Jinks Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) Wow awesome work!! Too bad no one loves moto psycho. . As its a more updated pp2 with hills and whatnot.. nostalgia goggles I guess? Edited April 12, 2014 by Jinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Curious...Any chance the road signs could be updated as well? Oh, this definitely deserves its own thread at this point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) Its really great the 7800 is getting attention from a whole team of very intelligent and talented people.. its too bad it wasnt 30 years ago you guys together working full time on this I think ya coulda taken down the big N and added 6 zeros to the end of your profits from today's development. Its mind blowing checking this stuff out. Every day something completely unexpected and amazing!! Edited April 12, 2014 by Jinks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMos3 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) Too bad no one loves moto psycho. . As its a more updated pp2 with hills and whatnot.. nostalgia goggles I guess? I love Motor Psycho. However, it's one of those games no longer work when you change something. I have a list of games that I would LOVE to hack, if someone can figure out how to make 'em work. (Fatal Run, Rampage, etc.) In fact, I could update Rampage to satisfy all my cravings for that game (except adding en ending). Perhaps someone could take a look at it to see what needs changed to make it work after being hacked. I'd love to update the buildings, dust cloud, and most of all... the monsters (with the ones PAC-MAN RED created). Curious...Any chance the road signs could be updated as well? Sure can. I like the Atari Fuji, but if you have a better idea, I'm all ears. Note: I believe the colors of the signs are shared with opponent cars, although I haven't bothered to confirm that yet. Edited April 13, 2014 by KevinMos3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treismac Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Not to hijack the thread, but we are still missing some classics like: Missile Command... You can stop right there! It is criminal that the 7800 didn't get a port of this classic. Hell, the XE had the game built-in. Also, I long for the day that somebody makes a 7800 Paperboy that blows the substandard NES and SMS ports away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Sure can. I like the Atari Fuji, but if you have a better idea, I'm all ears. Long signs (Although presumed "impossible"): Improved turn sign (If possible): Perhaps change blimp to plane - And tweak the sign: And now to officially earn a "flipped bird"... Start: Checkpoint: Let the obscenities commence *goes hides* 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I'd like to see a port of the Namco game "Mappy" ... seems it's already been discussed on the 8-bit forum, and I decided to do my own rendition of the Mappy theme, using 3-channel POKEY in 16-bit mode. It's here (in both 7800 binary and mp3 format): http://atariage.com/forums/topic/222932-mappy-on-our-8-bit/?do=findComment&comment=2967175 If this game ever gets past planning, I want so badly to do the music for this. Pleeeeease. Addictive game, and the music just gets in your head. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I love what you did with the music. If done on the 7800 with XM, you could use POKEY for the music and TIA for the sound effects. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 That was my idea too ... there are lots of neat TIA waveforms for sound effects like when you open the flashing doors to set off the alarms, or when you drop the bell on the cats in the later levels. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I'll make you a deal... If you mock up the rest of the car sprites, I'll put 'em in the game (160A mode). Here's the 1st one for you: Pole Postion (Hack).png Pole Postion II (Hack).a78 I may use a different blue than in this example rom. It was just for testing. I kinda like $83 like in this screenshot: Pole Postion II (Hack).png Thank you Kevin, you're very kind. I made these sprites for my curiosity and then I shared to show the 7800 graphic capabilities in PP2. I did not think the 160A mode could be of interest but I'm glad you liked it (at least until one of our programmers will want to increase the number of colors ). In truth, I had added the new sprite in the game but I lost my motivation when I saw that the car and the explosion share the same colors. However the result looks good, and I like the blue car. I will make other sprites (lateral views) in the next days. P.S. I am undecided about the color blue for the car, increasing the contrast between white and blue it seems more evident the reduced number of colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 PP2-7-11.PNG PP2-DAY.PNG PP2-DD.PNG PP2-NAM.PNG PP2-PP2.PNG PP2-TANG.PNG Long signs (Although presumed "impossible"): PP2-NAML.PNG PP2-ATARI.PNG Improved turn sign (If possible): PP2-TURN.PNG Perhaps change blimp to plane - And tweak the sign: PP2-SIGN1.PNGPP2-SIGN2.PNG And now to officially earn a "flipped bird"... Start: PP2-START.PNG Checkpoint: PP2-CPOINT.PNG Let the obscenities commence *goes hides* Robert, in the code there is the graphics for only one road sign. P.S. The Atari arcade version has the blimp! