9640 News on one hard disk image

[mizapf]

Hi all, in particular the Geneve users,

 

I just uploaded a hard disk image (MESS CHDv5 format) to WHTech, containing all the folders of 9640news. Caution: The image is a bit longer than 90 MiB. You can mount that image in MESS and use it with the HFDC controller, or you can open it in TIImageTool, and from there create your disk images with the files you are interested in. In TIImageTool you can transparently open ARK files (Archiver) like ordinary subdirectories, so you can quickly browse through that vast amount of files with a few mouse clicks.

[jedimatt42]

So, I want to go through all of this to catch up on what my Geneve can do. But it frustrates me a bit that this is all up on the internet in forms that cannot be searched by the all mighty google.

 

As a disk-azine or whatever they liked to call it, it is difficult to consume without tools like TiImageTool and Ti99Dir on a bigger computer.

 

As I go through them, if I were inclined to spend the effort converting .arks of text to txt or html, or pdf, and re-publish in modern form, would that be OK? Who do I credit? They look like compilations of other publications, and someone must get credit for the original curating effort.

 

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[Omega-TI]

Jedi,

It'd be a hoot to convert one to TI-Browser format, but with so many things going on right now, I'm behind on my "TI list of things to do".

[+Schmitzi]

Hi, what is Ti-Browser-Format ?

[mizapf]

As a disk-azine or whatever they liked to call it, it is difficult to consume without tools like TiImageTool and Ti99Dir on a bigger computer.

 

As I go through them, if I were inclined to spend the effort converting .arks of text to txt or html, or pdf, and re-publish in modern form, would that be OK? Who do I credit? They look like compilations of other publications, and someone must get credit for the original curating effort.

 

If you're planning to do something like that, I just updated TIImageTool so that the command shell is a bit more useful.

 

You can invoke it with

 

 

java -jar tiimagetool.jar CommandShell lsf all.hd

 

Try "CommandShell -h" to get a list of options. You can, for instance, list the current directory to the standard output, and the directories are suffixed with a ".d" so this could be helpful for script processing.

 

The recent update was to allow archive files to be used as directories, so you can also descend into an archive and list it.

[jedimatt42]

Hi, what is Ti-Browser-Format ?

See this thread about the web-browser that can run on a TI-99/4a with a UDS-10 Serial to Ethernet device.

 

http://atariage.com/forums/topic/231274-stuarts-ti-994a-internet-web-browser/

 

 

 

If you're planning to do something like that, I just updated TIImageTool so that the command shell is a bit more useful.

...

Thanks, I'll take a look at that. I might just use it as a java/groovy API too.

 

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[jedimatt42]

A couple questions:

 

Is there any correlation I can make between CATXX and the approximate date? Even an approximate year would be better than no historical date information. I can't stand the part of the internet that has no date attached to the content. I don't want to add to that.

 

There are CATXX folders that have no entries. Was that a year/month/quarter when the 9640news didn't publish?

 

And is there anywhere an overview of what the 9640news was, and who published it? Maybe someone recalls a Micropendium announcement or something... I would like to preface this material in some way.

[+Schmitzi]

 

See this thread about the web-browser that can run on a TI-99/4a with a UDS-10 Serial to Ethernet device.

 

http://atariage.com/forums/topic/231274-stuarts-ti-994a-internet-web-browser/

 

 

 

yes, thanks, I use the browser (UDS) (and made my first move in chess ,

but I did or do not understand what this "format" should be.

 

Edit: Ah OK 9640 "NEWS", OK, means HTML-content, shown in the browser,

and I thought of programs and how to run programs

 

So this would be a really great deal, converting that content for the TI-browser !!

Edited February 13, 2016 by schmitzi

[Omega-TI]

 

yes, thanks, I use the browser (UDS) (and made my first move in chess ,

 

 

Speaking of which, it's been your move in our game for a couple of days now buddy....

[jedimatt42]

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and who published it? Maybe someone recalls a Micropendium announcement or something... I would like to preface this material in some way.

Answer: Beery Miller.

