Stevaside Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Demon-Attack-Radio-Shack-Tandy-TRS-80-Color-Computer-Game-Cartridge-26-3046-VG-/111410865128?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item19f09ae3e8 ^ C'mon! Almost $100 for it & it's "untested" ?!.....I'm very new to Coco collecting, but please don't tell me that's about right for what this game goes for lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_L Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Well, the cart looks fine, even the label is pristine, and it doesn't appear used much. Honestly, I wouldn't worry so much about "untested", it's probably fine, but it's more about do you want really spend $100 bucks on a CoCo 1/Coco 2 game that's ancient, and honestly, freely available all over the internet? I've got it, and it's a great game, it was a great game on the Atari 2600, and it's a great implementation on CoCo 1/2 hardware, but that cart didn't sell for that much new. Bear in mind, alot of this older stuff is Abandon-ware, and copying it isn't illegal, although in this case, Activision owns the rights to all of iMagic's titles as they bought them when iMagic went under oh so many moons ago. Here's a screenshot: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevaside Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 IDK man, sure the odds are it's fine, but if I'm gonna pay $100 for an old game I better be sure it works (Didn't see if he accepted returns but I've noticed alot of pricey listings that didn't)..The 2600 version is one of my favs & I was impressed by how much better this one looked...It's definitely one of the carts I'd like to add to my new Coco collection but $100 is ridiculous IMO...This is the 1st time I've seen the game for sale anywhere in a couple months, so I'm assuming it isn't all that common, but I'd still like to know exactly how rare it is & if this is kinda the standard rate for it, which I doubt.... & I'm not interested in emulation for it, collecting is my hobby & I don't care if I have to pay a little more than usual for this 1, just def no $100.....Once i put together the library of 30 or so rompaks I really want (I'm up to 19 so far), I plan to buy the tape deck & disk drive, a few more common casstte & floppy games I want...&then I'll look into maybe copying some of the more obscure roms to floppy....I just don't care to play a system I intend to collect for on an emulator for my laptop...MAME is about all I mess with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_L Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 You "mess" with Mame... lol Well, I'd contact the seller and offer $20 bucks... otherwise, they can keep it listed on ebay forever. I don't see why anyone would pay that much for a cartridge, regardless of how rare it is. I can understand wanting to collect the actual carts, but not at such a ridiculous price. Maybe if you wave a $20 under the sellers nose, they might see that they've at least got a taker for it. If anything, another may come down the pike at a more reasonable price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevaside Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) You "mess" with Mame... lol Yep...and I've "messed" with MESS in the past a little too haha Yea I thought of msging him, but don't think he'd be willing to go to $20, which is about all I should really spend right now...Hopefuly someone on here looking for it too can bargain with him to drop it to something reasonable....If let's say I was real close to finishing my goal of 30 carts & that was the only one I needed, I wouldnt mind going up as high as like $40-$50 if I HAD too but at $100, forget it... Some ppl I swear.....Recently I saw someone list a Coco game for $10 & no one wound up bidding on it at all....So what do they do as soon as the listing ends? Put it right back up for $20! hahahaha.....yea, that makes sense =P Edited July 17, 2014 by Stevaside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassGuitari Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 CoCo stuff on eBay is nuts. Once in a while there are some good deals (or at least fair ones), but there's a whole lot of nonsense there.(I'd go $20 max on Demon Attack.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_L Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Recently I saw someone list a Coco game for $10 & no one wound up bidding on it at all....So what do they do as soon as the listing ends? Put it right back up for $20! hahahaha.....yea, that makes sense =P Actually, sometimes it can.. Say you're a cheap ass, and you REALLY REALLY want that $10 game, but you want to pay $5, and you see no bids and it's about to expire. If you let it expire, you wait, and he should logically relist for say, $5, you're goal purchase price, however, sellers will sometimes jack the price so you'll go OMG, and grab it real quick before he realizes how bad you want it, so it'll prompt you to buy it before he raises the price again. I actually made a $560 profit for a friend once on Second Life. He owned about 1/4 of a sim, and he noticed for sale parcels around the sim started to disappear, upon further inspection, he noticed that it was the same