atari5200dude82 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Very cool and very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Count me in!! Not and overly huge fan of the VCS defender but love the arcade game so hopefully the 7800 will do it justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Nice! I'm a big defender fan. Also defender is a really tough game to capture the feel and excitement of the original. It'll be interesting to see how this one develops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stun Runner 87 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 This is,very awesome. I love that background almost 3d effect scrolling that's kind of like Tower Toppled fish catching level. Defender is an all time favorite..... I look forward to a cart. ..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imstarryeyed Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 That is one sweet looking defender game! Ya know a Bob game, just kind of has his signature just looking at it. Other than then being so accurate, I think it might be the option screens but there is just something about his games that look uniquely his, bravo for using this medium to express his art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke Monster Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Wow!! Bob's Defender is really beautiful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almost Rice Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 This is going to be great. I hope to build a Stargate panel to play it more authentically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Thanks guys, for posting the videos. I actually gave a shout out to RT in the second video's description, as I remember he wanted the big explosion in the 'Defender II' hack. Anyway, there hasn't been an update because I'm having issues with the scanner area. I'm a little nervous about the humanoids as well, and may attempt them with tiles instead of sprites. still going though... 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Great to hear from you! Your game looks great! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zeptari Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I'm not a big Defender fan (don't get the pitchforks out yet, I like it, just don't love it) but am always happy to see another solid game getting developed for the 7800! I'd buy it. I'm thinking of all the "free" plays I'll get. That's alot of quarters saved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryH917 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) Glad to see you back home Bob! Hope all is well Edited April 25, 2015 by GaryH917 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Looks promising. I hope the final version will have the proper screen-spanning enemy explosions and player shot effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Thanks guys, for posting the videos. I actually gave a shout out to RT in the second video's description, as I remember he wanted the big explosion in the 'Defender II' hack. Anyway, there hasn't been an update because I'm having issues with the scanner area. I'm a little nervous about the humanoids as well, and may attempt them with tiles instead of sprites. still going though... Thanks. I can't reply at YouTube because I don't have a Google+ account. Looks like Google can't compete with Facebook fairly, so they pathetically try to force people to use Google+. I refuse to be bullied into using it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Thanks. I can't reply at YouTube because I don't have a Google+ account. Looks like Google can't compete with Facebook fairly, so they pathetically try to force people to use Google+, so I refuse to use it. I use none of the above. Just hotmail and atariage. I can't find my icq number.. Just don't believe in these newfangaled guinea pig projects.((ok buying more tinfoil for my hat(need another layer)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) Looks promising. I hope the final version will have the proper screen-spanning enemy explosions and player shot effect. Can't do either unfortunately - Too many things on the screen at a time. Regarding the shot, the wider it gets (as it's moving across the screen), the more MARIA time it uses, which means less and less objects that can be in the same zone. As far as the enemy explosions, same issue. I have to take the worst case scenario and assume there are other enemies on the screen. In order for the player explosion to happen, you'll notice I have to remove the other enemies (which doesn't happen in the arcade version) otherwise the games would crash. Also, what I had to do was actually reduce the number of on-screen enemies to 8 (from 16) and the number of on-screen shots to 8 (also from 16) because once I started putting the scanner blips on, the game became unstable. So now the player explosion has 8 particles coming from it instead of 16. I'm not saying it's impossible (although I have a feeling it might be... which makes me wonder if that's why GCC and/or Atari weren't so quick to put this one out on this platform). If anyone has an idea on how to accomplish this, I'm all ears. Thanks, Bob Edited April 25, 2015 by PacManPlus 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Doesn't robotron have a lot of objects moving around? Would it be possible to glean something from that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Could you do a bit-mapped display with the XM RAM? You could do explosions, shots, terrain in the bitmap. Would there be enough Maria time to do the ship and enemies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Can't do either unfortunately - Too many things on the screen at a time. I certainly understand the reasons. Still, the particle explosions and that solid-line shot are such a big part of Defender's visual identity, it seems like preserving them should be worth a few technical sacrifices, be it flicker or using character-based effects. Even the NES version of Defender managed to do particle explosions. Looking forward to seeing how Defender's distinctive color cycling effects look on the 7800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Hi guys: Could you do a bit-mapped display with the XM RAM? You could do explosions, shots, terrain in the bitmap. Would there be enough Maria time to do the ship and enemies? Looking forward to seeing how Defender's distinctive color cycling effects look on the 7800. Hmm... Maybe I'm not understanding this correctly, but wouldn't bitmapped mode for this type of game take *more* Maria time? Now you're writing information *each scan line* instead of each zone? Sorry if that seems like a stupid question, but the only work I've done with this mode is my demo of Battlezone. (Not sure what happened with the quoting function up there.) Doesn't robotron have a lot of objects moving around? Would it be possible to glean something from that? Yes, but it doesn't have a character mode where the objects are, I do (for the mountains). I always figured that's why the 'box' isn't around the playfield like the arcade version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78001987 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Some of those compromises aren't the end of the world. I'd be happy as a pig in shit if this was little more than a nice graphical multi color sprite update on the 2600 version of Stargate/Defender II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7800 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Wow!! Looks great so far. I would love to own the final version on a cart someday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenfused Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Bitmap mode would use less maria time than character mode since maria is only fetching the graphics and not the character codes and their graphics. Now it might take more rom/ram space or cpu time to make them depending on how it is done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feralstorm Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Looks exactly as it should, 'cept for the little 'puff' explosions, but that's a 7800 necessity it seems. I'd be willing to accept some flicker to maximize the amount of particles in the player ship explosion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Is it possible to make "smart puffs"? Depending on how many sprites are in a zone it could limit the size of the puff? Less sprites = more puff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitari Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Count me in too - Pal release? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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