+grips03 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I made two Colecovision controller mini pcbs for Super Famicom NTT Data gamepad, one using SOT23-3 and the other 1206 small signal diodes. No idea if they will work, but will test in 3 weeks. If wires don't fit due to space, I can make a new full scale pcb, but would need to sell 9, in order to make it worth the effort, around 30 hours of time. Bare mini PCB without diodes would be $18 shipped in US and $23 to Canada. With diodes soldered would be $30 for US and $35 for Canada. Diodes do not cost much, but they are annoying to solder. Larger pcb would close to $80-100, so I would only make if the above mini pcb fails. Both of these would be DIY, i.e. not selling a complete controller. Post interest below. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I would be interested in a "complete solution" (controller already modded) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) 2nd pic is the NTT Data controller Another option might be, Super Famicom Konami HISSATSU COMMAND CONTROLLER Edited February 5, 2014 by grips03 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I'd prefer the NTT Data Controller and a complete solution as Retro stated above. I don't have the skill set for DIY unfortunately, but have the spare change in the old account to pay for this retro obsession of mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) I won't be making any complete controllers, but perhaps others here would. Edited February 5, 2014 by grips03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLic0ne t0aD Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Good work, looks great. I'm definitely interested, diodes already soldered. Price sounds reasonable as well. The rest isn't a big deal.. I got a line on a controller as we speak. Keep up the good work! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoLethalVision Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 That NTT Data controller is awesome. Setup those colored buttons so that I can play mouse trap and that would be my ultimate CV d-pad. Do they have shoulder buttons? Also I would need a complete ready to go item. I don't mind paying a little more the pleasure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chart45 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 im in i try so many time to fit the coleco pcb in the controller but never been able to close the controller after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_c Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) I was watching one of those controllers on eBay a couple weeks ago and didn't bite. Dammit... I may prefer a joystick over a pad though. Edited February 5, 2014 by frank_c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imstarryeyed Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I would be interested in one or two of these grips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 I would be interested in one or two of these grips. I only have one controller. Can you pickup a couple on eBay when they are listed? If someone knows of a supply of these, let me know. Also who on here likes to solder small SMT parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 pcbs will be here next week. If someone knows of a supply of ntt data controllers let me know otherwise this will be pcb only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 looks like I'll have the first set of pcbs on Saturday, SOT23-3 based pcb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chart45 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) i have 3 ntt data and 4 famicom network maybe you could built and sell in exchange of not modded controller Edited February 13, 2014 by chart45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 I just don't think that many people have those controllers to exchange. If people would mail controllers to me, I guess I can put the PCB in for them for a fee. I don't mind making 4 or 5 of them, but after that its PCBs only for me and let someone else do the heavy lifting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chart45 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 i know how hard its to add pcb in those controller since i try many time with out success and finish to put in a externe box but the famicom network controller i have its so great to play with i cant wait to get you ntt pcb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 i know how hard its to add pcb in those controller since i try many time with out success and finish to put in a externe box but the famicom network controller i have its so great to play with i cant wait to get you ntt pcb I'm going to take a ton of pictures for install into the super famicom ntt data controller. I'll add them to this thread. I really I hope I got it right the first time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 2nd mini pcb based on 1206 has shipped, should be here Monday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) 1) wiring info for Superfamicom NTT Data Please note that PCB needs to have ground traces cut as up, down, left, right, A (Left button) use ground. All else uses common and not ground. 2) picture of pcb with ICs and resistors removed. 3) mini pcb with 1206 diodes attached. 4) Chipquik - use to remove 3 ICs. The resistors can come off with the soldering iron only. 5) Desolder braid - use with flux paste below to remove Chipquik 6) Flux paste - use with desolder braid to remove Chipquik. Make sure pcb is out of case as you don't want flux on controller case. 7) Flux remover - use to remove sticky flux from the SFC NTT Data PCB 8-) Use Kimtech wipes to remove flux. Old toothbrush also helps - do not use toothbrush for human use ever again! Use with Flux remover. 9) Otherside of NTT data PCB, still needs to have ground plane and traces cut and wired. You might be able to see pencil marks where this will occur. Edited February 16, 2014 by grips03 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chart45 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 nice start have you try to close the controller with the pcb in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) nice start have you try to close the controller with the pcb in Step 2 pic 1 - you can see how small the mini pcb is, and yes the case closes just fine. pic 2 - shows the traces to cut to make buttons b,x,y and keypad use common, This makes up, down, left, right, A use GND. pic 3 - make sure to tin the pads with solder, for the 30awg wire. Also make sure to cover contacts with electrical tape so pins do not short against the mini pcb pic 4 - shows how the db9 cable would better on the other side pic 5 - shows the two posts to remove off rear shell - in blue , might not be needed on rev2. Notice the lower posts on the rear shell, this holds the mini pcb in place. pic 6 - shows the type of wire to use, also the type of bit to use on the Dremel to cut the traces on the NTT Data PCB in pic 2 pic 7 - Notice the white cross wire does not interfere with the rubber contacts. pic 8 - shows where to connect COM (common) pic 9 - use Hakko / CHP CSP-30-1 to cut the wire shown in pic 6 Edited February 16, 2014 by grips03 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chart45 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 nice how many hour you put in at this stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) 5 hours so far, all I can say it won't be making complete controllers. I'll make PCBs for others to mod. I don't really like gamepads anyway Edited February 16, 2014 by grips03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) pic 1 - shows all wired connected pic 2 - shows how to tape L/R buttons to make closing case easier pic 3 - how to smash a whole bunch of wires in the case pic 4 - I made Left button = A Right button = B button 3 = X button 4 = Y - might be better to swap these around so it makes more sense I did not connect . C < > Left Right There is a spot on the PCB to connect Left to * and Right to # Edited February 16, 2014 by grips03 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) Labor instensive it is and now I completely understand why you prefer to just sell the Mini-PCB and not offer a full moding service. Let me ask you this as I am completely ignorant on what it would take time wise as well as financially. Would it be possible/feasible to design a complete replacement PCB that has a DB9 cable all wired up to it that would just be dropped into the controller shell after the NTT PCB was removed. Well, actually, I know it is possible after seeing your projects as well as other numerous projects over the years here on AtariAge. Thanks for sharing all the pics. Edited February 16, 2014 by NIAD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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