+Charlie Cat Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 Hi guys, ファミ通AppVS esports @FamitsuAppVS 【サムスピ】東映太秦映画村でesports大会が初開催! 初代王者は「伝説のオタク」!! #サムライスピリッツ #サムスピ #太秦上洛まつり @den_ta9 Translated from Japanese by [Samspi] The first esports tournament is held at Toei Dazai Film Village! The first champion is `` Legendary Otaku '' !! #サムライスピリッツ#サムスピ#太秦上洛まつり @den_ta9 【サムスピ】東映太秦映画村でesports大会が初開催! 初代王者は「伝説のオタク」!! – ファミ通AppVS 2019年11月16日、東映太秦映画村の“太秦上洛まつり”にて、世界大会へ通じるSWCJapan Tour『サムライスピリッツ』部門の大会が開催された。プロゲーマーなど強豪プレイヤーが集まったなか、激戦を制した伝説のオタクが優勝した。本稿では、大会の模様を振り返る。 appvs.famitsu.com 9:34 AM · Nov 18, 2019 Anthony.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 Hi guys, ファミ通AppVS esports @FamitsuAppVS 【サムライスピリッツ】太秦上洛まつり大会優勝、伝説のオタクインタビュー「アースクエイクでやっと結果を出せてうれしい」 #サムライスピリッツ #サムスピ #太秦映画村 @den_ta9 Translated from Japanese by [Samurai Spirits] Dazai Kamijo Festival winner, legendary otaku interview #サムライスピリッツ#サムスピ#太秦映画村 @den_ta9 【サムライスピリッツ】太秦上洛まつり大会優勝、伝説のオタクインタビュー「アースクエイクでやっと結果を出せてうれしい」 – ファミ通AppVS 2019年11月16日、京都の“太秦上洛まつり”で開催された『サムライスピリッツ』大会。強豪プレイヤーが集まる中、使い手の少ないアースクエイクで優勝を果たした伝説のオタクのインタビューを掲載する。 appvs.famitsu.com 9:35 AM · Nov 18, 2019 Anthony... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 Hi guys, Back with Atariage member Cyrus Martin. Well, did Cyrus buy another Neo-Geo AES unit? Welp, let's listen in on what he has to say shall we? Anthony.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 Hey guys, Back with Scarlet Sprites with more regarding the Neo geo Arcade Stick Pro. Here is his subjective review on this unit. Enjoy. From the description, "After two short videos I've finally finished my actual review of the Neo Geo Arcade Stick Pro. Will it meet expectations or fall flat like the Neo Mini?" Anthony.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Hi guys, SNK GLOBAL @SAMURAI SHODOWN - Available Now!@SNKPofficial 22h Announcement: We are supporting this tournament via our e-sports support program! #SNK #SAMURAISHODOWN #KOFXIV https://facebook.com/events/2325365724376345/… Anthony.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Hi guys, East London Fighters@eastlondonFGC 22h This week’s #SundayShodown is just ONE DAY after our offline #SamSho tournament! You can join us offline here: http://bit.ly/TekkenTT_2 Or online here: http://bit.ly/tntsamurai2 Both are supported by @SNKPofficial & are sure to be fun! Anthony... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Hi guys, 【公式】KOF ALLSTAR @KOF_ALLSTAR 【11/19アップデート開催のお知らせ】 ★5 風間 仁、リン・シャオユウが 鉄拳7コラボピックアップガチャに登場! アーマーキングを仲間にできるラッシュイベントや 2つのスーパーミッションも開催 今すぐKOFASで鉄拳7コラボを楽しもう! 詳細▼ https://kofallstar.netmarble.jp/notice/view.aspx?idx=9703&p=1… #KOFAS #KOF #鉄拳7 Translated from Japanese by [Notice of 11/19 update] ★ 5 Hitoshi Kazama and Lin Xiaoyu appear in Tekken 7 collaboration pickup gacha! Rush event and two super missions to make arc marking a friend Enjoy Tekken 7 collaboration now with KOFAS! Details ▼https://kofallstar.netmarble.jp/notice/view.aspx?idx=9703&p=1…#KOFAS#KOF#鉄拳7 1:50 AM · Nov 19, 2019 Anthony.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Hi guys, KOFクロニクル公式 @kofchronicle イベント「Episode of Fighters -リョウ編-」をリリースしました! ステージをクリアして限定ファイター「リョウ・サカザキ(AS) 」を獲得しましょう♪ ユリ・サカザキ誘拐事件の続編ストーリーが楽しめます!!是非お見逃しなく! https://snk-corp.co.jp/official/kof-chronicle/news/?p=4226… #KOFクロニクル Translated from Japanese by Event "Episode of Fighters -Ryo edition-" has been released! Clear the stage and get the exclusive fighter Ryo Sakazaki (AS) ♪ Enjoy the sequel story of Yuri Sakazaki's kidnapping! ! Don't miss it! https://snk-corp.co.jp/official/kof-chronicle/news/?p=4226…#KOFクロニクル イベント『EPISODE OF FIGHTERS リョウ編』開催のお知らせ | KOFクロニクル いつも『KOFクロニクル』をご利用いただきありがとうございます。 期間限定イベント「EPISODE OF FIGHTERS リョウ編」を開催… snk-corp.co.jp Anthony... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Hi guys, コミックナタリー @comic_natalie オトナの男のためのWebマンガ誌誕生!「COBRA」新作、八神庵の異世界ものなど連載 https://natalie.mu/comic/news/356033… Translated from Japanese by Birth of a web manga magazine for adult men! "COBRA" new work, serialization of other worlds of Yagami Kaoru https://natalie.mu/comic/news/356033… 1:18 AM · Nov 19, 2019 Anthony.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Hi guys, 蒼木雅彦 @aokimasahiko 本日創刊したKADOKAWA comicHUにて『THE KING OF FANTASY 八神庵の異世界無双 月を見るたび思い出せ!』(原作:天河信彦先生)コミカライズ連載開始しました。 