XB 2.7 suite or ubergrom and Speech synthesizer talking during startup.

[globeron]

Just got triggered by Vector Roli video. See other thread about Speech.

 

Based on the inventor of the PEB box built-in speech card version where it starts to talk when turning on the computer.

 

Would it be possible with XB2.7 when you turn on the computer that it starts talking automatically #Texas Instruments Home Computer#

 

Or something configurable? With different sentences.

 

Or is it going to drive people crazy? Maybe an on/off option?

[TheMole]

I had an Asus motherboard that did that 10 years ago or so. It basically "talked" through the POST routine. Annoying as hell after a while, but it was a neat (LAN-)party trick.

[Gazoo]

Just got triggered by Vector Roli video. See other thread about Speech.

 

Based on the inventor of the PEB box built-in speech card version where it starts to talk when turning on the computer.

 

Would it be possible with XB2.7 when you turn on the computer that it starts talking automatically #Texas Instruments Home Computer#

 

Or something configurable? With different sentences.

 

Or is it going to drive people crazy? Maybe an on/off option?

 

 

Yes it's possible. Yes it would drive people crazy.

 

Before we get extravagant with options, post the assembly code that speaks what you want it to, I'll see if I can squeeze it in a cart.

 

Gazoo

[Iwantgames:)]

This would pretty cool

[Shift838]

How about 'Welcome User', but it has to sound like the original MCP from TRON!

 

[globeron]

Ksarul mentioned that the SNUG SPVMC has it built-in speech during start-up of the TI:

http://home.arcor.de/system-ninety-nine-user-group/spvmc/index_e.htm

 

* There is software on this website (but I think only the roms by SNUG group?), not too

sure if this is the assembly code.

 

but it looks like a different card, the one I saw was one where you put the

Speech Synthesizer board on top of it (I will try to find the pictures):

 

Something like this:

* http://www.mainbyte.com/ti99/speech_peb/speech_peb.html

* http://www.unige.ch/medecine/nouspikel/ti99/speech.htm#in%20PEbox

[globeron]

(I need to do a bit research on this, but from the Extended Basic module, normally you can do

CALL SAY("Texas Instruments home computer") to use the built-in words (I need to verify the exact command later as I am outside now)

 

Here is some Assembly code related to the SNUG card:

http://home.arcor.de/system-ninety-nine-user-group/spvmc/spvmc_e.pdf

[+Ksarul]

The original Berlin User's Group card used a variant of the software later used on the SPVMC--and it required the Speech Synthesizer to be added to the top of the card.

[globeron]

Hi Jim,

 

The card looks different - SNUG SPVMC:

* http://home.arcor.de/system-ninety-nine-user-group/spvmc/index.htm

 

I am not sure which one of the following started to talk first during startup:

* Rave

http://www.globeron.com/freedownload/services/TI99/Rave-and-Speech-connected.jpg

(Rave) http://www.globeron.com/freedownload/services/TI99/Rave-SpeechSynthesizer-adapter-forPEB-box.jpg

(Speech Synth) http://www.globeron.com/freedownload/services/TI99/SpeechSynthesizer-withoutcover.jpg

 

* I think this one:

http://www.globeron.com/freedownload/services/TI99/PEB-Adapter-for-SpeechSynthesizerFront-Speechmountedsmallerpiece.jpg

http://www.globeron.com/freedownload/services/TI99/PEB-Adapter-for-SpeechSynthesizerBack-Speechmountedsmallerpiece.jpg

 

* (Not too sure if the TI-GG / Dutch Hardware group created a card on its own, I vaguely remember this, I need to search the "TIjdingen magazines)

[globeron]

 

 

Yes it's possible. Yes it would drive people crazy.

 

Before we get extravagant with options, post the assembly code that speaks what you want it to, I'll see if I can squeeze it in a cart.

 

Gazoo

 

Hi Gazoo,

 

In the end we want the Texas to say the following (listen to the wav file):

http://www.globeron.com/freedownload/services/TI99/Greeting.zip

(just kidding)

 

 

I need to spend some time to check if this works (as I am not an assembly person, but I can learn):

 

This is from the Editor Assembler manual (Speech section).

http://www.globeron.com/freedownload/services/TI99/SpeechExample-fromEAmanual-.pdf

 

Assembly code: Article 22.2.1 with an example to say "Hello".