entity buying up the lots. I told him the guy was trying to buy up the whole sim, and that he should list his land for an outrageous price and he'll buy it. The land was worth about $20,000 "Linden dollars", or about $80 bucks, I told him to list it for $100,000 Linden dollars, about $320 dollars US. He said the guy would never go for it, so I talked him into listing it since if he wasn't going to buy it, it wouldn't matter, so he did. About 3 days go by, and he tells me that it hasn't moved yet.... so I told him, Double it. List it for $200,000, or $640 US. He laughed and said that the guy would never go for it. I had to literally beg him, but I managed to get him to change the listing, and the guy bought it 5 minutes later.... he knew the jig was up and that my friend the seller knew he really wanted that land, so the guy cut his losses and blew all that cash because I got him worried we'd double the price again. So, on a similar level, I think that might be what that seller was going for... trying to get someone to jump because they see the price going up... not down. It works. I did pretty well when I was in my Real Estate phase in Second Life. I built and sold both a Mall and a Casino, made a few bucks along the way too... My love of vintage arcade games spilling over into Second Life... Edited July 18, 2014 by John_L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerG Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 CoCo stuff is expensive right now. For years you couldn't give the carts away, now the prices are all over the place. I'd wait, it will calm back down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevaside Posted July 19, 2014 Author Share Posted July 19, 2014 Actually, sometimes it can.. Say you're a cheap ass, and you REALLY REALLY want that $10 game, but you want to pay $5, and you see no bids and it's about to expire. If you let it expire, you wait, and he should logically relist for say, $5, you're goal purchase price, however, sellers will sometimes jack the price so you'll go OMG, and grab it real quick before he realizes how bad you want it, so it'll prompt you to buy it before he raises the price again. I know what you mean, but in this case I messaged him & asked why he put it up to $20 & told him that I would be willing to pay around $10 for it like he originally listed...He replied that he would switch it back, which he did..I bid $10 at the beginning of the listing & wound up winning it for just that, not one other bid haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevaside Posted July 19, 2014 Author Share Posted July 19, 2014 CoCo stuff is expensive right now. For years you couldn't give the carts away, now the prices are all over the place. I'd wait, it will calm back down. Me & my bad timing Well it hasn't been too bad..I've managed to get a couple small lots for great prices & now have 19 out of the 30 carts on my want list...Most of the games left on it (carts anyway) I've seen go for usually no more for $10 or so aside from Demon Attack & Rampage...just a matter of waiting around for them to pop up on Ebay again....... Man what I would do to go back in time & start collecting Atari games in the early 90s compared to the late 90's tho! haha...Still a hell of alot easier then nowadays at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_ Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Me & my bad timing Well it hasn't been too bad..I've managed to get a couple small lots for great prices & now have 19 out of the 30 carts on my want list...Most of the games left on it (carts anyway) I've seen go for usually no more for $10 or so aside from Demon Attack & Rampage...just a matter of waiting around for them to pop up on Ebay again....... Man what I would do to go back in time & start collecting Atari games in the early 90s compared to the late 90's tho! haha...Still a hell of alot easier then nowadays at least Take that $100 and invest in a disk system and play anything you want! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevaside Posted July 19, 2014 Author Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) Take that $100 and invest in a disk system and play anything you want! hahaha, thats all I seem to keep hearing around here....I enjoy collecting as a hobby.......I'm not out to get every possible game for the Coco I can get my hands on, Ive narrowed it down to 30 cartridges I really want for my library & I'm already pretty close....THEN I will most likely get a disk drive & copy some of the other games out there that Id have a rare chance of finding (Which seems like a damn good percentage of them) ...and when that day comes, I want that same official Tandy storage box you have BTW, nice Edited July 19, 2014 by Stevaside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassGuitari Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 ....I enjoy collecting as a hobby.......I'm not out to get every possible game for the Coco I can get my hands on, Ive narrowed it down to 30 cartridges I really want for my library & I'm already pretty close....THEN I will most likely get a disk drive & copy some of the other games out there that Id have a rare chance of finding (Which seems like a