ComicWalker https://comic-walker.com/contents/detail/KDCW_MF09000003010000_68/… #ComicWalker ニコニコ漫画 https://seiga.nicovideo.jp/comic/44750 よろしくお願いいたします! Translated from Japanese by At KADOKAWA comicHU launched today, “THE KING OF FANTASY Rei Yagami's different world Musou see every month! (Original work: Prof. Nobuhiko Tenkawa) Comicalize series has started. ComicWalker https://comic-walker.com/contents/detail/KDCW_MF09000003010000_68/…#ComicWalker Happy cartoon https://seiga.nicovideo.jp/comic/44750 Thank you! Anthony... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Hi guys, Back with Scarlet Sprites on more news with the Neo Geo Arcade Stick on being hackable. Enjoy. From the description, "Well that didn't take too long. This is our first publicly available Neo Geo Arcade Stick Pro hack courtesy of Chrisstapleton_C on Reddit. Link to his post is below." Anthony.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Hi guys, Back with AtariAge member FGFchris continuing on with part 4 of King of Fighters AllStar. Enjoy. Anthony... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Hi guys, Nintendo Life@nintendolife 37m Hardware Review: SNK Neo Geo Arcade Stick Pro - Better Than The Capcom Home Arcade? http://nintendolife.com/news/2019/11/hardware_review_snk_neo_geo_arcade_stick_pro_-_better_than_the_capcom_home_arcade… #Repost #Features #HardwareReview #SNK #NeoGeo Hardware Review: SNK Neo Geo Arcade Stick Pro - Better Than The Capcom Home Arcade? SNK is back with new hardware, but is it any good? by Damien McFerran 12pm http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/11/hardware_review_snk_neo_geo_arcade_stick_pro_-_better_than_the_capcom_home_arcade After the initial flurry of interest in micro-consoles – triggered largely due to the release of the excellent NES and SNES Classic Editions – we've seen some pretty left-field entries into this niche sector of the hardware market. SNK's Neo Geo Mini added an LCD screen and presented itself as a miniature coin-op cabinet which could connect to your TV, while Koch's recent Capcom Home Arcade gave us a two-player monster shaped like a gigantic Capcom logo. The micro-console sector is clearly big enough to allow some room for experimentation, and that's why we have the Neo Geo Arcade Stick Pro – one of the many hardware projects the resurgent SNK hinted at a while back. On the face of it, it's a massive arcade stick with a micro-switched stick, eight face buttons and a host of inputs and switches. 20 games come pre-loaded, and it connects to your TV via HDMI, while power is supplied by a USB-C port. However, there's a lot more to it than meets the eye, which we'll come to shortly. To begin with, let's take a look at the build quality of this thing, and how it controls – two topics which will be of great concern to those who have already invested in the Neo Geo Mini and perhaps felt a little robbed. The Mini was a marvellous little machine that was hamstrung by some irksome issues – the lack of a micro-switched stick being perhaps the most obvious. The good news here is that SNK has clearly listened to feedback and has equipped the Arcade Stick Pro with a clicky and responsive stick with a square gate. It's not quite up to the standard of the Sanwa stick on the Capcom Home Arcade – and the face buttons aren't as nice to use, either – but overall, the control setup here is a huge improvement over the one on the Neo Geo Mini. It also has two USB-C controller ports on the bottom edge (with a 3.5mm headphone jack sandwiched in-between) into which you can plug Neo Geo controllers – essential for when you want to play against a friend. The other big problem with the Mini was video output; while the on-board LCD display was fantastic and matched the original Neo Geo hardware's resolution almost perfectly, HDMI-out was a different story; a horrible filter was applied to the image which made every game look fuzzy and ill-defined – and there was no way to turn it off. Again, SNK has learned from its mistakes and included a 'pixel-perfect' option here; while it's still not quite as sharp as we'd like (the system outputs at 720p, rather than the crisper 1080p resolution of the Capcom Home Arcade), it's still a massive step up from the Mini. A smoothing filter option is also included, as are three different scanline options, but they're all terrible and not worth bothering