 

Not to sure how easy it is to use the resident vocabulary

(like to do as the PEB-card built-in Speech Synthesizer card, it only says the following):

 

(from Appendices - EA manual)

>6696 Texas Instruments

>363E Home

>2034 Computer

[+Ksarul]

The last pair of pictures is a Berlin UG board--and they do speak on power-up. I have one. . .and if I remember correctly, only about 20 of them were made, possibly a few more, but I don't think it was more than 30. I'll have to check my old correspondence on the subject to see if I still have any of the back-and-forth discussions between Winfried and I while he was developing it.

[Tursi]

I didn't find the EA Speech Chapter very straightforward, but here's a program that says TEXAS INSTRUMENTS HOME COMPUTER then returns to caller. (Program name START).

 

Build and tested with Classic99, and then I tested the disk image version of the code works too. The delays should be correct but it needs to be tested on hardware to be certain, since the speech chip delays are not emulated in Classic99.

speak.zip

[+arcadeshopper]

my geneve when it starts up says in homer simpson's voice "to start press any key, where's the any key!" no speech synth needed probably could do the same thing on the 4/a using tursi's movie converter just play the sound

[globeron]

I didn't find the EA Speech Chapter very straightforward, but here's a program that says TEXAS INSTRUMENTS HOME COMPUTER then returns to caller. (Program name START).

 

Build and tested with Classic99, and then I tested the disk image version of the code works too. The delays should be correct but it needs to be tested on hardware to be certain, since the speech chip delays are not emulated in Classic99.

 

Hi Tursi,

Perfect! it worked on the real TI. loud and clear

Tested on real TI-99/4A - http://www.globeron.com/freedownload/services/TI99/Speech.mp4

[globeron]

The last pair of pictures is a Berlin UG board--and they do speak on power-up. I have one. . .and if I remember correctly, only about 20 of them were made, possibly a few more, but I don't think it was more than 30. I'll have to check my old correspondence on the subject to see if I still have any of the back-and-forth discussions between Winfried and I while he was developing it.

 

Really, only 20?

[Gazoo]

I didn't find the EA Speech Chapter very straightforward, but here's a program that says TEXAS INSTRUMENTS HOME COMPUTER then returns to caller. (Program name START).

 

Build and tested with Classic99, and then I tested the disk image version of the code works too. The delays should be correct but it needs to be tested on hardware to be certain, since the speech chip delays are not emulated in Classic99.

 

XB27SPEECH.dsk

 

Modification for XB v2.7 Suite cartridge

This should make the TI speak whenever the XB v2.7 Suite menu screen is presented.

Thanks for the code, Tursi. I've posted the changes I made to the source below to get it to work in the cart.

No guarantees, as I'm really tired.

 

And you won't get a good verification screen if you try that, I haven't updated the checksum for this version.

 

Gazoo

 

 

* Simple code to speak TEXAS INSTRUMENTS HOME COMPUTER from the built-in

* vocabulary. Based on the examples in the E/A manual, which I found

* presented somewhat confusingly.

REF GPLLNK

DEF START

AORG >C000

START B @START1

TEXAS EQU >6696

HOME EQU >363E

COMP EQU >2034

READIT EQU >8330 * where to store read routine

H8000 DATA >8000 * speaking flag

H10 BYTE >10 * READ DATA

H50 BYTE >50 * SPEAK

HAA BYTE >AA * ROM header byte

EVEN

START1

* save return address

MOV R11,R9

* copy in the scratchpad code

LI R0,READIT

LI R1,CODE

LI R2,6 * 6 words

CPLP

MOV *R1+,*R0+

DEC R2

JNE CPLP

* Check if there IS a synth

CLR R0 * going to read >0000

BL @SETADR

MOVB @H10,@>9400 * READ DATA command

* need to delay 12 uS, about 36 cycles - each NOP is 10+4 (8-bit)

NOP

NOP

NOP * about 42 cycles

BL @READIT * read one byte into R0

CB R0,@HAA * is it >AA?

JEQ SPEAKY

* no synth, so just return

B @GOBACK

* we have a synth, so make some noise

SPEAKY

* Say TEXAS INSTRUMENTS HOME COMPUTER. Note we will block until COMPUTER starts.

