+mizapf Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Ah, OK, I did not think about the SAY and SPGET subprograms that are only available in Extended Basic. There is some pretty important information in there, concerning the pauses between words, and which IIRC were not included in the Extended Basic manuals. Since the cartridge only allows for accessing the speech vocabulary, there is no use for international Speech Editor cartridges - unless you had an expansion module plugged into the synthesizer itself. I'd also be interested in LPC codings of German sounds like "ä", "ö", "ü", both "ch" variants, "l", and "r". The problem is that without samples, you'd have to modify existing phonemes to sound alike; this should be similarly difficult like explaining them to an English-speaking person who has never heard them before (like "ü is like English ee with rounded lips"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 To get the German vowel sounds in English, you can take the word butte to get the German "ü" sound, colonel or kernel to get the "ö" sound, and the "ä" sound is all over the place in English. Obviously, the spelling is nowhere near what one would expect in German for those vowel sounds--but the output is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+acadiel Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Someone is smoking something. https://www.ebay.com/itm/301841222858 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift838 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Here's a Wico Atari command center adapter. not a bad price either. HERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Someone is smoking something. https://www.ebay.com/itm/301841222858 Of course. This is the happiest seller ever :-D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 And he's one of eBay's more notorious sellers of overpriced material. Amazing what one can do with a cartridge that he probably bought at an already hyper-inflated price. He had a boxed /4A on there last year sometime for something like $1500 in one of those custom Lucite grading shells he uses. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 you can take the word butte to get the German "ü" sound Butte like below? I learned about that word in my last vacation where I shot this picture; but isn't it pronounced /bju:t/ (or as you would write, "byoot")? Still a bit far from "ü". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 it is actually closer to the "beaut" of beautiful, Michael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 The Wüste is not übel (=nice pic) Is there a nice Ü in "bureaucracy" maybe ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Gallagher on Language 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeBo Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Gallagher on Language Too funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Bureaucracy is another good one with the Ü sound in it. . .we have these sounds all over the place in English, but we don't have any consistent way to spell the sounds we use. I read somewhere that there are only 40 distinct sounds used in English, but there are over 5,000 ways to spell them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeBo Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Bureaucracy is another good one with the Ü sound in it. . .we have these sounds all over the place in English, but we don't have any consistent way to spell the sounds we use. I read somewhere that there are only 40 distinct sounds used in English, but there are over 5,000 ways to spell them. Vowels are easy...there are always english sounds that you can "fake" into working for nearly any language...consonants are another matter entirely. English is pretty unimaginative when it come to consonant sounds, so there is nothing that comes close to the french "R" or german "CHT". I love playing with phonemes, but finally gave up trying to recreate these two sounds accurately with a TI Speech synth. if anyone has had success please share you method!! There's gotta be a way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKarith Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 The TMS 5220 is capable of making fair approximations of the phonemes in question. The question is whether it has sufficient means to produce the sound. Remember that the Speak & Spell would say a word like echo as "EH-Oh", despite the chip being quite able to make the sound desired. The chip isn't incapable of making the sound but the chip doesn't program itself. It needs a ROM and some direction. And the lowly Speak & Spell doesn't have the means to provide the speech data needed to make a better "EKoh". The best you're going to get is basically 8 bit audio quality, but how good that audio quality is will depend on how low of a level you're willing to program the chip, and how much memory you're willing to devote to making it sound the way you want it to sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 ... I found this, maybe helps TMS5220C (like 5200 in 99-4 speech) manual.pdf TMS5220.PDF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift838 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Looks like a fully loaded PEB with PCode card. HERE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 It wrote him some questions, pressed <send>, came back, and it was gone..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 It looks like the disk controller may have been a Myarc floppy controller too. . .that case looks suspiciously like the plastic ones they used. Somebody got a really good deal in any event! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 It wrote him some questions, pressed <send>, came back, and it was gone..... Damn, that sucks. That was a prime example of the old addage, "Ya snooze, ya lose". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift838 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Niether one of my Myarc FDC look like that shell from what i can see in the picture. All my TI FDC do though, even down to the blue connector for the drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyDean Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Niether one of my Myarc FDC look like that shell from what i can see in the picture. All my TI FDC do though, even down to the blue connector for the drives. It was from my perspective a Ti Disk card(maybe 80 track mod?), P-Code card, RS232 card, Flex interface card, and 2( probably DSDD TEAC drives from a Kaypro II). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 The seller could not identify that cards, he told me that he does not know much about. And then it was gone One day, we will know, I am sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kl99 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 the photos from that peb look funny, handling the peb like a tower. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Yes, I prefer that too, is much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 the photos from that peb look funny, handling the peb like a tower. Yes, I prefer that too, is much better. I prefer the PEB in a tower configuration myself. I originally did it because of a lack of space, but it grows on one rather quickly. There is also a big plus, you can read the HxC's display in the proper orientation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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