with. The unit's UI is a total rip-off of the Switch's home screen, right down to the way the pop-up menus at the bottom of the screen look. This is no bad thing as the interface benefits from being clean and intuitive, but it's also rather cheeky and lacks refinement (the font used for the text is especially cheap-looking). On the upside, save states are supported and you can drop back to the menu at the touch of a button when you're in any game; there's no lengthy wait to endure, as was the case on the Capcom Home Arcade. Oddly, SNK has decided to cut down the number of bundled games in this new release. While the Neo Geo Mini boasted 40 titles covering a wide range of genres (well, as wide as the Neo Geo's arcade-focused library would allow, at least), the Arcade Stick Pro only has 20 games installed, and they're all fighting titles. Now, this might not seem like an issue when you consider that the Neo Geo was famous for its brawlers, but it does rather limit the appeal of the system. Why willingly omit classics like Metal Slug, Blazing Star, Pulstar, Puzzle Bobble, Shock Troopers, Neo Turf Masters, Soccer Brawl and 2020 Super Baseball when they're readily available to use and could have been included with little effort? And it's also worth pointing out that some of the choices for fighting games are odd; do we really need three versions of World Heroes? Why is the original Samurai Shodown not present? Why do we have just one entry in the Art of Fighting series? As much as we love King of Fighters, six instalments from the same franchise feels like overkill, especially as other games could have introduced a little more variety. SNK Neo Geo Arcade Stick Pro Review: Full Games List THE KING OF FIGHTERS ’95 THE KING OF FIGHTERS ’97 THE KING OF FIGHTERS ’98 THE KING OF FIGHTERS ’99 THE KING OF FIGHTERS 2000 THE KING OF FIGHTERS 2002 FATAL FURY SPECIAL FATAL FURY 3 GAROU: MARK OF THE WOLVES SAMURAI SHODOWN Ⅱ SAMURAI SHODOWN Ⅲ SAMURAI SHODOWN IV SAMURAI SHODOWN Ⅴ SPECIAL ART OF FIGHTING WORLD HEROES 2 WORLD HEROES 2 JET WORLD HEROES PERFECT NINJA MASTER’S THE LAST BLADE 2 KIZUNA ENCOUNTER On the upside, there's no denying that some of the fighters included in the roster are genre classics. Garou: Mark of the Wolves is arguably one of the best of all time, and certainly a shining jewel in the Neo Geo's library. King of Fighters '98 is also utterly fantastic, and it's nice to be able to play games like Kizuna Encounter, The Last Blade 2 and Ninja Master's. Oh, and the versions included here default to the Japanese region setting, so while you have Japanese text, you also have stuff like blood in applicable games and Mai Shiranui's gravity-defying jabber-clackers. Ahem. Some of the games include the option to switch to the English version, but not all of them. Things get even more interesting when you realise that you can use the Arcade Stick Pro as an external controller for your Neo Geo Mini. Hidden away in the base of the stick is a full-size USB cable which, when used with the bundled USB-C adapter, can be plugged into the side of the Mini. That means you can use a superior stick with the Mini's superior library, but you are of course still limited by the system's terrible video output – and playing on the Mini's 3.5-inch screen with a stick this size just feels silly. The USB cable hints at connectivity with other systems, and it is indeed possible to plug the Arcade Stick Pro into your PC and use it with an emulator. However, at the time of writing the stick cannot be used with consoles like the Switch without a special third-party adapter, which costs extra. This is clearly a big selling point as some retailers are already advertising the stick with a special 'Gamelinq' connector which allows it to interface with PS3, PS4 and Switch, but in all honesty, this should be a feature that's available right out of the box. Given that the Arcade Stick Pro has a full-size USB port on the top edge for firmware updates, we'd hope that SNK will enable this function in the near future (and give us some decent scanline filters while it's at it). SNK Neo Geo Arcade Stick Pro Review: Conclusion Like the Neo Geo Mini before it, the Arcade Stick Pro gets almost as much right as it does wrong. On the upside, the clicky stick is gorgeous and the ability to use it as an external controller with