ballyalley Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I'm looking for an Atari 8-Bit hex editor. I want the hex editor to run under DOS 2.0s and 64K. I'm having trouble finding such a program using the "hex editor" search term. The following link is an example, for MS Windows, of what I think of as a typical "hex editor:" http://HxD - Freeware Hex Editor So, basically, I want this type of program for the Atari. Is the correct term that I'm looking for a "sector editor?" I thought those types of programs were only for examing sectors on a disk. Is a sector editor the actual program that I'm looking for? If so, then I guess the following posting is already the perfect link: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/219961-atari-8-bit-sector-editor-wanted/ I'm just looking for something simple to learn-- I don't think it needs many features. Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelmischief Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I've always used "Disk Wizard II" for my sector editing needs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlight_mile Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I've always used "Disk Wizard II" for my sector editing needs. I spent a whole weekend repair the directory on my crashed 10 meg hard drive with DWII! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Lots of backup alternatives, especially if you have APE or AspeQt. There are also lots of good sector editors, but I also normally use DWII. Mostly because it does DD and resides nicely as a file on my HDs. -Larry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Sorry, double post somehow from my phone. -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballyalley Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 I've always used "Disk Wizard II" for my sector editing needs. These replies have been about sector editors-- which is fine, as I probaby need one of these too, but it's not exactly what I'm looking for... I don't think. From these replies thus far I take it that that "hex editor" and "sector editor" are interchangeable phrases on the Atari 8-bit. Is that correct? To give a little more detail of what I expect of a hex editor: I want to look at what resides in RAM. Do sectors editors allow that? Am I confused here...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 What you want is omnimonXL if you have an Xl/XE and it is called a resident machine language monitor. you can read/change memory while program is running and also sector edit ect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madi Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) Your best pick is OMNIMON XL Have a look at a nice discussion on Stand alone monitors .. LINK madi Edited September 26, 2014 by Madi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
re-atari Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 There are also lots of good sector editors, but I also normally use DWII. Mostly because it does DD and resides nicely as a file on my HDs. -Larry DWII is a great sector editor, my first choice as well. Those of us with stock 1050's beware though, it can't handle enhanced density disks. 720 sectors is the max., either in single or in double density. re-atari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bob1200xl Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 ?? DWII will read up to something like 9999 sectors, SD or DD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1050 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 These replies have been about sector editors-- which is fine, as I probaby need one of these too, but it's not exactly what I'm looking for... I don't think. From these replies thus far I take it that that "hex editor" and "sector editor" are interchangeable phrases on the Atari 8-bit. Is that correct? To give a little more detail of what I expect of a hex editor: I want to look at what resides in RAM. Do sectors editors allow that? Am I confused here...? Hex editor works mainly on files and some monitor programs will do this as part of their features. Omnimon has such features along with Bug/65. They read memory mostly and show contents of same, which can be made to be read in files very easily for such direct observation. DDT also a popular one to try. A sector editor could be made to do the same if you made a file of the memory you want to look at and then use the sector editor on that file. But they are NOT the same thing even when they can display the information in a similar manner. So not really interchangeable phrases to begin with, don't think there was ever a true PC type hex editor for the 8 bit that I can think of. But so many monitors can be made to do the same work that there would be no real need for such a beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 ?? DWII will read up to something like 9999 sectors, SD or DD. Hi Bob- I'll bet you are thinking about Disk Wiz II (not Disk Wizard II). (?) -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 There are some disk-based programs that allow you to examine and edit a file in memory. These were not true monitors as others mention. There was also a program that allowed you to read an entire SD disk into expanded memory and then edit it that way (can't remember its name right now). But the best of the best is Omnimon XL, if you can put it into rom. -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcamp48 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 I am looking for something that will display text in the sector in decimal format, is there a program out there that will do that and it edeally should be dome in basic Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGB1718 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Not that I know of, would be difficult to display the information in 40 characters 2 characters for line + 3*8 characters for decimal number+9 spaces already @35 characters and you would need another 8 characters to display each "character". You could obviously do it with less than 8 per line but then you may not be able to display a complete sector on screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGB1718 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 @rcamp48 this will just display a chosen sector in decimal, you can see the problem trying to display in 40 column. READSECT.BAS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMil Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 What type of computer are you using? DavidMil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcamp48 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I am using an 800xl, but I am actually going to do this on a PC with qb64, that way I can display 80 cols, what I want to do is display the decimal number as a character, I can read the file from the Fujinet directly, and it will be easier that way., I just want to display all of the team data in Hardball and make changes to it maybe from my editor program. Here is the hardball editor program anyways for 35 years ago: Hardball-Team-Editor.atr Hardball-Team-Editor-Docs.atr HardBall (1985)(Accolade)(US)[cr Captain Wizard].atr And a video that shows you how to use it Announcing_the_Hardball_Team_Editor.mp4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 what video, don't play for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible kid Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Either it's fixed or it is a regional thing, I was able to play just now in NJ,US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) cleared the cash, tried repeatedly... it was timing out but finally got a picture... must be a serving issue. continues with network errors Edited September 29, 2021 by _The Doctor__ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible kid Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Yeah, it seems to take a bit to get going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokeypy Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) From 1984, I remember a program called "Disk Sherlock" we used. Was pretty good. Was the first time, I came in contact with Hex. Anybody else remembering that program? Edited September 29, 2021 by Pokeypy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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