GDMike Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) Words are freeeee. And maybe someone here can answer. Not getting answers. Police man on duty. Lol Edited October 28, 2020 by GDMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyDean Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I was looking at the pictures of the card that farmer potato linked on ebay. When viewing the picture of the back, I see that the wires are routed differently than mine, which is a bummer as one of mine was dislodged in storage and I put it back where I reasoned it should go, and it hangs at the boot screen. Was there a design change? Curious if a couple of other folks have the pfm+ and would be willing to show closeups of the back of there units. Maybe in the Myarc repair thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneMultitasker Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, RickyDean said: I was looking at the pictures of the card that farmer potato linked on ebay. When viewing the picture of the back, I see that the wires are routed differently than mine, which is a bummer as one of mine was dislodged in storage and I put it back where I reasoned it should go, and it hangs at the boot screen. Was there a design change? Curious if a couple of other folks have the pfm+ and would be willing to show closeups of the back of there units. Maybe in the Myarc repair thread? There are variants. The one in the ebay pic is a 256K variety, 2x 128K atmel 29c020. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I thought that the soldered job was kinda poor too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneMultitasker Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, GDMike said: I thought that the soldered job was kinda poor too Yea, if that was one of my early ones (versus someone else) I was just learning back then. Not to say I'm an expert now by any means but it was before we were doing commercial hand-soldering. The wires were installed that way on purpose for a few reasons. There were only two of us that did Myarc work. And I cannot tell if my date/initials are for the update or for a repair. No repair records exist from those years. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 52 minutes ago, InsaneMultitasker said: Yea, if that was one of my early ones (versus someone else) I was just learning back then. Not to say I'm an expert now by any means but it was before we were doing commercial hand-soldering. The wires were installed that way on purpose for a few reasons. There were only two of us that did Myarc work. And I cannot tell if my date/initials are for the update or for a repair. No repair records exist from those years. Hmmm come to think about it, I think my soldering jobs were similar back in the 80s ....yup 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneMultitasker Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, GDMike said: Hmmm come to think about it, I think my soldering jobs were similar back in the 80s ....yup Only a few years ago, right? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOME AUTOMATION Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 ...Yes I know, that is so! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I see the Geneve on eBay went for 560$... Wasn´t it over 1.000$ last days ? https://www.ebay.com/itm/124398246519 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrax27407 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 It costs $0 in MAME ? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FarmerPotato Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, Schmitzi said: I see the Geneve on eBay went for 560$... Wasn´t it over 1.000$ last days ? https://www.ebay.com/itm/124398246519 Yes, but on bid history you can see that the top two bidders at $1000 and $1025 were cancelled. So it fell to $390, until the last ten seconds. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Auctions sheeeesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift838 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 11 hours ago, FarmerPotato said: Yes, but on bid history you can see that the top two bidders at $1000 and $1025 were cancelled. So it fell to $390, until the last ten seconds. i tried the last 10 seconds! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+acadiel Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 23 hours ago, FarmerPotato said: Yes, but on bid history you can see that the top two bidders at $1000 and $1025 were cancelled. So it fell to $390, until the last ten seconds. Looking at a quantity of bids - Yahoo Auctions in Japan puts this (this is a direct screen cap from an item I was looking at...) Maybe it's just the translation software, but, wow.... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift838 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Maybe it's me, but I think this is a tad over priced! HERE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, Shift838 said: Maybe it's me, but I think this is a tad over priced! HERE I respect his ambition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Get a good look at that stuff, ere it be the last time ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOME AUTOMATION Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 37 minutes ago, OLD CS1 said: Get a good look at that stuff, ere it be the last time ever seen. Yup, that's why on the super rare stuff you have to "LIBERATE" the images from Ebay and post them here for safe keeping... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOME AUTOMATION Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 See thru clothing, on AtariAge ...Oh my!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 WOW !! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 It is serial number 1 if nobody caught that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I was too beeezy looking through it... Good eyeball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 24 minutes ago, BeeryMiller said: It is serial number 1 if nobody caught that. Actually, there is no serial number on the case. The only reference to one is on the presentation tag, which is not attached to the case. Based on that tag, the case was also probably presented as a gag. The "No-Lockup Home Computer" makes sense in that context, as it is not possible for the empty case to lock up (and based on the test sheet on the 99/4 in the auction, lockups were common problems). The machine in the auction is NOT a Dimension of any kind. It is a TI-99/4 motherboard in a Dimension case. See the product tag on the bottom (Serial Number 739, which puts it in the same range as the engineering prototype that someone was trying to sell earlier this year). It also includes the test sheet for the machine, which shows it was built in July of 1979 (the year isn't on the sheet, but the chips on the board will confirm the year). I have brought this to the seller's attention. There are a lot of signs to show that it isn't a Dimension. The side port shows resistors behind the copper protective fingers--on a Dimension mother board, thee are no components in this area. The channel selection slide switch (3-4) on the left hand side of the console is completely missing. It has a Joystick connector on the left side--a Dimension expects the handheld units and has no standard Joystick connector. The video connector is a standard five-pin DIN connector, but that is where the Dimension has the video modulator connection. The second video connector opening (for a monitor) is completely blocked by the motherboard shield. The connection point for the IR receiver is blocked by the metal shield. The secondary expansion port a the back of the console is not present (and does not exist on standard 99/4 boards but is present on all Dimension boards). The mother board is a single board in this machine--not a mother board with a processor and component daughter board as would be found in a Dimension. It has a standard TI power plug connection. The internal power supplies on the Dimension prototypes had a cable leading out that hole, connected directly to the external power supply--no connector is present. The IR handset and receiver are nice--but I seriously doubt anyone will buy that lot for anything close to the price he's asking. I made a best offer for approximately the real value of the lot and was rebuffed by the automatic rejection method on eBay. Just because only one of something survives does not make it extremely valuable--the size of the market (and the ability of that market's collectors to pay) determines value, something he hasn't quite internalized yet, based on the price he wants. The complete Dimension 4 I have cost barely more than a tenth of his asking price in open auction earlier this year. The complete board set I have for one cost me the princely sum of $20, again, in open auction. These are the only Dimension 4 items in the wild outside of the items he has here. I wish him luck on his attempted sale, but I am pretty sure he has completely misjudged the ability to pay and the desire of the community for these items. The most expensive TI-99 related prototype item ever sold went for about $3,500, and it was a complete 99/8 with functional p-Code components. That has a lot more community interest, as it can actually be used. The IR set can only be used with a Dimension--and the only Dimension owner out there (me) isn't going to bite at anything near his price. Maybe some collector will want to buy it and disappear it into a collection of things he can't use, but not at that price. . . 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Thank you ? for the insight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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