the Neo Geo Mini is a bonus. If you're a fan of fighting games then this is going to be very attractive, even if the selection of games is a little limiting. Finally, the promise of being able to use this with consoles like Switch is tantalising. On the negative side, it's almost as if SNK has launched this in an unfinished state with some of its key selling points not present; the screen filters need work and not making it compatible with other consoles right out of the box seems like an oversight. While many of the games included are of a high quality, why do we only have 20 when the Mini offers 40? Still, a few firmware updates down the line and we could have a real contender here. The design is great, the build quality feels good and we're genuinely excited by the fact that this can operate as a stand-alone games console and potentially be one of the best arcade stick controllers available for other systems. If you're a massive SNK fan then you've probably already laid down the cash to get this, but those of you who are on the fence might want to wait to see how the firmware side of things develops in 2020 and beyond. Oh, and if you're rich enough to be making the choice between this and the Capcom Home Arcade, then we'd recommend Capcom's offering in all honesty; while it only has 16 titles to the Arcade Stick Pro's 20, is more expensive and looks rather silly, it also has better controls, online leaderboards and a more agreeable selection of games. Please note that some links on this page are affiliate links, which means if you click them and make a purchase we may receive a small percentage of the sale which helps support the site. Please read our FTC Disclosure for more information. Anthony... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Hi guys, Limited Run Games@LimitedRunGames Nov 19 Fu'un Super Combo finally gets an NA physical release with its Limited Run for the PS4 next Friday, November 29 at 10am & 6pm ET on http://limitedrungames.com. This double-combo features two SNK NEOGEO classics: Kizuna Encounter (designed by our bud @Swery65 ) & Savage Reign. Limited Run #312: Fu'un Super Combo (PS4) $29.99 This product is COMING SOON! This item has not been released. It will be available on Friday, November 29th, 2019 at 10 AM Eastern Time. Fu'un Super Combo on physical disc for the PlayStation 4. Region free. Limited to 3,000 copies available worldwide. This double-combo features two SNK NEOGEO classics: Kizuna Encounter (a sought-after item in video game collecting with scenario design by our bud Swery65) & Savage Reign. There is no purchase limit on this item. You may buy as many copies as you would like. Orders of 30 or more will ship in factory fresh case packs as received from Sony. PLEASE NOTE: This item is currently in manufacturing and will not ship for 1 - 3 months after the date of the initial sale. All orders are considered final and can not be canceled. Anthony.. Edited November 21, 2019 by fdurso224 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Hi guys, SNK GLOBAL @SAMURAI SHODOWN - Available Now!@SNKPofficial 20h Announcement: We are supporting this online tournament via our e-sports support program! #SNK #SAMURAISHODOWN Ronin Rumble XVI: Samurai Shodown Online Tourney Week 16 (Sponsored by Victrix) Ronin Rumble XVI: Samurai Shodown Online Tourney Week 16 (Sponsored by Victrix) smash.gg Anthony... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Hi guys, SNK GLOBAL @SAMURAI SHODOWN - Available Now! @SNKPofficial Anuncio: Estamos dando apoyo a este torneo a través de nuestro programa de ayuda e-sports! #SNK #SAMURAISHODOWN #KOFXIV https://animecon.mx/participa_torneo_kof.php… https://facebook.com/animecon Translated from Spanish by Announcement: We are supporting this tournament through our e-sports support program! #SNK#SAMURAISHODOWN#KOFXIVhttps://animecon.mx/participa_torneo_kof.php…https://facebook.com/animecon 1:38 AM · Nov 21, 2019 Anthony.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Hi guys, SNK GLOBAL @SAMURAI SHODOWN - Available Now! @SNKPofficial Anuncio: Estamos dando apoyo a este torneo a través de nuestro programa de ayuda e-sports! #SNK #SAMURAISHODOWN #KOF2002UM https://facebook.com/events/420055555377521/… Translated from Spanish by Announcement: We are supporting this tournament through our e-sports support program! #SNK#SAMURAISHODOWN#KOF2002UMhttps://facebook.com/events/420055555377521/… 2:19 AM · Nov 21, 2019 Anthony... