TRS-80 Model 4 Wanted

[Tempest]

Does anyone have a TRS-80 Model 4 for sale/trade? Preferably one with the B&W monitor and non-clustered arrow keys. Also being close to the Etheral Plane of Atrii (err... Michigan) would be nice to save on shipping costs.

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Would a Model 2 suffice?

[Tempest]

Would a Model 2 suffice?

Sadly no. The Model 2 isn't compatible with any Model I, III, or 4 software. The Model 2 is purely a business computer.

 

BTW on a side note, I finally know where your avatar is from! I caught the end of Eraserhead on TV the other night.

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Perhaps it's the Model 1 that I have. Did Model 2 come with built-in floppy drives because mine does not? It did, however, come with the B&W monitor and non-clustered arrow keys. Still in the original box (which would surprise no one, I'll bet).

 

As for Eraserhead, I'd be interested in your take if you ever see the whole thing. I have NO idea what David Lynch was smoking when he put that on film. It's full of very obscure symbolism. Supposed to be based on a nightmare he had about his daughter's conception.

[Tempest]

Perhaps it's the Model 1 that I have. Did Model 2 come with built-in floppy drives because mine does not? It did, however, come with the B&W monitor and non-clustered arrow keys. Still in the original box (which would surprise no one, I'll bet).

 

As for Eraserhead, I'd be interested in your take if you ever see the whole thing. I have NO idea what David Lynch was smoking when he put that on film. It's full of very obscure symbolism. Supposed to be based on a nightmare he had about his daughter's conception.

 

I'm holding out for at least a Model III (to replace my dead one) but I'd really like a 4 instead. The reason being is that they can play the most games, and you need the Expansion Module to upgrade the I (if you have that though, I might be interested).

 

The Model I looks like this:

 

 

The Model II looks like this:

 

 

 

As for Eraserhead, I only caught the last 20 min or so so I'm not sure what to think. I'd need to see the whole thing to form an opinion (what I saw was really odd). I plan on doing that this weekend.

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Yup, Model 1 is what I have. But it DOES have 16k AND Level 2 BASIC!

 

Your AA signature is "odd". Eraserhead goes WAY beyond that.

[Tempest]

Yup, Model 1 is what I have. But it DOES have 16k AND Level 2 BASIC!

I might consider it if I can't get a III or 4. The problem is that finding a working expansion module is kind of hard.

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Funny you should mention that. The FCC changed it's rules shortly after I bought the Model 1 in 1980, and that made the expansion module suddenly non-compliant. I had seriously considered buying one but it was taken off the market after that FCC ruling. Wish I could help you.

[Tempest]

There might still be hope for my dead Model III. We'll see.

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Good luck.

[Tempest]

As for Eraserhead, I'd be interested in your take if you ever see the whole thing. I have NO idea what David Lynch was smoking when he put that on film. It's full of very obscure symbolism. Supposed to be based on a nightmare he had about his daughter's conception.

 

Ok I just finished watching this from start to finish. I'm not sure what to say. Some of the symbolism I could understand, the rest was just plain weird. As far as I could tell he got a girl pregnant (whose family had mental issues of their own), they had a deformed kid so they had to get married, and they were both sort of miserable so she left. He then started to fantasize about some deformed girl in the radiator (WTF?) and eventually hooked up with the slutty girl that lived across from him only to have her leave because of the baby. He then resented the baby for ruining his life and killed it which somehow electrocuted him. He dies, end of story.

 

That's about all I could grasp from it. Not sure what the whole thing about his head flying off and being used to power an eraser making machine meant (other than giving the movie a title).

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Leave it to you to describe concisely what you see exactly how you see it. Lynch himself said he made it open to interpretation deliberately. Here is one such interpretation from a poster on IMDB (NOT ME!):

 

 

*** This review may contain spoilers ***

"First of all, let me say that Eraserhead is not a film for everyone. Many people will find themselves confused by the strange atmosphere, surreal imagery, and signature David Lynch sense of purposefully awkward pacing.