LI R0,TEXAS

BL @SAYIT

LI R0,HOME

BL @SAYIT

LI R0,COMP

BL @SAYIT

* back to caller

B @GOBACK

*

* Scratchpad code for reading data

*

CODE MOVB @>9000,R0

* E/A doesn't give exact time needed here, but they use 3 NOPS (30 cycles in scr

NOP

NOP

NOP

B *R11

*

* set speech data address from R0

* Uses R1,R2

*

SETADR

LI R2,4 * 4 nibbles to load

SETALP

SRC R0,4 * Start with LS nibble

MOV R0,R1

SRC R1,4 * move desired nibble to right place

ANDI R1,>0F00 * mask it

ORI R1,>4000 * OR with ADDRESS command nibble

MOVB R1,@>9400 * send the command

DEC R2

JNE SETALP * do all four nibbles

LI R1,>4000

MOVB R1,@>9400 * write the final nibble

* need to delay 42 uSec, about 126 cycles - SRC is 12+4+2C (8-bit)

SRC R1,15 * 46

SRC R1,15 * 46

SRC R1,12 * 40 (A little extra to be safe)

B *R11

*

* Speech the vocabulary word stored in R0

*

SAYIT

MOV R11,R10 * save return address

* set the address

BL @SETADR

* Send speak command

MOVB @H50,@>9400

* Actual delay not specified again, assume 12?

* need to delay 12 uS, about 36 cycles - each NOP is 10+4 (8-bit)

NOP

NOP

NOP * about 42 cycles

* wait for speech to end

WAIT

BL @READIT * with no address just loaded, it retu

COC @H8000,R0

JEQ WAIT

B *R10

GOBACK BLWP @GPLLNK

DATA >7854

END

Edited June 30, 2015 by Gazoo

[Gazoo]

XB27SPEECH.dsk

 

Same disk as before, but it will verify now with an F6.

 

Gazoo

 

[+OLD CS1]

my geneve when it starts up says in homer simpson's voice "to start press any key, where's the any key!" no speech synth needed probably could do the same thing on the 4/a using tursi's movie converter just play the sound

 

hehehe That used to be my Amiga start sound. Now it is Joel from MST3K saying "Hey, has anyone seen the mouse to my Amiga" and then Crow and Tom Servo give him hell.

[+arcadeshopper]

 

hehehe That used to be my Amiga start sound. Now it is Joel from MST3K saying "Hey, has anyone seen the mouse to my Amiga" and then Crow and Tom Servo give him hell.

 

please to send me file

[Gazoo]

I just tried this on my real TI, and it seems there is too long of a pause between 'Instruments' and 'Home'.

 

You could just tell me I'm nuts, there's nothing wrong with the way it is, and we'll move on.

 

Also, how many times should the speech play before it is replaced by a beep? I'd suggest 2 or 3 times before it got annoying.

 

What's cool is that even after loading BOOT in the Gram space, there's still over 2k left there (the Gram space) to store stuff that won't normally be touched, so you could store all sorts of data and variables there. I should be able to put a byte there and have it count to 2 and then change the Speech to a beep after two Speeches.

 

I would think that Rich would be interested in integrating that 15k of Gram in the Ubergrom cart into RXB, there's plenty of space to store things you need that won't be touched unlike the Ram space on the TI.

 

Gazoo

 

 

EDIT: I just played with this a little, and it seems the speech is in the wrong place. It should be after the main menu on the Games menu after the spacebar is pressed. The text for what is spoken is even on that screen! The main menu (blue) should beep all the time.

 

Thoughts? Ideas?

Edited June 30, 2015 by Gazoo

[+arcadeshopper]

I just tried this on my real TI, and it seems there is too long of a pause between 'Instruments' and 'Home'.

 

You could just tell me I'm nuts, there's nothing wrong with the way it is, and we'll move on.

 

Also, how many times should the speech play before it is replaced by a beep? I'd suggest 2 or 3 times before it got annoying.

 

What's cool is that even after loading BOOT in the Gram space, there's still over 2k left there (the Gram space) to store stuff that won't normally be touched, so you could store all sorts of data and variables there. I should be able to put a byte there and have it count to 2 and then change the Speech to a beep after two Speeches.

 

I would think that Rich would be interested in integrating that 15k of Gram in the Ubergrom cart into RXB, there's plenty of space to store things you need that won't be touched unlike the Ram space on the TI.

 

Gazoo

 

 

EDIT: I just played with this a little, and it seems the speech is in the wrong place. It should be after the main menu on the Games menu after the spacebar is pressed. The text for what is spoken is even on that screen! The main menu (blue) should beep all the time.

 

Thoughts? Ideas?

 

I like it.. perfect

 

Greg

[globeron]

XB27SPEECH.dsk

 

Same disk as before, but it will verify now with an F6.

 

Gazoo

 

[globeron]

I just flew out and can test on Saturday...I am not at the stage yet to travel with a real TI under my arm...thanks for the very very fast replies and build!