_The Doctor__ Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 There is no sound in space, but it can be added easily! RockBall.ATR Select button for two players Start button to play option button during protection box startup selects rack number safely tons of fun! This is revision W 4/23/83 Major 12/27/2014 minor May it bring hours of fun as I enjoy bringing it to you. 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 I was looking for the Atari sound effect editor it was not on the web in fact I found a site with all most utils but the actual 1982 Atari sound effect editor was the only thing missing, well guess what I found in my work? The real ancient old Atari sound effect editor software, the precursor to the one used for all that famous stuff.... I will post it since it seems to exist nowhere as I searched the usual suspects for it and came up without it. I am sure there are way better sound effect editors today..... but hey why not.... someone might just do something with it. ATARISND.ATR 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 There is no sound in space, but it can be added easily! RockBall.ATR Select button for two players Start button to play option button during protection box startup selects rack number safely tons of fun! This is revision W 4/23/83 Major 12/27/2014 minor May it bring hours of fun as I enjoy bringing it to you. So what is the story behind this? This was rumored to exist back in the day? Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I was looking for the Atari sound effect editor it was not on the web in fact I found a site with all most utils but the actual 1982 Atari sound effect editor was the only thing missing, well guess what I found in my work? The real ancient old Atari sound effect editor software, the precursor to the one used for all that famous stuff.... I will post it since it seems to exist nowhere as I searched the usual suspects for it and came up without it. I am sure there are way better sound effect editors today..... but hey why not.... someone might just do something with it. ATARISND.ATR I guess this is the missing sound utility from Curt's site. http://www.atarimuseum.com/computers/8BITS/sweat/ Thanks for posting this. Allan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 It's one of them, Atari had more than one. Some were used in Hollyweird as well. Curt will be happy, I should have mailed it to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 Yes Rockball was actually completed back in the day but like thirty some other fully completed projects they were forgotten during the Motorola induced destruction of Rocklan. I think all still exist from different offices that got sold off during the liquidation. Some one some place has more than they know... Rocklan did work for a large number of software companies. The one I released is the best I can do with what I have and can remember... I am certain the final copy still exists and the main programmer mentioned he finished work on it in an interview, so this will back him up on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) On a side note I have found the interview of Anthony Weber By Scott Stilphen(2004) He worked on RockBall and Gyruss it's on another retro site and another interview on that Press site. I have the pieces and parts of other titles he mentions.. He states he has originals of the work... According to Joe it can be given to the public. Edited June 8, 2015 by _The Doctor__ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 I will try to assemble more stuff for you, but maybe I should just upload the parts and let the community stitch it together and make it all work. Might be better that way. I get a bit worn out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) All of the games were suppose to initially work on the 800 and with the 5200 in mind.... eventually make their way to the Apple, TI, and the 2600 as well, at the time the 2600 was still very relevant! Rockball in theory would only ever have been allowed to have simple sounds from your own ship... in space you could never hear the rocks being destroyed (there is no air!) I often thought it should have digitized voice report Rocks destroyed or targets destroyed using one of the two methods that allow the screen to remain on and active... but where could we find the memory? with such constraining factors it wasn't to be done.... as time marches on I think Rockball Deluxe would have those things done.... same game with title, sounds and a few goodies sprinkled in....but still without explosion sounds from the rocks unless they run into you or you run into them....when you get destroyed is another story entirely In any event here is the 5200 version, just a straight port with nothing extra. # is OPTION, * is SELECT and PAUSE is the space bar on the 5200 controller Thanks to the generosity of our friend Paul at Playsoft here is Rockball conversion for the 5200. rockball5200.zip Merry Christmas, _The Doctor__ Edited December 26, 2015 by _The Doctor__ 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 That is awesome, Thanks Doc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Jefferson Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 In another thread we were talking about reality versus game play and I think "sounds in space" is definitely one of those things where game play should be chosen over realistic simulation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Yeah - imagine Star Wars movies without the "pew pew pew". Terrible thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) So the ideas are.... the pew pew pew your ship firing could be heard and direct collisions could be heard it's just the distant rocks would not be heard but closer ones might pelt you with debris so that could be heard ship board notification could say target hit for far rocks, thrusters for rotation and movement could be heard etc. Edited December 27, 2015 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Jefferson Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 That would be the game designer's decision (is that you? Sorry, I didn't really follow where this came from exactly), but there is something satisfying about hearing the thing you just shot blow up, even when it's in simulated space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 It is my decision as to what happens, I have ideas for a deluxe version.... and may or may not act upon it depending on my health and reception of what we do with this one and how it is received so far so good up till now... Who knows what the future will bring... ?Who Knows! The above in Baker like intonation, _The Doctor__ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman2000 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I have recently discovered the final version of Rockball in cart form. Once I have the special equipment required to dump the rom (it uses an eprom not easily read by some eprom programmers) I will be releasing this and a few other Roklan games for the Atari 800 over in the Prototypes forum. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 Please PM me Dutchman... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 Don't know how I missed the big pictures of the cartridge... but I can verify this is the correct final version of Rockball. I personally would like to thank Dutchman for his offers to help get disks/carts/and other parts out. (for myself and others) I had lost the fire to keep at this as failed drives, cards, keyboards have made it a real PITA. If I can't get back on track I know who to send the rest of it to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I got to play this at VCF. It's a fun little asteroids clone, and was definitely more complete than the version I reviewed. For whatever reason the C64 version didn't seem nearly as nice, maybe that one was unfinished? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 Looks to be more on the way. Really wish I could have made it to VCF. It just wasn't in the cards. I appreciated that. It's uplifting to see what I think was a more interesting time in computing with all manner of people working and making so many wonderful and creative contributions in both hardware and software. Of course the Atari version was better :) you know I had to! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, _The Doctor__ said: Of course the Atari version was better you know I had to! Anthony? Is that you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman2000 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Here they are! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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