So the NES did all these to save gaming?

[goldenegg]

Have you ever been in a conversation with a fanboy of a company before ever? they will quote wikipedia like the bible, you say they are wrong, but they have a wikipedia source (as bad asit may be) and you know you have to link or show a picture, or reference something to prove them wrong, here you guys are doing none of that, it's the same as saying stuff without links while a fanboy links to wikipedia and that fanboy will not believe you because is bad source is still a source, so you need to prove his bad source wrong with a good source, this may be why nobody here edits wikipedia to make sense because you are all to busy letting happen and not doing something about the spread of pure ignorance.

 

Why exactly are you exempt from this? You seem to enjoy stirring up arguments and never back up your own statements. Your points are no more valid than that of anyone else without references to a trusted and verified source.

[high voltage]

The Tandy CoCo had analog joysticks from day 1 (1980) and the first analog joysticks on the Apple II date back at least until 1979 if not possibly 1978. I think the first year all apple had was paddle controllers.

I think the other poster is giving the NES way too much credit.

Yes, and many Pong systems during the 70s had analogue sticks, the Interton VC 4000 (1978) was the first console to include analogue joysticks with 2 fire buttons and function keys. Vectrex had analogue sticks, 5200 etc.....

[AtariLeaf]

Or you just made this all up. And the fact no one answered the thread as of this post you made at all. Heck, a Nintendo guy a few posts up just said a lot of you guy's words are wrong, why not post links or he will think you are all blathering?

 

Have you ever been in a conversation with a fanboy of a company before ever? they will quote wikipedia like the bible, you say they are wrong, but they have a wikipedia source (as bad asit may be) and you know you have to link or show a picture, or reference something to prove them wrong, here you guys are doing none of that, it's the same as saying stuff without links while a fanboy links to wikipedia and that fanboy will not believe you because is bad source is still a source, so you need to prove his bad source wrong with a good source, this may be why nobody here edits wikipedia to make sense because you are all to busy letting happen and not doing something about the spread of pure ignorance.

never mind editing wikipedia. How's about you edit up this post here so it's legible.

 

And yes, analog has been around long before the N64. I was playing games with analog sticks on my tandy coco before nintendo was a word anyone in north america was familiar with. Do you believe me or do I need to provide a link to a picture of myself playing the coco in 1981?

Edited November 4, 2013 by AtariLeaf

[Eltigro]

I was playing games with analog sticks on my tandy coco before nintendo was a word anyone in north america was familiar with. Do you believe me or do I need to provide a link to a picture of myself playing the coco in 1981?

 

I remember playing with (and hating) these back in the day...

 

[atarian63]

Nintendo's true claim to fame for that era is primarily one of business success, coming from exceptional marketing.

 

They brought the polished NES to a depressed market with good, innovative games (Super Mario Bros), and focused on the relationship with their customers, RETAILERS, and DISTRIBUTORS in many ways (yes, including the lock out chip, but also by giving away a free magazine subscription, targeted advertising and promotions, contractual requirements and legal threats, etc), and also focused on and developed the hand-held market with the Game Boy and Tetris using the same D-pad.

 

They made the cartridges different looking, and BIGGER than Atari carts, and designed the console to physically look different, even promoting the robot game to set the NES apart from the perceived compeition.

 

It was a MARKETING triumph, and Nintendo should be recognized for their shrewd decisions, bold ambitions, and relentless perseverence, especially after Atari, and Coleco screwed up in such spectacular fashion. All the technical bravada is mostly revisionist history.

the robot was a dumb idea consumers did not ne'er stand it and it raised the price of the console.nes was far from away one success. Took the embrace package and Christmas 86 to get it really moving.

[Bill Loguidice]

the robot was a dumb idea consumers did not ne'er stand it and it raised the price of the console.nes was far from away one success. Took the embrace package and Christmas 86 to get it really moving.

 

It's well known that it was necessary to package the NES as anything but a game console to get it into the same toy stores that were burned on videogame product, and the robot - as useless as it turned out to be - proved invaluable in that perception. Also, if you go back to the earliest commercials, the robot was a big point of focus, and if you were around at that time, it certainly *seemed* really cool and different. It probably didn't hurt that Worlds of Wonder, who was responsible for getting the NES into the various stores for a few years before Nintendo established themselves and no longer needed an intermediary, sold the successful Teddy Ruxpin and Laser Tag toy lines, which probably made explaining the value of an entertainment system with both a robot and light gun to retailers that much easier.

[CatPix]

For analog control, the 1292 AVPS from 1976 got analog controls too.

[oky2000]

Quo Vadis was the first epic tile based graphic system generating 10,000 screens of play area inside the 64kb of the Commodore 64 in 1984 by the EDGE software. This was actually explained on National TV on Micro Live via the BBC.

 

The Intellivision didn't really use the disc for direction all the time but well before NES there was the Suncom Joysensor with standard D9 plug where the 'disc' is hard wired for directional use. NES pads are terrible, I'd plug a zipstick into it to play Galaxian,,,,,,if iy didn't have stupid connectors.

 

In the EU there was no video game crash, we bought ZX/A8/C64/VIC tapes in 1982 and still in 1984...more of them even

 

(no point reading the rest with such factual cockups already)

 

Wiki people should have to state if they are US/Jap or unbiased when talking about gaming as outside Japan and USA Nintendo were unheard of especially in the UK/ west EU except from Donkey Kong conversions from Atarisoft/Ocean

 

Any country that bought NES and PC EGA combo for home when they could have bought ST or Amiga 1000 for $2000 less in 1985 doesn't deserve to comment on 80s gaming history, WTF would they have known?

[82-T/A]

The NES did some awesome stuff, and it was great... I bought one with my own money I earned from mowing lawns as a kid.

 

But, I don't think Nintendo saved gaming. Video games were hugely popular... like with any bubble that bursts, it eventually comes back. People would still enjoy video games and there would eventually be a market for it again, even if Nintendo hadn't come around. They definitely moved things forward a bit quicker, or at least made stuff more mainstream.