+stephena Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 S. You mean a blit operation vs flip operation? Essentially, yes. Some drivers implement v'sync with a busy-wait, burning time until the 16.7 ms is up. Others simply switch to another back-buffer and return immediately (page-flipping). This is outside the control of Stella, so I can't fix it on my end. But I know how long the emulation is taking, typically 1-2 ms per frame. Anything else is inefficiencies in the drivers. This is of course on newer hardware. The further you go back in time, the slower the hardware/video card, and the more time that emulation takes. But I can't imagine stressing any system made in the past 10+ years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 encouraging StarDust to do the same thing; he was the one down for OPP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYSjijd57c0 Can't deny classic hip hop. Since you decided to namedrop me specifically, yes, I am "down for OPP" and proud of it. The rest of your post I have deleted and does not warrant a response. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr SQL Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Programmers can't deny programatic examples but you are not a programmer, so why get gangsta calling 80's programmers pirates and trolls claiming you know how long it takes to write compilers and runtimes? Most expert programmers don't even know! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangentg Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Desert Bus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Desert Bus? Do people actually play this for fun? I had an opportunity to order it at one time and passed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Do people actually play this for fun? I had an opportunity to order it at one time and passed. I didn't think that was a game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+groundtrooper Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I didn't think that was a game. Isn't DB more of a "Simulation"? I saw one for sale here and was curious because I had never heard of it. A quick google lead me to a couple of game play videos/reviews. I decided that it wasn't worth $65 which was what it was being sold for. Pass on that one. The cause it was originally done for was great. But at this point buying from a 3rd party doesn't seem worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarilovesyou Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I have zero clue wtf the majority of you are going on about. Yes, I guess it sucks that there are limited amounts of homebrew games out there for the Atari. So it goes. Is there anything else that really needs to be said? It's like someone is whining about not getting some ice cream because the truck drove away. "B-b-b-b-b-but...I didn't get any ICE CREAM!!!" Jesus, even I can't handle all the whineage in this thread, and that's saying something 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Isn't DB more of a "Simulation"? I saw one for sale here and was curious because I had never heard of it. A quick google lead me to a couple of game play videos/reviews. I decided that it wasn't worth $65 which was what it was being sold for. Pass on that one. The cause it was originally done for was great. But at this point buying from a 3rd party doesn't seem worth it. Dang! I have to come clean here and admit that I own a copy of DB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+groundtrooper Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Dang! I have to come clean here and admit that I own a copy of DB. Ha Ha! OK sramirez2008 now I have to look at you in a new light. Did you get it during the initial offering (charity) or from someone else? I live in PHX. So I am already at the 1/3rd point of the sim. While I haven't driven from Tucson to Vegas, I have driven from PHX to LV but not driving a bus and it is not a bad drive, I guess I have done it too many times, but adding the 2 more hours from Tucson in another story. Meh I don't really care for Tucson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Dang! I have to come clean here and admit that I own a copy of DB.So, how often (and long) did you play it? Compared with other games? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 So, how often (and long) did you play it? Compared with other games? I doubt much. It is an excercize in futility. Paddle control would have been neat though, with a seed that fluctuates so you have to micro-adjust your position to stay on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Andrew Davie Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 http://whatever.scalzi.com/2013/04/15/apologies-what-when-and-how/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Paddle control would have been neat though, with a seed that fluctuates so you have to micro-adjust your position to stay on the road.No occasional corners? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr SQL Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I have zero clue wtf the majority of you are going on about. Yes, I guess it sucks that there are limited amounts of homebrew games out there for the Atari. So it goes. Is there anything else that really needs to be said? It's like someone is whining about not getting some ice cream because the truck drove away. "B-b-b-b-b-but...I didn't get any ICE CREAM!!!" Jesus, even I can't handle all the whineage in this thread, and that's saying something X2! Just a few folk consistently making emotional, frustrated venting badmouth posts in lieu of discussion. That’s exactly the way a gal with PMS would act, knock it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Ha Ha! OK sramirez2008 now I have to look at you in a new light. Did you get it during the initial offering (charity) or from someone else? I live in PHX. So I am already at the 1/3rd point of the sim. While I haven't driven from Tucson to Vegas, I have driven from PHX to LV but not driving a bus and it is not a bad drive, I guess I have done it too many times, but adding the 2 more hours from Tucson in another story. Meh I don't really care for Tucson. It gets worse, I got it after the initial offering. I keep it around to remind myself that I should always put some time into researching a game before buying it. I literally played it once and not for too long, before I had to just stop and put it away. I like to buy games to play them, so I keep telling myself that I should try to run through the marathon, but I haven't been able to find the time to do so. For now, its another item on the bucket list, but down on the list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 It gets worse, I got it after the initial offering. I keep it around to remind myself that I should always put some time into researching a game before buying it. I literally played it once and not for too long, before I had to just stop and put it away. I like to buy games to play them, so I keep telling myself that I should try to run through the marathon, but I haven't been able to find the time to do so. For now, its another item on the bucket list, but down on the list. LOL. I saw some video on youtube once where a couple guys taking turns made it to the end of desert bus on Sega CD, then forgot to hit start to begin the next track on their journey... Seriously though, the game is like eight hours of driving a crooked bus where you tap left or right occasionally to correct the steering. Should be simple enought that an arduino with a light sensor could make the needed corrections. No need for fancy AI... http://atariage.com/forums/topic/266695-microsofts-ai-just-shattered-the-ms-pac-man-high-score/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 No occasional corners? Sadly, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Innit Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Sadly, no. Blimey! The Romans would be proud. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I just checked the web: the world's longest road with no curves or kinks is Highway 10 in Saudi-Arabia and 162 miles long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_79 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Some features had to be sacrified because of the hardware limitations. They could implement curves or the horn activated by the joystick, not both. I think they made the right choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I think I could create a (much shorter!) trip during a boring afternoon or too. Maybe even with curves and horns. For a longer trip I would need longer of course (play testing!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonie Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I have zero clue wtf the majority of you are going on about. Yes, I guess it sucks that there are limited amounts of homebrew games out there for the Atari. So it goes. Is there anything else that really needs to be said? It's like someone is whining about not getting some ice cream because the truck drove away. "B-b-b-b-b-but...I didn't get any ICE CREAM!!!" Jesus, even I can't handle all the whineage in this thread, and that's saying something Heh... "Whineage" LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Got bored and created a nice and simple desert road effect from playfield graphics only. Watch it accelerate to super sonic speed! Desert Road (v0.01).bin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hizzy Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 A few years ago, I would have shared your arguments. But since the existence of Harmony, the sales of homebrews has dropped significantly. So there are quite a lot of people who just want the ROM and don't care for the developer. That was pretty surprising for me. For me the main problem here is not the money, but the lack of feedback. I don't know how many people really like my games. That's also the reason why I would never limit the sales of my games (unless I am forced to do so). But also not enough reason not to release my ROMs in the future. This made me so sad to read that I just bought two homebrews from the AA store. I appreciate being able to buy new games for the favorite system of my youth. Thank you to everyone who makes these awesome games! For the record, I picked up Haunted Adventure Trilogy, because I am an Adventure junkie, and Seawolf. Seawolf is addictive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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