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Robert, in the code there is the graphics for only one road sign. P.S. The Atari arcade version has the blimp! Was going to state/reason that Blimp = PAL / Plane = NTSC...But... Considering there's only one sign in the game, I'm sure the likelihood of having a blimp and plane is nil. Wow, all those signs in the Arcade, and down to only one in the port...Thought they were just saving time by having different colors of the same one but could be changed to different things; however, in retrospect I guess that was a silly notion...darn it.....Oh, well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Was going to state/reason that Blimp = PAL / Plane = NTSC...But... PP2-Blimp.PNG Considering there's only one sign in the game, I'm sure the likelihood of having a blimp and plane is nil. ...but we can make 2 versions: blimp and plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMos3 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) How about some pokey sound for Mario Brothers? As an incentive, I touched up some of the sprites and colors. This is about as close to the arcade as I could get (for Mario) with the current single high sprites. The red of the title screen logo was brightened Mario and Luigi colors touched up The Fireflies got redrawn Added shading to the coins Enlarged the fireballs Brightened the floor by one shade Other minor sprite tweaks Mario.a78 Edited April 14, 2014 by KevinMos3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 AWESOME...You hit 2 of 3 biggest complaints I have with Mario Bros. graphics on the 7800. 1. Coins - lack of shading 2. Mario and Luigi palette The one that's left: 3 Turtle Design... Even the NES has this thin squashed version that did however, get a proper design with the Japanese remake "Kaettekita Mario Bros." "Fat" turtles would be a beautiful thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 ...incredible, I had started to look at this ... Thanks for sharing Kevin! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMos3 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) The one that's left: Turtle Design... Even the NES has this thin squashed version that did however, get a proper design with the Japanese remake "Kaettekita Mario Bros." "Fat" turtles would be a beautiful thing. The turtles can be up to 11 pixels wide, which leaves plenty of room for improvement. I started working on the turtles, but ran out of time for now. If anyone would like to draw turtle sprites that fit those constraints, I'd be happy to put them in. Also, I didn't have access to the arcade version when I was working on this, so I went off of the NES version. After seeing some arcade enemies, I need to redo the firefly and crab too. Edited April 14, 2014 by KevinMos3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) How about some pokey sound for Mario Brothers? As an incentive, I touched up some of the sprites and colors. This is about as close to the arcade as I could get (for Mario) with the current single high sprites. The red of the title screen logo was brightened Mario and Luigi colors touched up The Fireflies got redrawn Added shading to the coins Enlarged the fireballs Brightened the floor by one shade Other minor sprite tweaks Mario_00.png Mario_01.png Mario.a78 Suppose I'd better get the opening music and jingle ready now. Actually, might try playing around with hi-pass filters and such, to see if I can imitate the timbre of the original arcade game music. Edited April 14, 2014 by Synthpopalooza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Suppose I'd better get the opening music and jingle ready now. I suppose with all this new 7800 development I may as well sell a kidney to finance it all.. You guys are on fire!! Totally rad dudes!! (One of my fav. 80's expressions) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMos3 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I'm getting there... Still got more animations to do on the turtle and crab, but the basic walk is done. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMos3 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Here's what I've got so far. The turtle is done. The crab needs finished. I haven't checked the Slipice to see if he's aligned correctly, but I made him fatter. If anyone has additional sprites or better sprites than what I've done so far, feel free to share and I'll put em in. Mario test.a78 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Kevin,this is Mario Bros. Please do not rush! P.S.take a look at the fireballs on the Atari XE version. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMos3 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Shellcreepers done. Sidesteppers done. Fighterflies done. Slipice done. This is just my interpretation of the arcade sprites. I'm open to using better sprites from other ppl. Marco, I like your turtle. If you make a complete set, I'll probably use it instead of mine... or I could do an alternate version if you prefer. The crabs (and any other sprites) are open for improvement. I'm just done with "my" interpretations. I haven't checked out the XE fireball yet. I haven't looked at the arcade fireball yet either. Mario_h1.a78 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Super blown away and impressed, Kevin...Those are a lot of fantastic updates in such a small span of time. THANK YOU! Absolutely, take your time with this - No rush. Awesome work so far though...Wow! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Oberhäuser Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 No pressure here 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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