+bob1200xl Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 "Computer Program" in my cart has a 162 in 43234. My cart does not work, however. It has two 4K ROMs in it. Bob This is my theory - although we really need to hear from someone with the cartridge to confirm it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterpiggle Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 You need to clean the pins with cleaner or with eraser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Here's a few data points. My basic cartridge looks like the center "computing language" cart and peek(43234) gives me 162= rev A. So based on the previous post, I would say the label will not tell you which version ROM it has. My 800XL give me 234= rev C. edit: Here are ROMS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 This same question came up about 2-3 years ago. I think the conclusion then was that B carts were not produced by Atari. "B" versus "C" -- been there; done that too, with a good discussion (2010): http://atariage.com/forums/topic/166943-atari-basic-b-better-than-c/?hl=+basic -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr0tki Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Let's see what the press said back in the day: Antic, June 1984 claims only revs A and C were published on cartridge. Antic, May 1985 says Bill Wilkinson got a review copy of rev. B in cartridge form from Atari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Possibly the B carts were just proto/review copies. But surely there should be people here who have complete 1200XL systems from new and could check theirs (not that many of us keep the bundled stuff together all this time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bob1200xl Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 AFIK, the 1200XL did not come with a BASIC cart. I don't remember getting a cart with mine... Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 AFIK, the 1200XL did not come with a BASIC cart. I don't remember getting a cart with mine... Bob I didn't buy one new back then, but I would have been very surprised if Inc. had included BASIC for free - after all, to get BASIC with my 400 and 800 back then, I had to buy the Programmer Kit as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Westphal Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Mine is a silver label " atari basic " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillC Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Mine is a silver label " atari basic " Should be Revision C then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I have a few Basic carts, I will check them out and report back. Grey label XL style label is gonna be C right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobus Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 All my I have a few Basic carts, I will check them out and report back. Grey label XL style label is gonna be C right? Yes I would think so. Both of the silver variations that I have are rev C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) I didn't know why this was happening until I figured out it was something different with 'C' that was causing the fuji to seperate. Nope. Line 50 of the "LOGO" program contains an extra :PRINT at the end...so naturally it would skip a line regardless of the Basic rev. used during execution. Edited November 21, 2014 by Nukey Shay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I finally got back to this... I download Atari Hangman from Atarimania and tried it with revision A, B, C. See pics. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Nope. Line 50 of the "LOGO" program contains an extra :PRINT at the end...so naturally it would skip a line regardless of the Basic rev. used during execution. That's weird. Why would they do that? If it was a typo how did it get past Atari? This logo was used on a ton of programs. I see Rev. A displays the logo properly even with the statement, but that still seems like a big bug to let slip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Didn't a certain control code (Ctrl+R?) inadvertently act like a semicolon after the print statement in some revisions? Not sure if that has anything to do with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr0tki Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) Control+R and Control+U. Yes, that's the issue. Edited December 15, 2014 by Kr0tki 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Neat...didn't know that (never paid much attention to the native gfx characters). So a semicolon could be added before the :PRINT on that line so it will work for all 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorfdbg Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Control+R and Control+U. Yes, that's the issue. That's indeed a known bug in Rev.A. Due to the origin of TurboBasic, it is also a known bug there. I made a fix for this (and a couple of other issues) ages ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) That's indeed a known bug in Rev.A. Due to the origin of TurboBasic, it is also a known bug there. I made a fix for this (and a couple of other issues) ages ago. You fixed that bug in TurboBasic? Was it the last version of TurboBasic? If so put the next higher revision number on it and spread it around the world! Edited December 16, 2014 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I thought there was a flag in TBXL to turn the emulated bug on and off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) So it's an emulated bug to make things work properly, not a real bug.... I never had a real manual... if that's the case then TurboBasic is that much cooler. I would wish for default as bug-emu off... maybe he reversed default bug on to off in his fix? Edited December 16, 2014 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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