The homebrew flood ... good thing, right?

[Games For Your Intellivision]

By your definition, First Star Software, Inc. is a homebrewer.

 

Intellivision Productions is a homebrewer.

[Rev]

His definition may not be a correct one. Or at least in most peoples opinions, or at least in mine! Blah

 

'Home'brew games are typically made and/or assembled and shipped in a persons home, verses a factory or business.

 

How the company is set up legally is almost irrelevent IMO.

 

Intellivision productions has an official office.

 

First star software. I googled their address it showed up in a house? Is that right? Anyway, i dont think boulder dash on the Ds was manufactured and shipped from their house.

 

 

So, if elektronite dont wish to be called homebrew, you have the right too.

 

Just try not to get annoyed if anyone else calls your games honebrew.

 

Ok. Im done blabbing.

Edited August 17, 2014 by revolutionika

[Games For Your Intellivision]

I don't know. I've never been to their office. Whether it is in a house or not.....who cares? Cisco started in a kitchen. Amazon in a house.

 

I live on light industrial land. Does that make my house a place of business? The city certainly thinks so.

 

When I started I wanted to produce professional grade products. I've done that. My stuff is better than anything produced my Mattel in the day.

 

Call me homebrew. I don't care anymore. I'm publishing games and will be doing so for smartphones eventually. . I'm not using recycled products. I've got agreements with Cinemaware, First Star Software, Apogee and will be making games for Intellivison Productions when they get around to it.

 

I'm not a big corporation making a ton of money, but neither is Intellivison Productions. Call me homebrew if you think that is what I am. Doesn't matter.

[JasonlikesINTV]

My two cents. Homebrew at it's core means brewed from the home, implying a VERY small business or side project/hobby. Intellivision Productions, First Star, and Elektronite are all trying to grow and expand, but they have humble origins. It's all relative, but I'd be willing to call all of their games 'products of small businesses' instead of homebrews. William has specifically requested that his products NOT be called homebrews, and I will formally oblige. That being said, I will likely informally refer to just about any new small batch Intellivision release as a homebrew...no offense intended, it's just easier. If it makes any difference, Elektronite releases are of the highest quality and comparable or superior to any game product from a large established company.

[Rev]

Embrace homebrew! It is not an insult.

[+SoulBuster]

I have to chime in here with my thoughts.

 

I manufactured Old School in my home. I did so at the behest of Classic Game Publishers, Inc. "Inc." That tells me this is an incorporated entity. Where the product was manufactured after a company is called "Inc." is not relevant. Programmers are hired, artists are hired, manufacturing departments are hired, taxes are paid. This is a company release, not a homebrew release.

 

How many small release games are having taxes paid?

 

The small run of Paddle Party is another example of a Corporate entity. From time to time, later, small releases will be made for all Elektronite games, except for those that have been announced as "Out of Print". But, those are for different reasons, right?

 

Homebrew is a good thing. It brings even more games to the community.

Edited August 17, 2014 by SoulBuster

[Rev]

 

Hey, being homebrew isnt that bad.

[+SoulBuster]

Love that definition!!

[Intymike]

 

First star software. I googled their address it showed up in a house? Is that right?

 

 

 

Thank god they don't have to sit on the street.

[AtariBuff]

Call it a business when you pay taxes. Call it homebrew when you don't.

 

Elektronite is a registered company, I believe, so it's not homebrew. I don't think all the other publishers, like Team Pixelboy or CollectorVision are registered and so it's homebrews. Voila. Correct me if I'm wrong

[Rev]

New slogan

 

Elektronite: A cut above the rest

[Games For Your Intellivision]

Two pictures of the 3 million dollar printer we use for our 'homebrews'.

 

 

 

 

[Rev]

http://www.graphictrader.com/details.php?ad_ref=9C19-U3048

 

Looks like there is no money in making homebrews, lets pull our resources together everyone and buy this printer for 500,000.

Even if we sell for 2 million, plenty of profit for those that invest.

