AtariBuff Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 So you are saying that it's not a done deal that all four volumes will even hit the market should the prior volume not generate enough dough. My copy will go back tomorrow to Amazon.co.uk as I simply don't want two or maybe even three volumes here on the display with the next one(s) never being released. This and the problem with printing quality and paper quality leads me to this conclusion. I really am a great Atari fan and I support many homebrew projects, but I can't come to terms with myself for dropping €50 for a book with such flaws. I have many other books with small printruns but these have glossy (or at least quality) paper and are printed in a way it doesn't hurt the eyes. I'm sorry that you have no access to professional business partners and wish you all the best for the remaining volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVgaTv Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 @AtariBluff All four volumes will come out. I'm hoping to have everything wrapped up by the end of next year, although that may get pushed back a little depending on my work travel schedule. Like I said, I'm not doing this for the money, I was simply trying to use that example as a way to illustrate the pricing/royalty issue and why I went with the company that I did. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBuff Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Thanks for the heads-up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVgaTv Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Sure thing. I'm trying to be open about the process and challenges associated with putting a book like this together so that people understand why the book is the way it is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBuff Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 As you pointed this out, I will be keeping my copy and look forward to the remaining volumes. Maybe small steps concerning the cropping and printing can be archieved on future releases. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVgaTv Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 As you pointed this out, I will be keeping my copy and look forward to the remaining volumes. Maybe small steps concerning the cropping and printing can be archieved on future releases. I appreciate it. There are a few tweaks that we are going to do going forward that will hopefully alleviate the cropping/printing issues. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I purchased a copy on Amazon on Friday. I should have it in a day or two. I look forward to reading it, and will post my impressions once I've had a chance to go through it. ..Al 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegamesnotoveryet Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I appreciate it. There are a few tweaks that we are going to do going forward that will hopefully alleviate the cropping/printing issues. So will any improvements be made that will help this current volume, or will these "fixes" only be for future volumes? Like I said, I love to support projects like this, but unless some kind of improvements are made for this current issue, I doubt I would rebuy it. And with out having this first volume, I doubt I would buy the later ones. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVgaTv Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 So will any improvements be made that will help this current volume, or will these "fixes" only be for future volumes? Like I said, I love to support projects like this, but unless some kind of improvements are made for this current issue, I doubt I would rebuy it. And with out having this first volume, I doubt I would buy the later ones. Chris Unfortunately the fixes for the current volume would require it to be completely redone, as it's a foundation issue. Basically it's an easy fix from the start, but significantly more difficult at this stage. I simply don't have the budget to have this one completely redone. That said, I'm hopeful that when the printers upgrade their presses it will fix a lot of the issues, so when I get word that it has happened i will be sure to make a post about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegamesnotoveryet Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Excellent, I look forward to hearing when that happens. Also, do they print these to order? Otherwise, even if they do get new machines, who knows what the end user may get if they have inventory sitting around. Thanks Again! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philflound Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I'm offering my services on correcting any mistakes and such on both this volume and the other 3. I know collectors will have some disappointment when seeing mistakes, but I'm hoping I can help prevent any other mistakes from happening in the future. I'm talking about info/spelling errors, not printing ones, since I cannot control that aspect. I'm giving Derek all corrections for V1 in case he does do another printing, or can possibly fix those specific pages without having to fix everything. I don't know how printing a book goes nowadays, especially since technology has given us many advancements. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVgaTv Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Hey Chris, yes this is a print on demand company, so once the new machines are in the new books will be fresh prints. If they do have inventory it is going to be an incredibly small handful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Hey Chris, yes this is a print on demand company, so once the new machines are in the new books will be fresh prints. If they do have inventory it is going to be an incredibly small handful. Perhaps I should have waited to order a book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr0st Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Perhaps I should have waited to order a book. You forgot to sign off your post! :-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I received my copy of the book today. Flipped through it briefly, but won't be able to spend much time going through it right away.. ..Al 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Luchs Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) I received my book today and the print is really really bad. Edited June 10, 2015 by Der Luchs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari181 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I was excited about this book, I will definately be waiting for all these problems to be fixed before I buy one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVgaTv Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Der Luchs Yikes that's not good at all. I'm sorry that you got a bad print of it. Out of curiosity is it like that throughout the entire book or just a page here and there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Luchs Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Its the entire book, I can make some pics randomly if you want. Looks like someone printed it at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Luchs Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 To show that it isnt the Camera, I've put the E-Jagfest Flyer beside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegamesnotoveryet Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I received my book today and the print is really really bad. WOW, that is absolutely terrible. How can a business take funds to produce a product and take so little "pride" in what they ship out to customers? I don't want to blow this out of proportion, but this is borderline robbery. Shame on this printing company. Chris 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVgaTv Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Chris I agree with you wholeheartedly. Based on these issues I've started the process of setting up the paperback edition with the other company as well. It's going to cost more and be paperback, but hopefully it will look better and give people an option. That said, based on the work involved it is unlikely it will be done before the holidays. I'm pretty much living 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Yep, it's criminal to see the printing company produce such sub-standard work, espically after all the hard work Derek and team put into making this book something special. It must be so frustrating for Derek etc as matters like this out of his hands, yet has such a knock-on effect to potential future sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVgaTv Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Lousy touchscreen. Living on the road the next few months and moving to a new city in August to boot. I'm going to have to manually adjust every single page slightly to fit their file requirements. All future volumes of the book will be published in both. Formats. I will keep everyone posted on the progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Bloody hell Derek, for a minute there i thought you were using same Web Browser as myself :-) Sorry, this is no laughing matter. What sort of compensation (if any) are you able to get from printing company?. I've no idea how the system works in cases like this, but could you say to them, look i can provide 'proof' (ie posts on here, feedback on Amazon etc) that i'm loosing potential sales here based on your poor quality work...or is that not a realistic option?. Forgive my ignorance on things like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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