[+Ksarul]

Beery Miller was the spearhead for the effort of Geneve9640 owners to buy the unrestricted source code rights for the Geneve from Myarc (MDOS, ABASIC, GPL, GEME, and the P-System Runtime Environment). Those of us who were concerned about the issue donated money to a fund Beery managed until we had enough to buy them out--and we as a group immediately made the source code Public Domain. Beery was the code maintainer for quite some time, taking the OS to (at least) version 2.5. Beyond that it moved on to others. 9640 News was Beery's software company. He published the newsletter (on disk) for several years, and also issued several games for ABASIC, 9640 Windows, and a number of other MDOS utilities.

[+Schmitzi]

 

Speaking of which, it's been your move in our game for a couple of days now buddy....

 

 

Oooh yes I now, but the time at the moment.....sry

[jedimatt42]

Beery Miller was the spearhead for the effort of Geneve9640 owners to buy the unrestricted source code rights for the Geneve from Myarc (MDOS, ABASIC, GPL, GEME, and the P-System Runtime Environment). Those of us who were concerned about the issue donated money to a fund Beery managed until we had enough to buy them out--and we as a group immediately made the source code Public Domain. Beery was the code maintainer for quite some time, taking the OS to (at least) version 2.5. Beyond that it moved on to others. 9640 News was Beery's software company. He published the newsletter (on disk) for several years, and also issued several games for ABASIC, 9640 Windows, and a number of other MDOS utilities.

Thanks! I'll likely steal this text

[jedimatt42]

I've converted the Disk distribution volume1 issue 1 to markdown, and then the static site generator I use turns it into the html you see here:

 

http://ti994a.cwfk.net/9640news/9640news.html

 

http://ti994a.cwfk.net/9640news/volume1-1.html

 

This is not 99ml. Sorry, I haven't had a chance at that yet. But, the intermediate markdown is basically text. I should be able to use it to generate 99ml. I'll give that a try after I have some more content in markdown.

 

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[+Schmitzi]

awesome ! really great to see that on the web.

thanks, and Go Swat Go

[+Schmitzi]

 

it's bedtime, and I am reading 9640news with iPad in the web - Am I crazy ? :)

so cool

[jedimatt42]

I'm glad you are enjoying the effort. There is so much information and history in there.

 

I've worked on making the process faster today.

 

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[+Schmitzi]

yes, there are 3 more online now

thx

[jedimatt42]

Yep, that's all of volume 1.

 

Mizapf's TiImageTool on my linux laptop makes it pretty easy. The time consuming part is that much of the articles or software docs in them are formatted for printing, or in some cases ti-writer/myword formatter format. So I do a bunch of work stripping that out, and reviewing... But that's really what I want anyway, an excuse to review ALL of it.

 

I've got to take a couple days off from it, now that I've got it down... A little travel for work.

 

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[+InsaneMultitasker]

I've converted the Disk distribution volume1 issue 1 to markdown, and then the static site generator I use turns it into the html you see here:

 

http://ti994a.cwfk.net/9640news/9640news.html

 

http://ti994a.cwfk.net/9640news/volume1-1.html

 

This is not 99ml. Sorry, I haven't had a chance at that yet. But, the intermediate markdown is basically text. I should be able to use it to generate 99ml. I'll give that a try after I have some more content in markdown.

 

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This brings back a lot of memories... and some good reminders!!! Great job doing this...

[TInaut]

A couple questions:Is there any correlation I can make between CATXX and the approximate date? Even an approximate year would be better than no historical date information.

Not that it answers your questions, but the CATXX folders were the catalogs/categories of files on the 9640 New BBS that Beery Miller ran. FILES.BBS in each CATXX is an 80-column text file with file descriptions of the files in that catalog. FILES.40 is the 40-column text version. 9640 News was also a diskazine sold by Beery Miller.

[jedimatt42]

Thanks, that information is helpful. Very helpful.

 

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[+Schmitzi]

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maybe this can help a bit, as there are dates in some of the directories ?

I don´t know, but I thin I just post it

 

NWSDIR-9640News-Index.pdf

[+InsaneMultitasker]

This FAQ may have some relevant information for you.

 

http://ftp.whtech.com/Geneve/mdos/9640faq.rtf

[Omega-TI]

This FAQ may have some relevant information for you.

 

http://ftp.whtech.com/Geneve/mdos/9640faq.rtf

 

Nice little document, but it needed to be in a newer file format, and tweaked a tad for spelling. The cover page also needed to be dressed up just a little.

Genever 9640 FAQ.pdf