Clint Thompson Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 For those of you whom may be interested....(and may not already know) http://dunkels.com/adam/contiki/ports/index.html Quite interesting! Clint Thompson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 For those of you whom may be interested....(and may not already know) http://dunkels.com/adam/contiki/ports/index.html Quite interesting! Clint Thompson Interesting. Who's doing the port? Does the modem code work with the Jaguar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted March 11, 2003 Author Share Posted March 11, 2003 It says on the page Matthis or Matthias.... Domin... Have no clue? Clint Thompson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaysmith2000 Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 For those of you whom may be interested....(and may not already know) http://dunkels.com/adam/contiki/ports/index.html Quite interesting! Clint Thompson Wow, what the heck? This is going to make JagModems extremely popular. I wonder if Mathias is looking at reproducing the Jagmodems too??? Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 Man, I love it when they figure out how to do things that everyone always thought was impossible. 8-bits on the internet. hahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 It says on the page Matthis or Matthias.... Domin... Have no clue? Clint Thompson Where did it say that? I must have missed a link or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted March 11, 2003 Author Share Posted March 11, 2003 erm, right next to the Atari Jaguar screenshot of the program... The Atari Jaguar port is being developed by Matthias Domin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 Man, I love it when they figure out how to do things that everyone always thought was impossible. 8-bits on the internet. hahaha. Heh... those "8-bits" (computers) are swimming in RAM. About 3 years ago I wrote a TCP/IP stack which has more features and even does packet reassembly (disabled in contiki) and runs in little 8-bit uPs like 68HC11's and PIC uPs... and those things have almost no RAM and tiny 4K ROMS. Not to take anything away from this project... I'm just pointing out that I don't think anyone thought these things were "impossible". If they thought that nobody would have tried it, and nobody would have contracted me to do one for them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 Man, I love it when they figure out how to do things that everyone always thought was impossible. 8-bits on the internet. hahaha. Heh... those "8-bits" (computers) are swimming in RAM. About 3 years ago I wrote a TCP/IP stack which has more features and even does packet reassembly (disabled in contiki) and runs in little 8-bit uPs like 68HC11's and PIC uPs... and those things have almost no RAM and tiny 4K ROMS. Not to take anything away from this project... I'm just pointing out that I don't think anyone thought these things were "impossible". If they thought that nobody would have tried it, and nobody would have contracted me to do one for them... Yep my Atari 130XE 8-bit is 'swimming in RAM it has already 1Mb expanded memory and that's even not enough will be 16Mb sometime.. haha 8x more then the Jaguar..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthias Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 Hi! erm, right next to the Atari Jaguar screenshot of the program... The Atari Jaguar port is being developed by Matthias Domin. Yes, i got the Contiki-source last week from Adam. Porting a text-based GUI written in C to the Jaguar isn't that hard, but implementing a good keyboard replacement is And sometimes i am thinking i should have cared more about using the blitter during the last 7 years... Regards Matthias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthias Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 Man, I love it when they figure out how to do things that everyone always thought was impossible. 8-bits on the internet. hahaha. Heh... those "8-bits" (computers) are swimming in RAM. About 3 years ago I wrote a TCP/IP stack which has more features and even does packet reassembly (disabled in contiki) and runs in little 8-bit uPs like 68HC11's and PIC uPs... and those things have almost no RAM and tiny 4K ROMS. Not to take anything away from this project... I'm just pointing out that I don't think anyone thought these things were "impossible". If they thought that nobody would have tried it, and nobody would have contracted me to do one for them... Sounds like there will be a ScatAmaran Matthias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 I'm puzzled by this. Although it looks very interesting from a technical point of view, what use would it be without a working modem? I thought the UART bugs were so bad it made it impossible to use a standard RS-232 modem with a Jaguar.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future assassin Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 A swif kick to Googles head reveals this for Matthias Domin http://www.google.ca/search?q=Matthias+Dom...le+Search&meta= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3V Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 A swif kick to Googles head reveals this for Matthias Dominhttp://www.google.ca/search?q=Matthias+Domin&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&meta= I believe he just posted two messages above yours too -Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future assassin Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 A swif kick to Googles head reveals this for Matthias Dominhttp://www.google.ca/search?q=Matthias+Domin&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&meta= I believe he just posted two messages above yours too -Kevin Muahahah, Look I woked up about 5 min before I opened the Atariage forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Czarnowski Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 I can say only one thing - this is one of most interesting project recently reveled for Jaguar. I'll keep waiting for this one, and this "scatamaran" idea is extremely cool too! Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztee Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 Hi Guys, Now sorry to appear stupid, but what the heck is contiki anyway??? Is this good for the Jag?? l8r Gaztee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.skid Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 From the home page of the site: "The Contiki desktop environment is a highly portable, modern, open source, Internet-enabled operating system and desktop environment for very small systems written by Adam Dunkels. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindfield Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 It looks like a cool project. I read up on it about a week ago and think it has possibilities for 8-bit machines, certainly. There's a Lynx port in the works, too. Quite cool, but ... how the heck do you hook a Lynx up to the net? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 It looks like a cool project. I read up on it about a week ago and think it has possibilities for 8-bit machines, certainly. There's a Lynx port in the works, too. Quite cool, but ... how the heck do you hook a Lynx up to the net? ComLynx Port. I imagine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted March 13, 2003 Share Posted March 13, 2003 Man, I love it when they figure out how to do things that everyone always thought was impossible. 8-bits on the internet. hahaha. Heh... those "8-bits" (computers) are swimming in RAM. About 3 years ago I wrote a TCP/IP stack which has more features and even does packet reassembly (disabled in contiki) and runs in little 8-bit uPs like 68HC11's and PIC uPs... and those things have almost no RAM and tiny 4K ROMS. Not to take anything away from this project... I'm just pointing out that I don't think anyone thought these things were "impossible". If they thought that nobody would have tried it, and nobody would have contracted me to do one for them... Yep my Atari 130XE 8-bit is 'swimming in RAM it has already 1Mb expanded memory and that's even not enough will be 16Mb sometime.. haha 8x more then the Jaguar..... Thats VERY cool! I'm going to be upgrading my 130XE to 1 meg soon, and my 1040STf is going to get the 4meg treatment as well (not to mention several other upgrades to both!) I'm going to be getting my ST online with MINT/CAB TCP/IP stacker/browser/os setups, but as far as my XE, I thought i'd be stuck with terminal emulation. This Contiki sounds awsome though, and seems to be coming at just the right time! With it and my A.P.E setup, I can have access to my PC modem and hardrive to REALLY push this baby! I'm definately looking forward to browsing the net with my Jag and possibly Lynx too! This is all too cool! maybe it will get ported to the 2600, 5200 and 7800 too! Could you imagine...the 2600 with the supercharger and keyboard running on the net? Maybe it would need a bit of memory added into the Contiki "cart" or something, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted March 13, 2003 Share Posted March 13, 2003 Ultimately I find none of this surprising. Seven years ago when I was starting college, I watched a friend in the dorms access the VAX system at our school using a C-64, 300 baud modem dial-up, and a program he wrote himself. If you can do that, web browsing in plain text is not that big of a step up. I'd be more impressed to actually see them handle simple .jpg and .gif web pages (say Netscape 1.1 complaint). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted March 13, 2003 Share Posted March 13, 2003 Ultimately I find none of this surprising. Seven years ago when I was starting college, I watched a friend in the dorms access the VAX system at our school using a C-64, 300 baud modem dial-up, and a program he wrote himself. If you can do that, web browsing in plain text is not that big of a step up. I'd be more impressed to actually see them handle simple .jpg and .gif web pages (say Netscape 1.1 complaint). Yes, the Jaguar should be able to handle that without any trouble! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted March 13, 2003 Author Share Posted March 13, 2003 I was thinking the same thing TBird... someone should inplement a graphic decoder or all that madness so pics could be viewed too! Clint Thompson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted March 14, 2003 Share Posted March 14, 2003 Ultimately I find none of this surprising. Seven years ago when I was starting college, I watched a friend in the dorms access the VAX system at our school using a C-64, 300 baud modem dial-up, and a program he wrote himself. If you can do that, web browsing in plain text is not that big of a step up. I'd be more impressed to actually see them handle simple .jpg and .gif web pages (say Netscape 1.1 complaint). That was nothing new even 7 or 10 ro more years ago! Terminal emulators have been around for 8 and 16-bit computers of the 70's&80's since the early to mid 80's! When I was in college 10 years ago, I had my Atari 130XE hooked up to the school's main frame with access to VAX, Lynx, WWW (what it was at that itme), and some other sytem that I forget the name of now, with a "kermit" terminal emulation program and 2400 baud modem. The program I used was written for the 48k atari 800 years before that! it was a PD progam too! Atari ST systems have a similiar terminal emulator as a desk accessory to the GEM desktop! it came with the "Start" disk automatically way back when the ST first came out. But this is (Contiki) to access the internet as we know it today! Even if it is just text based like those early terminal emulators, it can access infinately more information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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