7800 #101 Posted December 19, 2014 I'm sure even a post from Curt every now and then, even if there is nothing to report would go a long way and make people put away the torches and pitchforks. Right now... it just seems like he doesn't care, but I'm sure he does, he's just fed up with the negative comments. The thing is, all forums are laced with negativity... he shouldn't let it bother him. Just a quick post telling everyone that he has or hasn't been working on it for whatever reason... would go a long way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atari181 #102 Posted December 19, 2014 I'm sure even a post from Curt every now and then, even if there is nothing to report would go a long way and make people put away the torches and pitchforks. Right now... it just seems like he doesn't care, but I'm sure he does, he's just fed up with the negative comments. The thing is, all forums are laced with negativity... he shouldn't let it bother him. Just a quick post telling everyone that he has or hasn't been working on it for whatever reason... would go a long way. LOL, you a funny guy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dauber #103 Posted December 19, 2014 FWIW, he did post an update on Facebook tonite. In short, he said: - No refunds, said so from the beginning. - Looks like it'll be spring now before anything major happens. Normally I'd be ultra-pissed, but given 1) his ongoing health issues, 2) that his partner quit and he's doing this by himself with occasional outside help, 3) the Atari 7800 market is a tiny hobbyist market anyway, and 4) we know this thing is definitely in progress -- the XM was demoed at a recent show, right?....I'm willing to wait a while longer. Yeah, I paid for this like four years ago and my card was charged at the time (although the law states the product must ship within 30 days of receipt of payment), but hey, I've waited longer for other stuff. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Loguidice #104 Posted December 19, 2014 ... but hey, I've waited longer for other stuff. Just curious... What stuff? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jinks #105 Posted December 19, 2014 Eventually, enough people will vent here and then Curt will post a minor non-update, along with "I can't believe the negativity" or words to that effect, then the thread will be locked.Well all we ever asked for was updates now and then. That was promised a dozen times. Obviously communication has been almost zero. We were never asking for the world. So when the negative comments come back about how we are so impatient we all will not be surprised. Even mice could figure out the pattern. Maybe we need cheese? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toiletunes #106 Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) FWIW, he did post an update on Facebook tonite. In short, he said: - Looks like it'll be spring now before anything major happens. I'd say I've heard that too many times over the past four years to believe it, but I'm no longer financially tied to this product. As such, I see no need to post any further negative frustrations. FWIW, I re-spent my investment money at the Atariage store and on other vintage videogame goodies- It's going to be a very Merry Christmas at Casa Toiletunes this year. Best of luck to the remaining supporters. Edited December 19, 2014 by toiletunes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retrok7 #108 Posted December 19, 2014 I too would be happy to buy out a pre-order if anyone else would like to surrender one. Just send me a notice. Thanks Kurt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Random Terrain #109 Posted December 19, 2014 Screen Shot 2014-12-18 at 9.56.07 PM.png Weird. Doesn't seem to match up with these posts: atariage.com/forums/topic/222984-atari-7800xm-35-years-later-where-is-it/?p=2945437 atariage.com/forums/topic/218921-xm-any-chance-it-will-be-in-our-hands-by-christmas/?p=2876885 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stephen #110 Posted December 19, 2014 Wow - this just keeps getting worse and worse. Between this, and my VBXE2 fiasco (as well as an SIO2PC unit), I'll never pre-order anything here again. More than 3 years and over $350 in cash, and nothing from a few individuals so far. Nothing large at all in the grand scheme of things, but the only people who will get my money from now on are people who are actively shipping product. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stephen #111 Posted December 19, 2014 Weird. Doesn't seem to match up with these posts: atariage.com/forums/topic/222984-atari-7800xm-35-years-later-where-is-it/?p=2945437 atariage.com/forums/topic/218921-xm-any-chance-it-will-be-in-our-hands-by-christmas/?p=2876885 You expect any truth or kept promises for this anymore? I might as well have brought a bridge in Arizona. Or spent the money on my Shelby Z Daytona (: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jinks #112 Posted December 19, 2014 I too would be happy to buy out a pre-order if anyone else would like to surrender one. Just send me a notice. Thanks KurtOk if you buy and have nothing in 2018 would you still be cool and calm?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtariBrian #113 Posted December 19, 2014 Ok if you buy and have nothing in 2018 would you still be cool and calm?? Actually it would be 2019 ... maybe later Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dauber #114 Posted December 19, 2014 Just curious... What stuff? I'll put it to you this way: I was an Amiga user for thirteen years. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldSchoolRetroGamer #115 Posted December 19, 2014 I'll put it to you this way: I was an Amiga user for thirteen years. Say no more, constant slipped dates and broken promises for product, I lived through years of it myself, loved the machine but HATED the management. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7800 #116 Posted December 19, 2014 For those bringing up "fraud" ... I do recall seeing pics and videos of Curt showing off boxes of the custom casings, boards and nameplates for the XM. So I wouldn't call this a case of fraud. If anything, I'd say that the whole adventure has been mishandled --- Maybe he shouldn't have given any specific time frames for people to look forward to only to say, "sorry, the XM still isn't ready and will not be available as promised... maybe next year." But Fraud? I think that's extreme at this point. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Usotsuki #117 Posted December 19, 2014 Fraud implies intentional... pretty sure any issues with the XM aren't intentional. Still sucks though 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serious #118 Posted December 19, 2014 I'm still willing to buy out one more person's pre-order, if the price is right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tep392 #119 Posted December 19, 2014 I'm still willing to buy out one more person's pre-order, if the price is right. You won't get mine. My gut tells me that Curt is going to deliver on this in Spring as promised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rhomaios #120 Posted December 19, 2014 You won't get mine. My gut tells me that Curt is going to deliver on this in Spring as promised. I hope so, and more. I'd like to grab one so I can finally play your Donkey Kong! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atari181 #121 Posted December 19, 2014 For those bringing up "fraud" ... I do recall seeing pics and videos of Curt showing off boxes of the custom casings, boards and nameplates for the XM. So I wouldn't call this a case of fraud. If anything, I'd say that the whole adventure has been mishandled --- Maybe he shouldn't have given any specific time frames for people to look forward to only to say, "sorry, the XM still isn't ready and will not be available as promised... maybe next year." But Fraud? I think that's extreme at this point. Fraud may be the wrong term, however, it is been more than a "reasonable time". I would be willing to bet my house that any judge would also agree. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Random Terrain #122 Posted December 19, 2014 Fraud may be the wrong term, however, it is been more than a "reasonable time". I would be willing to bet my house that any judge would also agree. A bunch of you guys could get together and appear on Judge Judy. I mean on her show, not on her, unless she's into that. Speaking of Judge Judy, remember that special episode where she got all dressed up and sang a song with Bea Arthur? youtube.com/watch?v=bU_O-3Ys1S0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU_O-3Ys1S0 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+bennybingo #123 Posted December 19, 2014 Did I happen to mention that...... ...I like turtles! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7800 #124 Posted December 20, 2014 I highlighted the space in between... and didn't see any hidden messages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jinks #125 Posted December 20, 2014 Ok not a peep till the end of spring 2015 ok guys? Then we can chirp again... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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