 

 

 

Who's with me? **crickets**

Edited August 19, 2014 by revolutionika

[Games For Your Intellivision]

I have an exercise bike that I paid $400 for and can't sell it for $100.

 

Half a million seems like a 'bargain' but it is too much money for me.

[+intvsteve]

Does that price include shipping, installation at new site, and staff to operate and maintain for the next 10 years? If so, then we should dig in our couch cushions and crack the kids' piggy banks and grab this thing!

[san-d-2000]

if there are too many bad releases people will start to hold off on buying them

 

I use to buy all Coleco homebrew, but now I only buy the ones I think I'll like.

 

Same here

[+Tarzilla]

Two pictures of the 3 million dollar printer we use for our 'homebrews'.

 

I have a couple of serious (non-flame bait) questions regarding this.

 

What is so special about this printer at 100,000, let alone 3 million?

Are your costs per box cheaper than local printers, even after shipping the final product from this printer to you?

Is the quality of printing better than other available methods of printing boxes?

Does it die cut the boxes?

I don't have any of your boxes to compare against other recent releases from TeamPixelboy, CollectorVision or AA, so I can't tell if there is a difference.

[Rev]

Tarzilla, cant you read? Its a 3 million dollar printer. It blows all the other homebrewers and their Costco printers out the water.

 

 

 

But apparently, as soon as you drive these 3 million dollar printers off the lot, they 80% of their value in a few years.

[retroillucid]

Call it a business when you pay taxes. Call it homebrew when you don't.

 

Elektronite is a registered company, I believe, so it's not homebrew. I don't think all the other publishers, like Team Pixelboy or CollectorVision are registered and so it's homebrews. Voila. Correct me if I'm wrong

 

CollectorVision Games Inc. is a registered buisness

We're making homebrew and Indie games

[retroillucid]

Tarzilla, cant you read? Its a 3 million dollar printer. It blows all the other homebrewers and their Costco printers out the water.

 

 

 

But apparently, as soon as you drive these 3 million dollar printers off the lot, they 80% of their value in a few years.

 

We're printing on similar printer

[IntellivisionDude]

I don't want to start anything either but i'm so not picky, i'd be happy if the games boxes were shoe boxes, cereal boxes, or just any cheap cardboard with the artwork printed on it. Look at those boxes Voltron made. Simple and artistic. Anything to drive down the costs. I know i'm usually in the minority with my thinking.

[Rev]

Shoebox? :-/

[retroillucid]

I don't want to start anything either but i'm so not picky, i'd be happy if the games boxes were shoe boxes, cereal boxes, or just any cheap cardboard with the artwork printed on it. Look at those boxes Voltron made. Simple and artistic. Anything to drive down the costs. I know i'm usually in the minority with my thinking.

We will soon offer cart only for our INtv games

This will drive the cost down for sure

 

[IntellivisionDude]

We will soon offer cart only for our INtv games

This will drive the cost down for sure

 

 

I still like to have the boxes most of the time. But cheaper alternatives would be cool too. I don't own many homebrews, but they all have boxes except one and it's a 2600 game (Candy Catcher), but i opted to save money on that and just get the cart. Maybe it also had more to do with the system. If it's Intellivision i feel a box is a must, but for other systems i don't care as much.

[Games For Your Intellivision]

I have a couple of serious (non-flame bait) questions regarding this.

 

What is so special about this printer at 100,000, let alone 3 million?

Are your costs per box cheaper than local printers, even after shipping the final product from this printer to you?

Is the quality of printing better than other available methods of printing boxes?

Does it die cut the boxes?

I don't have any of your boxes to compare against other recent releases from TeamPixelboy, CollectorVision or AA, so I can't tell if there is a difference.

 

What is special about it? It is a good printer. There are a lot of different models of that brand. If Rev was trying to show that I am exaggerating that it is actually an expensive printer by showing a used one at a mere half a million I think he has failed. I got my figure from the printing company. I didn't pull it out of my ass. They come from Germany and I am sure importation costs were part of that cost.

 

Local printers? They are a local printer. The die cutter is a Bobst and it is a different machine.

 

The quality is excellent.