SoundGammon Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Turned on my PS3 last night and the green came on for a second, flashed yellow, then just flashing red! I found out that that the thermal grease needs to be redone. Ordered some on-line, will be here next week. Reason I want to keep it going is because it's the older unit that plays PS1 & PS2 games. I saw some older ones at pawn shops and it got me thinking how does one know if it plays PS1 & 2 games without hooking it up? Certain serial numbers or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 You can see the models here: https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1196/~/ps3-model-and-serial-number-location I went with a super slim. Cool and makes zero noise. I still have my slim PS2 hooked up and a modded PS2 so I don't really need the BC on PS3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundGammon Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 Only reason I want BC is to be able to play Thunder Force 6 from Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I keep hearing about that game. I may have to check that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Is it that 'easy' to fix? My PS3 Fat died earlier this year so I got a nice slim to replace it (the super slim's 'sliding CD cover' is an abomination unto the Lord). I actually like the slim better than the Fat since it runs much MUCH quieter, but of course it can play PS2 games. I still have my fat and I've wanted to fix it but I assumed I had to resolder something. If all I have to do is reapply the thermal paste then I might want to try repairing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giltygear Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Is it that 'easy' to fix? My PS3 Fat died earlier this year so I got a nice slim to replace it (the super slim's 'sliding CD cover' is an abomination unto the Lord). I actually like the slim better than the Fat since it runs much MUCH quieter, but of course it can play PS2 games. I still have my fat and I've wanted to fix it but I assumed I had to resolder something. If all I have to do is reapply the thermal paste then I might want to try repairing it. Its a temporary fix. You're going to have to do it again. Have the motherboard reballed and you'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Its a temporary fix. You're going to have to do it again. Have the motherboard reballed and you'll be fine. Ah that's what I thought. What does it cost to have the motherboard reballed? Anyone on AA do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Turned on my PS3 last night and the green came on for a second, flashed yellow, then just flashing red! I found out that that the thermal grease needs to be redone. Ordered some on-line, will be here next week. Reason I want to keep it going is because it's the older unit that plays PS1 & PS2 games. I saw some older ones at pawn shops and it got me thinking how does one know if it plays PS1 & 2 games without hooking it up? Certain serial numbers or what? Based on the models chart linked, if it has 4 usb slots, it should have PS2 BC. Although I think the 80GB models are software emulation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Although I think the 80GB models are software emulation? I'm sure they were....which was pretty crappy if I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercylon Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Unfortunately, it seems like those 4 port 80 GB models are the easiest to find. My guess is that these BC models are getting harder and harder to find as they die off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) To be honest you're much better off getting a newer PS3 and a slim PS2. Even if you do manage to get a 20GB/60GB PS3 working again the chances of it failing again are very high. I just use a 320GB PS3 Slim and a PS2 Slim (with component video cable) now since my 60GB BC PS3 died. Edited July 21, 2015 by R.Bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundGammon Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 One quick question: Can I take the hard drive out and connect it to computer and back up the files? Also, I read somewhere that putting the hard drive into another PS3, it'll automatically be formatted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 No and yes. Only way to back it up is with the PS3 functioning....and yes it will be formatted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundGammon Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 Thanks for the info! Better get the hair dryer out and a usb stick! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Although I think the 80GB models are software emulation? It was a hybrid hardware/software solution in later BC North American PS3's. One of the two major PS2 chips has an emulator substituted in its place while the other remains. This is why it ultimately disappeared entirely when that second chip was eliminated to further drive down production costs. If the European BC model is any indication (They never got the original model that we did, thanks to a later launch over there), this setup for PS2 titles works just fine in the vast majority of cases. Edited August 15, 2015 by Atariboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I have a Slim (purchased in 2010). Slims don't play PS2 games nor have memory or controller slots, but they can emulate PS1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 All PS3's can do that by virtue of it being fully emulated in software. There was nothing to eliminate in a cost cutting move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercylon Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Of course, eventually, PS2 classic were release that can be played by any PS3. Granted, these are digital downloads only... I had forgotten how these work. I think there is an emulator built in for each game...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Of course, eventually, PS2 classic were release that can be played by any PS3. Granted, these are digital downloads only... I had forgotten how these work. I think there is an emulator built in for each game...... There's some debate there on exactly how those operate, that sadly looks set to remain unanswered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercylon Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 There's some debate there on exactly how those operate, that sadly looks set to remain unanswered. Well, pulling out the hardware feature, and then re-releasing them as classics in a digital form, regardless how the emulation or porting is done get people to pay for old games again. What they call a "classic" is weird sometimes. Yes, I am glad I can play Suikoden 2 again without having to pay a boat load of money for a physical copy, but some shovel ware gets re-released too, and I don't understand why they would put the effort into some of those titles.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) What they call a "classic" is weird sometimes. Yes, I am glad I can play Suikoden 2 again without having to pay a boat load of money for a physical copy, but some shovel ware gets re-released too, and I don't understand why they would put the effort into some of those titles.... Same here, which makes me believe that it's full blown software emulation since it's difficult to imagine much in the way of resources having been expended to rerelease many of the dubious choices that they've gone with. But there's not a consensus on exactly how it works and as far as I'm aware, Sony has never provided any real clarification on the topic (Unlike Microsoft for a recent example, which has been quite open about Xbox 360 emulation on the Xbox One). Edited August 17, 2015 by Atariboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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