damn good percentage of them) Slightly off topic here, but I think that's a very healthy way to approach collecting. Speaking from experience, trying to get everything/anything you don't have in your collection just burns you out after a while, in more ways than one. You end up with a lot of stuff you really don't care about (which takes up a lot of space and can be hard to sell off without giving it away), and in constantly hunting for new stuff you tend not to take as much time to enjoy what you already have. I'm in the same boat you are with the CoCo. I have a list of specific titles I want to get (in my case, most of the TRS-80/Radio Shack-label CoCo1/2 cart games). I have about 25 or 30 cartridges, a few choice tapes I copied from .wav files (can't get much more old-school than tapes!), and DriveWire for everything else. (And I, too, want one of those TRS-80 Program Pak cases. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevaside Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) Slightly off topic here, but I think that's a very healthy way to approach collecting. Speaking from experience, trying to get everything/anything you don't have in your collection just burns you out after a while, in more ways than one. You end up with a lot of stuff you really don't care about (which takes up a lot of space and can be hard to sell off without giving it away), and in constantly hunting for new stuff you tend not to take as much time to enjoy what you already have. I'm in the same boat you are with the CoCo. I have a list of specific titles I want to get (in my case, most of the TRS-80/Radio Shack-label CoCo1/2 cart games). I have about 25 or 30 cartridges, a few choice tapes I copied from .wav files (can't get much more old-school than tapes!), and DriveWire for everything else. (And I, too, want one of those TRS-80 Program Pak cases. ) Yea man...The 7800 is the only system I plan to complete some day, which shouldn't be too much of a problem with it's small library & availability.....Along with it, I originally began collecting for the 2600..& although we all know it's impossible to complete it, a LONG TERM goal of mine is to come as close as I can within reason, most likely ignoring the extremely & outrageously rare games....In all honesty, I'm finding it increasingly harder to get into playing 2600 games aside from a select few. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't more of a collector than player for it. Everything else I collect I have want lists made up of pretty much just the games I know from experience or conclude from research are worth playing, or have some nostalgia factor associated with it. In other words, if I can afford it at the time & I run into some games in the wild...If it's a 2600/7800 game I don't have I'll pick it up, any other system only if it's something I really want/will wind up playing.....The big picture for my non-Atari goals is having a nice media tower displayed with what I think are the best group of games for multiple systems...Of course I could just say to hell with that, I'm gonna download all the roms for free...or just get a cuttle cart, etc...but then I'd probably be on an emulation forum, not here talking about games I WANT to purchase for my classic game COLLECTING hobby lol & I can't wait to get the tape deck someday, I've never played a game from cassette before haha....One of the sellers I dealt with recently was nice enough to throw in Zaxxon as a bonus too, so even more reason I want to get one soon. & yea hording or not, I can already tell the Coco is a system that's very unrealistic to expect to build up a big library for, so many of the games just too obscure... Edited July 20, 2014 by Stevaside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Slightly off topic here, but I think that's a very healthy way to approach collecting. Speaking from experience, trying to get everything/anything you don't have in your collection just burns you out after a while, in more ways than one. You end up with a lot of stuff you really don't care about (which takes up a lot of space and can be hard to sell off without giving it away), and in constantly hunting for new stuff you tend not to take as much time to enjoy what you already have. I'm in the same boat you are with the CoCo. I have a list of specific titles I want to get (in my case, most of the TRS-80/Radio Shack-label CoCo1/2 cart games). I have about 25 or 30 cartridges, a few choice tapes I copied from .wav files (can't get much more old-school than tapes!), and DriveWire for everything else. (And I, too, want one of those TRS-80 Program Pak cases. ) I'm definitely shifting to a more concentrated way of collecting, just games I like and play. No more "buy anything and everything" shelf filler for me. I'm in the process of selling a lot of games. In the case of the coco though, I've only sold a couple of carts I don't play. I'm keeping 99% of what I have. Reason is simple - coco stuff is going to be a hell of a lot harder to replace down the road. Atari, NES, Genesis, etc can all be easily obtained, more or less. The coco however is going to get harder and harder to find. Anyone know how many Coco 3's Cloud9 has left from the pallets Mark