Omega-TI Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Has anyone else ever experienced the BLUE SCREEN of DEATH on their TI? My P-Box stopped working today. If I have the P-BOX on, then turn on my console all I get is a BLUE SCREEN. If I turn off the P-Box or unplug it, the video it comes up fine. So what is the TI looking for that it does not find? Is the 32K memory dead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 You try cleaning all the edge and female connectors, or reseating everything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 You try cleaning all the edge and female connectors, or reseating everything? I did reseat everything, but I did not clean the contacts. I had just finished playing Road Hunter, turned off the TI and went for some coffee. I decided to come back just 10 minutes later to do some disk formatting when the BLUE SCREEN punched me in the face. I dunno what the problem is. If I had some extra cards to swap out I could narrow it down pretty fast. Of course with 30+ year old Tech it could just as easily be a bad capacitor. Sigh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Yeah, clean all the connectors first of course. And if you're lucky... you can look for obvious signs of cap damage (bubbling, or dome shaped up top or leaking on the bottom) or otherwise just shotgun replace suspect components. Blue screen of death universally sucks, but funny how the system still works! Have not seen too many truly blown TI's in my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary from OPA Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Start by removing all the cards, except for the flex card. Then if it works, install just the 32k memory or whatever you using, and making sure SIZE displays it from Extended Basic. Then install your Disk controller and makes sure Extended Basic does a DSK1.LOAD with no problems. After that work on RS232 and other non-normal cards like a Ramdisk, etc. What is the type of cards in your system? Do you have CorComp Disk or Horizon Ramdisk, both of those are famous for giving a blue-screen as they try to take over the power-up dsr code. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 After that work on RS232 and other non-normal cards like a Ramdisk, etc. Well, I found the problem, and it's depressing. There is 'something' wrong with my HDX board.... 1) I pulled the RS-232/HDX, and the TI booted up properly, so... 2) I pulled the battery on the card to wipe the memory (my thinking was the programming got corrupted somehow). 3) I re-inserted the card, turned on the computer and it booted up just fine, so... 4) I ran the HDX programming program... 5) ... BLUE SCREEN of DEATH again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantStopClicking Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Nice looking HDX board! :-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 Nice looking HDX board! :-P Yeah, I agree! The guy that put it together does some damn fine work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am1933 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I did reseat everything, but I did not clean the contacts. I had just finished playing Road Hunter, turned off the TI and went for some coffee. I decided to come back just 10 minutes later to do some disk formatting when the BLUE SCREEN punched me in the face. I dunno what the problem is. If I had some extra cards to swap out I could narrow it down pretty fast. Of course with 30+ year old Tech it could just as easily be a bad capacitor. Sigh.... Now that's what I call a game!-does Rasmus know that Road Hunter destroys P.E.B's? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) Did the guy that put it together remember to cut the interrupt trace? no 5 on this photo http://home.vodafonethuis.nl/fgkaal/Hardware/hw_ti99hdx_card_rs232.html The trace needs to be cut for the card to allow the TI to finish the bootup routine with a bad DSR Greg Edited February 14, 2014 by arcadeshopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 Did the guy that put it together remember to cut the interrupt trace? no 5 on this photo http://home.vodafonethuis.nl/fgkaal/Hardware/hw_ti99hdx_card_rs232.html The trace needs to be cut for the card to allow the TI to finish the bootup routine with a bad DSR Greg Thanks Greg, I check the card for this. It should be fine though; it boots up fine with NO DSR, it's just after it's loaded that it screws up. It WAS working perfect. Either way I'll should have my replacement unit on Tuesday of next week... along with my 80 track update for the FDC. Hopefully I get everything up and running before my UDS-10 shows up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Thanks Greg, I check the card for this. It should be fine though; it boots up fine with NO DSR, it's just after it's loaded that it screws up. It WAS working perfect. Either way I'll should have my replacement unit on Tuesday of next week... along with my 80 track update for the FDC. Hopefully I get everything up and running before my UDS-10 shows up. Ok if it boots without the dsr then that trace is cut.. There must be another issue. Are you leaving the PC plugged in? Try booting with the pc unplugged if so.. I had a prob the other day with my tI locking on boot and it turned out it was my PC not responding to hdx because it had locked Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 Ok if it boots without the dsr then that trace is cut.. There must be another issue. Are you leaving the PC plugged in? Try booting with the pc unplugged if so.. I had a prob the other day with my tI locking on boot and it turned out it was my PC not responding to hdx because it had locked Greg It had never been an issue before, it would boot with the laptop on, off, plugged it, unplugged, in stand by mode, minimized, maximized or not even running the HDX program. It's that proverbial 'something else'. I'll give that a try though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneMultitasker Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 It had never been an issue before, it would boot with the laptop on, off, plugged it, unplugged, in stand by mode, minimized, maximized or not even running the HDX program. It's that proverbial 'something else'. I'll give that a try though! Have you tested the battery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 Have you tested the battery? Yepper's! That was the FIRST thing I tried. It's tested as good, but I figured it could not hurt to slip a new one in 'just in case'. Still... Nothing on the PC side... The thing is a snap to program (aka bullet/idiot proof) And I checked the DSR's afterwards with DU2K It's gotta be the HDX itself.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary from OPA Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 If not the battery, it could be backup circuit to the ram, make sure the diode and other parts are ok, check for battery power on the actual ram chip pins when the PE-box is off, or the card is unplugged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsy Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Might just be worth running your soldering iron over the solder joints in case you had a dry joint that finally gave in. Given its age it's unlikely that there is anything seriously wrong with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLM78 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I'm wondering how this has turned out. I've been having problems of my own lately, but since I'm not connected to the internet at home yet, I'll wait to post about that. Hope you get it working Kevan! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 I'm wondering how this has turned out. I've been having problems of my own lately, but since I'm not connected to the internet at home yet, I'll wait to post about that. Hope you get it working Kevan! Hi Robert, Yep, just got it working today! I was able to swap in a new TI RS-232 with an HDX onboard and everything is working A-OK. I also have some new chips plugged into my TI-FDC, so now with the 80 track chips installed I have 360K on each drive for a total of 720K in the PEB. Now I'm just waiting on my UDS-10 so I can telnet with the TI. I'm also using the Y-cable now for the HDX since the UDS-10 will be plugged into it as well. The interesting thing about the Y-cable I bought off of eBay, the /1 and /2 are mis-labeled! My biggest concern is what's next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Was it the HDX or the RS232 at fault here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Was it the HDX or the RS232 at fault here? I never got that far in the diagnosis, so I cannot honestly tell you. Sorry. The assumption is the HDX, but it'll take a while to be sure. I'm just happy to be back up. This time I'm going to be smarter and put more stuff on disk "just in case something else happens". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 Now that's what I call a game!-does Rasmus know that Road Hunter destroys P.E.B's? After I played it today I had to re-load my DSR in the HDX... I gotta admit, it does have me a little spooked! It's gotta be a coincidence, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am1933 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 After I played it today I had to re-load my DSR in the HDX... I gotta admit, it does have me a little spooked! It's gotta be a coincidence, right? I don't know, this is starting to look serious, there can only be one outcome-RASMUS MUST BE STOPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmusr Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 After I played it today I had to re-load my DSR in the HDX... I gotta admit, it does have me a little spooked! It's gotta be a coincidence, right? I've decided to rename it to RAM Hunter. It will track down any RAM and destroy it! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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