luckybuck Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) Hello together! There are some artifacts... Cartridge: CXL4017 Pascal As far as I know, this cart was announced, but never released. Same seems true for: CX8109 Pascal CX8110 Pascal Database CX8115 Pascal-Native Code CX8116 Pascal-Linker Does anyone know more? Any hint to dig further? The APX-20102 version is known and not of interest here. Best regards and many thanks in advance Edited October 31, 2013 by luckybuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hunmanik Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 announced when/where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 Michael, is that you? Well, I have it from an Atari list, but never seen it. Only the APX-version. Best regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Is the list on the Net? Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Here is an article about it and why it never appeared. http://www.cyberroach.com/analog/an11/pascal.htm Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 Dear Allan! Thank you very much! :-) Yes, I think it was in the Atari FAQ. But with the CX-numbers you should find it quick. Thank you for the article, will read it :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 Thank you Allan, you helped me a lot! Therefore, the Fortran 77 language shouldn't be asked for either... Best regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) I read: In March, 1982, after many promises and much delay, ATARI quietly released their ATARI PASCAL Language System. However, they didn’t release it through the expected channels. PASCAL was released through the ATARI Program Exchange as unsupported software. Adding to that disappointment, it required two ATARI 810 disk drives. ATARI also said that the program “was not suited for learning PASCAL or the ATARI 800 computer.” Furthermore, the absence of a compatible assembler (one which generates relocatable code), limited debugging tools, and incomplete documentation are considered to have reduced the usefulness of ATARI’s PASCAL. Finally, only part of the PASCAL language system was released. Since then, almost nothing has been said by ATARI or anyone else about the product. It's released as unsupported software through non-expected channels. So it exists somewhere in any form. Edited November 4, 2013 by TXG/MNX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 "PASCAL was released through the ATARI Program Exchange (APX) as unsupported software." The APX version we have complete with manual, but the software is only 2 disks, not 4! Therefore, if a developer of Atari Pascal reads this, there might be chance... Best regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Hello together! There are some artifacts... Cartridge: CXL4017 Pascal Interesting. That number ended up being reused for the Demo cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 No, Atari Store Demo Cartridge has CXL4019! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 No, Atari Store Demo Cartridge has CXL4019! Your right, I was looking at a bad list. What was assigned to 4019 then? I never saw PASCAL listed on any cartridge list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 Hi Tempest! As I have written: The "Atari Store Demo Cartridge" Atari Store Demo Cartridge CXL4019.bin Best regards Just a suggestion: Looking at "right" lists, the real McCoy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Hi Tempest! As I have written: The "Atari Store Demo Cartridge" Sorry, typo on my part. I meant "what was assigned to 4017?" Was it always PASCAL or did PASCAL take the place of something else? I ask because I don't recall seeing PASCAL on any old lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 Got it from here: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/118475-atari-software-master-list/ Pascal ist missing, because it was never released. But the "real" challenge is this here: Complete list of the Atari Educational System Lesson Cassettes sets Atari made: 17 parts, each many cassettes! http://www.atarimuseum.com/atarieducation/education-menu/edu-menu.htm http://www.atarisource.com/collection.htm U.S. History CX6001 U.S. Government CX6002 Supervisory Skills CX6003 World History (Western) CX6004 Basic Sociology CX6005 Counseling Procedures CX6006 (X) Principles of Accounting CX6007 (X) Physics CX6008 ; 4 Cassettes, each 2 sides Great Classics CX6009 Business Communications CX6010 Basic Psychology CX6011 Effective Writing CX6012 Auto Mechanics CX6013 Principles of Economics CX6014 Spelling CX6015 Basic Electricity CX6016 Basic Algebra CX6017 The (X) ones we do have... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 I've got a few of those (complete in box): U.S. History U.S. Government World History Physics I Effective Writing Principles of Economics Spelling Basic Algebra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 Wow! That is great! :-))) Those ones are missing. We plan to make a chapter: Voice & Data on: http://atariwiki.de/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Articles with this here: What do think, is a digitizing of your data possible? I mean, it is a little step for you, but a giant leap for the Atari community... Best regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 I'm not sure how I'd go about doing that on my current setup, but I suppose I could always send it to someone to record. Preferably someone in the US (shipping these overseas would be pricey). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 That would be marvelous! :-))) But we should synchronize ourself, so that the work has just to be done once. These 2: (X) Principles of Accounting CX6007 (X) Physics CX6008 ; 4 Cassettes, each 2 sides we already have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 Cartridge (typ 400/800) CXL4001 Educational System CXL4002 Basic CXL4003 Assembler Editor CXL4004 Basketball CXL4005 Video Easel CXL4006 Super Breakout CXL4007 Music Composer CXL4008 Space Invaders CXL4009 Computer Chess CXL4010 3-D Tic-Tac-Toe CXL4011 Star Riders CXL4012 Missile Command CXL4013 Asteroids CXL4014 Mailing List CXL4015 Telelink I CXL4016 Telelink II CXL4017 Atari 400/800 Store Demo, was first planed for Pascal... CXL4018 Pilot CXL4019 In-Store Demonstration Program CXL4020 Centipede CXL4021 Caverns of Mars CXL4022 Pac-Man CXL4023 Berzerk Prototype CXL4024 Galaxian CXL4025 Defender CXL4026 Dig Dug CXL4027 Qix CXL4028 Calculator, coming soon from Abbuc, Germany Best regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Based on some early sales sheet we saw Super Bug was planned to be one of the first carts for the 800 but was never finished. Space Invaders eventually went into that slot. Also Video Easel was originally called Video Life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 :-))) Yes, you are right, only few people know that. This is why I thought, that maybe the 2 remaining disks I search for: Personal Finance Management System CX8113 Personal Finance Management System CX8114 were renamed to Family Finances, but Atari didn't took 2 different CX-numbers for the same software. A software master list of all times would be cool, free to edit for those, who can contribute some knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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