had in the beginning? I thought it was under a hundred a couple years back and with the rise in interest in the coco, he may be out before we know it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_ Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I'm definitely shifting to a more concentrated way of collecting, just games I like and play. No more "buy anything and everything" shelf filler for me. I'm in the process of selling a lot of games. In the case of the coco though, I've only sold a couple of carts I don't play. I'm keeping 99% of what I have. Reason is simple - coco stuff is going to be a hell of a lot harder to replace down the road. Atari, Anyone know how many Coco 3's Cloud9 has left from the pallets Mark had in the beginning? I thought it was under a hundred a couple years back and with the rise in interest in the coco, he may be out before we know it. I had heard a couple of years ago that he sold all the NOS coco3 systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I bought one back in the fall with the trios upgrade but maybe it wasn't NOS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevaside Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) I'm definitely shifting to a more concentrated way of collecting, just games I like and play. No more "buy anything and everything" shelf filler for me. I'm in the process of selling a lot of games. In the case of the coco though, I've only sold a couple of carts I don't play. I'm keeping 99% of what I have. Reason is simple - coco stuff is going to be a hell of a lot harder to replace down the road. Atari, NES, Genesis, etc can all be easily obtained, more or less. The coco however is going to get harder and harder to find. If I'm not mistaken you collect for multiple systems, Atari Leaf...does the same go for the Atari as well?? When I started out I wanted to get everything I could find...Now after a long break I'm realizing I'm close to 200 carts & want to reach that & then slow down for a while, but eventually down the road build another hundred or so more.. I gotta say the motivation to get every single game I can find isn't the same nowadays...& I think ALOT of that has to do with the fact it was so much easier to find games out in the wild in the 90s when I started...Gone is the thrill of stopping by that thrift store to see if I'll find something I don't have & what will it be, because at least in Central Florida, I haven't seen SHIT in years, after stopping by tons of different stores across several counties..When I started, alot of videogame stores still had boxes full of em for $1 a piece because they just wanted to get rid of em...Now we have Play N Trade & hobby stores who all know their shit & price accordingly lol Edited July 20, 2014 by Stevaside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 ... & I can't wait to get the tape deck someday, I've never played a game from cassette before haha....One of the sellers I dealt with recently was nice enough to throw in Zaxxon as a bonus too, so even more reason I want to get one soon. & yea hording or not, I can already tell the Coco is a system that's very unrealistic to expect to build up a big library for, so many of the games just too obscure... Keep a lookout for Pooyan as well. It's a pretty decent version. If you see a copy of Spectral Associates Space Compilation (something like that) it has a bunch of their better games on a single cassette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevaside Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share Posted July 20, 2014 Keep a lookout for Pooyan as well. It's a pretty decent version. If you see a copy of Spectral Associates Space Compilation (something like that) it has a bunch of their better games on a single cassette. Whats up there James? Yep, that's already on my want list Was suprised at how nice of a port it looked like, saw a clip on YT recently Thanks for the heads up on that 1 too, they seem to have made some decent games for the COCO that company from what I remember reading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 If I'm not mistaken you collect for multiple systems, Atari Leaf...does the same go for the Atari as well?? I'm actually in the process of getting rid of a lot of Atari stuff as well. Already sold a bunch of games and am in the process of making some system lots to sell. Don't need 22 Atari's By the time I'm done I'm looking at keeping about 65 Atari 2600 games, 15 7800 games, and maybe 30 or so Atari 8-bit carts. Extra NES games are gone, some Genesis stuff is going, extra TG-16 games are gone. Quite a bit actually . . . but the coco stuff is staying intact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Keep a lookout for Pooyan as well. It's a pretty decent version. If you see a copy of Spectral Associates Space Compilation (something like that) it has a bunch of their better games on a single cassette. I've been on the lookout for a pooyan cassette. Love that game. I have the pooyan manual from a coco lot I got years ago but no game unfortunately. Never heard of the SA compilation cassette, sounds interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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