mrmovieprop Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Okay why include all those arguable "expansion system" games but not slow and fast steering armor battle? those have changes to the physical ROM? is that really any different from world class track meet vs stadium events on the NES? What about the math fun rom variation? that is definately affecting game play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freewheel Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Okay why include all those arguable "expansion system" games but not slow and fast steering armor battle? those have changes to the physical ROM? is that really any different from world class track meet vs stadium events on the NES? What about the math fun rom variation? that is definately affecting game play. Depends on what you collect. Differently named games tend to .. well show up in lists as different names. Even if they're basically the same game. Look at the 2600 scene - do you include Sears clones as unique titles, or not? Even though they're generally the exact same game? Depends on the collector. One thing about INTV that irritates me is how many ROM variants exist that are impossible to determine without a dump (or playing the game in many cases). So what do you do? Put a sticker on the cart to identify it? Keep it in a labelled bag? And I won't even get into the Lock n Chase 8k unicorn. I've play-tested dozens upon dozens of Lock n Chase carts over the years and even the newest INTV Corp release doesn't seem to be the mythical 8k version. But... expansion system games are unarguably *different games*. So I don't see the comparison. Your question is still valid though. I guess the answer is that a) most people don't care about these things and b) it's impossible to distinguish them. However - variants are why the 125 list is actually closer to 500, once you include ROM and packaging variations. Some collect to the former, some collect to the latter. Just an individual choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre81 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 There will never be a definite list for any system. This is cmarts list, if you want to make one for yourself that's fine. Some collect the Sears releases, some not. Some want the Mattel release, others the Intellivision Inc. Some collect homebrews, others not. Some collect international releases, others not. I collect all the European releases but not the Digiplay or Bandai. Others spend $100 for a Digiplay release but don't care about the European releases. Collect what you want and stop taking such a list too serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freewheel Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I think people react to this one so strongly because there's a pretty strong consensus in the community of what makes up "the 125". Most of us follow it due to its provenance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) The short answer behind the 125 is that it includes unique titles released from inception (Mattel) through the next few eras (Intellivision Inc & INTV Corp) and includes 3rd party releases (Activision, Imagic, Parker Bros, Colleco, Sega, etc). ECS games were included because they were produced by Mattel for the Intellivision and are meant to utilize new hardware in addition to (not in place of) the original consoles. Releases by Sears, Intellivision Inc, CBS, Digiplay, Bandai, etc are not included because they never included any unique new titles. Same for ROM variants; it's the same title, just slightly upgraded. Tutankham and Super Cobra were included because, despite not being released in the USA, they fit in well with the other Parker Brothers games and are compatible with the original hardware. Plus, there are only two of them and most Intellivision collectors couldn't imagine calling a collection 'complete' without these two great games. Off the top of my head I can't think of any other unique games released outside of the US. Homebrews would theoretically be included since they are essentially new and/or previously unreleased titles produced by modern 3rd party entities, but there was such a long gap since the last round of releases that we decided to just start a new list. Edited September 18, 2014 by JasonlikesINTV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freewheel Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Where were Tutankham and Super Cobra released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Where were Tutankham and Super Cobra released? Europe. Not sure which countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freewheel Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Europe. Not sure which countries. Thanks I'm always on the prowl for anything that came out in Canada but not the US (ie: Zellers 2600), or at least more common up here. There's not much we have an edge on when it comes to consumer products and certainly not in this business. But now I know something to get my Euro buds to keep an eye out for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignorama Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Can somebody tell me what the barcode of Spiker is? It would be very helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intymike Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Can somebody tell me what the barcode of Spiker is? It would be very helpful 0 18571 09102 0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBuff Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Trivia: The Digital Press Collector's Guide (2003 or so) also came up with 125 unique titles for a complete set like cmart did. I *think* Sean Kelly did the Intellivision section back then - have to verify this when at home. Unfortunately Joe Santulli never cared for number 8 since then but number 7 is still THE bible for all 8-bit stuff. I rarely come across something that isn't listed there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 Yep I'm pretty sure it was Sean that did the Inty section. My DP guide is nicely dog eared as well, that was certainly a great resource for starting my addiction. The bottom line here is the 125 is the number of unique commercially released games during the original run of the Intellivision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intymike Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Trivia: The Digital Press Collector's Guide (2003 or so) also came up with 125 unique titles for a complete set like cmart did. I *think* Sean Kelly did the Intellivision section back then - have to verify this when at home. Unfortunately Joe Santulli never cared for number 8 since then but number 7 is still THE bible for all 8-bit stuff. I rarely come across something that isn't listed there. I would say that the Blue Sky Rangers had this number first on their website back in the late 90s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freewheel Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I would say that the Blue Sky Rangers had this number first on their website back in the late 90s. They did, and everyone has copied it since then. Or came to the same conclusion independently. It's a very well-agreed upon number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_intv Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Where were Tutankham and Super Cobra released?not only Europe but also Canada! I had Super Cobra and a friend had Tutankham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 not only Europe but also Canada! I had Super Cobra and a friend had Tutankham. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I never knew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freewheel Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Nor did I, because I lived in the middle of nowhere in the 80s. Which is a big part of why I knew a lot more Commodore families - when you can only find a dozen or 2 games in the local stores, copying floppies brought in from the "big city" means you have access to a LOT more games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 This doesn't happen to me very often these days, but I upgraded one of my core 125 game boxes today Actually, 3 games! Got some really nice CIB upgrades for MLB, NASL Soccer, and NHL Hockey (NHL was the main one that needed it). I suppose I was never in much of a hurry to upgrade sports titles. Now it's time to find the next worst in my collection and get back to the hunt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 This doesn't happen to me very often these days, but I upgraded one of my core 125 game boxes today Actually, 3 games! Got some really nice CIB upgrades for MLB, NASL Soccer, and NHL Hockey (NHL was the main one that needed it). I suppose I was never in much of a hurry to upgrade sports titles. Now it's time to find the next worst in my collection and get back to the hunt Excellent! Always fun to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignorama Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) What do you think about upgrading this check list with prices? I think it would be very helpful for new collectors and very interessting for experienced collectors as well to see how much your collection would cost today. Of course prices do change from time to time, so this is never a final price list, but if we do this once a year we do have actual prices and can watch how the prices fall or raise. At least I think its pretty interessting. Edit: To give an example for a extreme change: Worm Whomper was used to be a 80-110$ title 2 years ago. If you got it below that it was a nice price, even in auctions. Today you dont really have to pay much more than 50$. Edited April 20, 2015 by Ignorama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Worm Whomper was used to be a 80-110$ title 2 years ago. If you got it below that it was a nice price, even in auctions. Today you dont really have to pay much more than 50$. Now I'm never letting them go! Time for me to start stocking up again All the Worm Whompers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignorama Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 You wont get my copy By the way (even if its not exactly the topic), what 4 games you are still missing? I am missing also 4 (actually ma shelf says 6, but when Scalpels games arrive I am at 121) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) I still need (for the 125): Spiker (need everything) Stadium Mud Buggies (need box and manual - I have repros of both) LF2 (need box and manual - I have repros of both) Super Cobra (I'm only missing the manual) So technically I'm 124 Silver Member Edited April 20, 2015 by JasonlikesINTV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy62 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Congrats Jason you are so close! If I could help you out with anything I would in a second. Your great sense of humor and posts are well received and enjoyed by, I assume everyone in here.As usual it is mostly all about that damn Spiker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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