That out of the way, I would have to say that this is possibly one of my most personal favorite films. It is dark, tense, atmospheric, and filled with sounds and images that will send chills up your spine. It is a film that takes more than one viewing to truly begin to comprehend, but is quite a ride nontheless. There are moments in this movie that will literally scare you, so much so that one could almost call this eerie surreal art-film a deconstructed domestic horror movie. This film, along with the original black and white Night of the Living dead, are two of the only films in existance that still scare me to this day. (Side note: Also, I reccomend that you see Luis Bunuel's movie "Un Chien Andalou" to see where strange art-films like this originated from.)

Anyway, the film's plot while initially incomprehensible to most, can be broken down into the tragic tale of a man named Henry Spencer (Jack Nance) stuck in a dark decaying city overrun by industry. During the film, he is forced to deal with the prospect of taking care of an illegitimate premature child birthed by his girlfriend, Mary X. (Charlotte Stewart) However, he is consumed by his guilt, and begins to comprehend suicide as a way out. But the story is told through such a swirling mixture of dreamlike imagery that this is not always readily apparent.

However, in order to better understand and appreciate the film, one must figure out what each of the images mean. Here's a short cliff notes guidline to some of the more common recurring images in the movie:

***THE FOLLOWING CONTAINS SPOILERS***

Worm = sin. These creatures appear all throughout the movie. Henry even tries to hide his "little" sin from Mary at one point, only to have a nightmare where Mary is consumed by worms. Henry's room is also filled with piles dirt and dead plants as one might notice, which makes his room a breeding ground for worms.

The Baby = The product of sin. You might have noticed that the baby looks an awful lot like a worm. Futhermore, the baby is a part of Henry, and later during the dream sequence, we discover that Henry IS the baby. When Henry kills the baby, he kills himself.

Eraser = Memories. Henry feels that his memories, or his brain with his bad memories, is like an eraser that needs to be rubbed out. In his dream sequence, he sees himself losing his head, and having his brains turned into eraser bits to be rubbed out and blown into dust on the wind.

The lady in the radiator = Death. Death looks grotesque, yet strangely appealing to poor Henry. The radiator gives off warmth and seems to become a stage where death performs for Henry, promising to stamp out his sins (worms) and telling him that "in heaven, everything is fine." At the end of the movie, Henry embraces the lady in the radiator before blackness falls.

The man in the planet = God. In addition to disposing of Henry's cofessed sins at the beginning of the movie (the worm coming out of Henry's mouth) the scarred man in the planet appears to prevent Henry from opting for suicide during his dream sequence. He silently reminds Henry of his sacrifice (the bleeding tree) though it is in vain as Henry shows God what he really is underneith. (the baby)

The last is a theme that occurs in all Lynch movies:

Electricity and electrical lighting = The presence of good. Darkness = The presence of evil.

There are other aspects of the film that keep popping up, such as the reocurrence of the unlucky number thirteen. Henry waits thirteen seconds for the elevator to open up, the lady across the hall takes thirteen seconds to appear, Henry's apartment numbers add up to the number thriteen, etc. Also, there are many other images which I will let you figure out on your own.

***END OF SPOILERS***

All in all, the movie is quite an experience. This is a film that you will either love or utterly hate. For myself, I managed to "click" with the movie from the first time I saw it and have enjoyed it since. Repeated viewings only add to the enjoyment of the film, as you begin to notice more and more that you never saw before. All in all, I say that it is an excellent and extremely layered film.

With that, I give you some fun facts about the movie:

-The pencil eraser machine actually worked. It was put together by Lynch and a friend of his.

-To this day, Lynch will still not disclose how he constructed the amazingly convincing baby creature, though he claims is was created with substance/objects that anyone could find around the house.

-Jack Nance's hair was incredibly malleable. Literally, all it took was a little bit of trimming on either side of his head and some combing to get it to stand upright.

-In order to get a better sense of textures for the film (possibly for the organs of the baby) Lynch dissected a dead cat.

-When driving around town with the "Henry hair" Jack Nance would sit in the center seat while Lynch and someone else would sit on either side to keep his gravity-defying hair from being seen."

 

 

Tempest, I could not have BEGUN to get any of this meaning out of the movie, but I still find it interesting that ANYONE could dream up this stuff, let alone portray it on film. It's only because it is so obscure that I use it as my AA icon. It was recommended to me by a friend and I've simply "paid it forward". Glad you saw it; hope the above interpretation helps it make a little more sense to you.

 

 

[Tempest]

Wish I could have hair like that.