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Hi guys, SNK GLOBAL @SAMURAI SHODOWN - Available Now! @SNKPofficial 21m Announcement: We are supporting this tournament via our e-sports support program! #SNK #SAMURAISHODOWN https://smash.gg/buttonmasherz https://facebook.com/events/1659829897487534/… Anthony... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Hi guys, ファミ通.com @famitsu 『 #サムライスピリッツ 』Switch向けダウンロード版の予約が開始。早期購入特典は『サムライスピリッツ!2』 https://famitsu.com/news/201911/21187399.html… Translated from Japanese by " #サムライスピリッツ 』Reservation of download version for Switch starts. Early purchase benefits are "Samurai Spirits! 2 '' https://famitsu.com/news/201911/21187399.html… 1:15 AM · Nov 21, 2019 Anthony... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Hi guys, Back with AtariAge member Htaed7 with something really cool for us to watch. It's called the MVSOPS by the fine fellas at "Packs R Us". What is it you say to yourself? Let's find out shall we. Enjoy. From the description, "Special thanks to D. Marti and Nally (of Packs R' Us) for working on this cool "Neo Geo centric" build, and for allowing me to Showcase it here, Great job guys! Now of course no introduccion is needed if you are a long time gamer, arcade dweller of the past (guilty) You already know, played and had heated discussions and throwdowns over Neo Geo/ Games. They have it all: Shmups, Beat em ups, Fighting games (maybe a few, LOL) Racing and even puzzle games to name a few. They were (and still is for many) the Golden standard of the Arcade scene (and for those who could afford it) the home too. This Standalone build was made with the intent of capturing the lineage of the SNK stable, by having all of the games accompanied by the sights and sounds of all the titles we know so well. No setup required, only extract and run the .exe file and you are good to go. There is more coming from the guys at Packs R' Us soon, but that will be another video, thanks for watching and check below for details. For how to download and more information and builds: **Packs R US Discord:https://discord.gg/HNpJ7F2 ** Anthony.. Edited November 21, 2019 by fdurso224 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) It's been a while since I've done anything with real Neo-Geo hardware, so tonight I'll be dabbling with a variety of Neo-Geo CD games over on YouTube. Stream starts at 9PM EST if you feel like joining up. Link: https://www.youtube.com/c/GameplayandTalk/live Edited November 21, 2019 by Austin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Austin said: It's been a while since I've done anything with real Neo-Geo hardware, so tonight I'll be dabbling with a variety of Neo-Geo CD games over on YouTube. Stream starts at 9PM EST if you feel like joining up. Link: https://www.youtube.com/c/GameplayandTalk/live Hey Austin. Thank you for stopping by and letting us know. Will keep this in mind and will do our best to make it on tonight. Anthony... Edited November 21, 2019 by fdurso224 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Hi guys, Shane Bettenhausen @ShaneWatch also hitting PS4 Arcade Archives next week: SNK's 1985 top-down tank shooter,"T.N.K. III" aka "T.A.N.K.," which came before Iron Tank and is the first appearance of cool Ikari bro Ralf Jones 1:24 PM · Nov 19, 2019 Anthony.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Hi guys, Limited Run Games @LimitedRunGames Fu'un Super Combo also gets a Collector's Edition next Friday — the third in our NEOGEO "line-up." The CE includes a commemorative cartridge, art cards, and a custom Shockbox by @Fangamer ! Get ready to grab one from http://limitedrungames.com at 10am or 6pm ET on November 29! 11:14 AM · Nov 19, 2019 Anthony.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Charlie Cat Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 Hi guys, SNK GLOBAL @SAMURAI SHODOWN - Available Now!@SNKPofficial 5h The weapon-based fighter SAMURAI SHODOWN is slated to release in North America during Q1 of 2020 for the Nintendo Switch™ system! #SNK #SamSho #EmbraceDeath #Switch Trailer https://youtu.be/X9T8Xzhy2Cc Anthony... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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