopping with my parents and I happened to notice a display at one of the stores selling Atari cartridges. One of them got my attention because the box art looked very odd to me. It had a huge dividing line separating two completely different art drawings depicting two completely different themes. Both of them looked super cool to me and so I grabbed the box and immediately turned it around to look for screenshots! I was firstly blown away at the graphic detail in the shots, I mean they were excellent compared to most Atari graphics, and I was baffled by them being so completely different? Only then did I start to actually read and discovered that it was a "double ender" game cartridge by some company XONOX that I had never heard of. Spikes Peak & Ghost Manor! The idea of getting two games for the price of one just blew me away! And I guess using that logic, it was a good selling point for my parents as I was able to get them to buy me the game! (something that was cherished when I was a kid because other then birthdays and Christmas gifts, Atari carts were expensive and generally I had to save up and buy them myself.

 

Anyhow, I played the hell out of both of those games. I mean, for Atari games they not only had great graphics, but they were very long games with multiple screens and lots of action. They were also a little bit on the difficult side, which again served to increase their replay value. Anyhow, I never saw another Xonox game anywhere else again until several years later, just after the market crashed, when I started buying cartridges from anyone and everyone at school. And it would not be until the mid 90's, with the bringing about of the internet and the newsgroups that I came to discover that the company also made single ender cartridges. (which baffled me as well because I was like why? I mean the very name of the company, and the very pitch of their marketing is this two for one thing, so why the heck would they make singles, and who the hell would buy them?

 

Well, that's my fun little memory there for you regarding double enders. Oh and btw, in case some people here are wondering how I remember that it was June of 1983? It's because on the very same day my parents bought me that game, which I would not stop playing from the minute I got home, we all went as a family to go see War Games at the movie theater which had just been released.

[Crazy Climber]

Does anyone know why they decided to do double-enders? Did they just have left over circuit boards, and decide they could use these games we couldn't sell by putting them together in a new shell.

Xonox was made by K-tel and K-tel is the king of putting a bunch of shit all in one. They did it with music, why not Atari right? If they had the know how to put 20 games on a cart they probably would have

Edited June 20, 2013 by Crazy Climber

[high voltage]

Well, from my personal experience, I never even knew that "single enders" even existed until later in life!

Allow me to explain.

 

I remember the day vividly. It was June of 1983. I was out shopping with my parents and I happened to notice a display at one of the stores selling Atari cartridges. One of them got my attention because the box art looked very odd to me. It had a huge dividing line separating two completely different art drawings depicting two completely different themes. Both of them looked super cool to me and so I grabbed the box and immediately turned it around to look for screenshots! I was firstly blown away at the graphic detail in the shots, I mean they were excellent compared to most Atari graphics, and I was baffled by them being so completely different? Only then did I start to actually read and discovered that it was a "double ender" game cartridge by some company XONOX that I had never heard of. Spikes Peak & Ghost Manor! The idea of getting two games for the price of one just blew me away! And I guess using that logic, it was a good selling point for my parents as I was able to get them to buy me the game! (something that was cherished when I was a kid because other then birthdays and Christmas gifts, Atari carts were expensive and generally I had to save up and buy them myself.

 

Anyhow, I played the hell out of both of those games. I mean, for Atari games they not only had great graphics, but they were very long games with multiple screens and lots of action. They were also a little bit on the difficult side, which again served to increase their replay value. Anyhow, I never saw another Xonox game anywhere else again until several years later, just after the market crashed, when I started buying cartridges from anyone and everyone at school. And it would not be until the mid 90's, with the bringing about of the internet and the newsgroups that I came to discover that the company also made single ender cartridges. (which baffled me as well because I was like why? I mean the very name of the company, and the very pitch of their marketing is this two for one thing, so why the heck would they make singles, and who the hell would buy them?

 

Well, that's my fun little memory there for you regarding double enders. Oh and btw, in case some people here are wondering how I remember that it was June of 1983? It's because on the very same day my parents bought me that game, which I would not stop playing from the minute I got home, we all went as a family to go see War Games at the movie theater which had just been released.

 

I love the Double-enders.

Ghost Manor is an excellent game, as you said great graphics, great game play, and to get to kill Dracula. Awesome

Spike's Peak, quite difficult, reaching that mountain top was almost like I did the mountain climbing myself

 

Sir Lancelot. Very good Joust clone, with the added feature save the princess.

Robin Hood, graphically a mess, but good game for me anyway. Again, a rescue the girl game. Tops

 

Chuck Norris/Kung Fu, a bit disappointing but it was played

Artillery Duel shoot each other, good 2 player game

 

Tomarc, awful control method, worst game of the lot

Motocross Racer, having played it yet

[Dan Iacovelli]

I happen to have rare one chuck norris/ghost manner strange thing, the label came off and it had a label for ghost manner/spikes peak

Edited June 20, 2013 by Dan Iacovelli

[high voltage]

Wow, maybe a late release?

 

For once, foreign releases of Xonox have the better packaging

 

Edited June 20, 2013 by high voltage

[Dan Iacovelli]

my chuck norris/ghost manner looks like the one listed on atari age

the ghost manner/ spkes peak label also looks like the one on atri age (except there are screws in it)

[Crazy Climber]

my chuck norris/ghost manner looks like the one listed on atari age

the ghost manner/ spkes peak label also looks like the one on atri age (except there are screws in it)

YES! People have also found Spidermaze games that had a Condor Attack label underneath (both of those games were also made by K-tel)