Who can make the longest Atari chain?

[Mind Master]

This is a game. Here are the rules: make the longest list of Atari 2600 games you can. Each entry in the list has to share at least one word of the title with the previous entry. For purposes of the game plurals count as the same word as singulars (i.e., racer = racers). Words can also legally be embedded in other words (i.e., commander=command=commando, since they all contain "command".

 

Here's a very short chain for starters:

 

Missile Command

Chopper Command

Pac Man ("command" contains "man")

Ms. Pac Man

Jr. Pac Man

[Kasenoke]

Kool-Aid Man

Ghost Manor (Manor Contains Man.)

Cannon Man (Man is in Manor.)

Human Cannonball

Baseball

Basketball

Football

Realsports Baseball

Realsports Football

Realsports Volleyball

Video Pinball

Pinball (Will this count? Theyre two separate names for the same game.)

Super Baseball

Super Challenge Football

Challenge

Challenge of NEXAR!

Buck Rogers and the planet of Doom

Buck Rogers, planet of Zoom

Masters of the Universe

Mines of Minos

Raiders of the Lost Ark

Wizard of Wor

Adventures of Tron

Adventure

Space Adventure

Space Invaders

Space Jockey

Space Robot

Space Tunnel

Space War

Space Shuttle

Space Combat

Combat

Combat 2

Miner 2049er

Miner 2049er 2

Dukes of Hazzard 2

Dukes of Hazzard

Game of Concentration

Name this Game!

California Games

Brain Games

Winter Games

Wing War (winter and wing both contain WIN, does that count???)

 

*Phew, Im tired*

[Mind Master]

Great chain. To answer question at the end, no, that isn't legal.

 

But the two different names for the pinball game are legal.

 

I guess it's my thread so I'll make the rules!

[Kasenoke]

Ok, thanks. Had to know the rules.

[Gateway]

Masters of the Universe  

Mines of Minos  

Raiders of the Lost Ark  

Wizard of Wor  

Adventures of Tron  

 

Is "of" legal in this game? What about other words like "a","is" and "the"?

 

Just wondering before I play.

[Mind Master]

Okay, I'm going to do something radical here to simplify the game, and also to make it more difficult. This is an official rules revision.

 

1. You have to match the EXACT word, not portions of words. Thus "command" CAN'T be linked with "man". "Command" can only be linked with another "command".

 

2. You cannot use the following words to make a link:

 

the, and, of, is, or

 

3. You can only use a number to make a link if that EXACT number is used in the title of both games. (thus Miner 2049er can't be linked with Pitfall 2).

 

Let's try it this way and see what happens.

[MattyXB]

Bobby geht heim

Bobby geht nach Hause

Bobby is going home

E.T. Go Home

Home Run

Gogo Home Monster (I found it in the list, but I don't know this game)

Cookie Monster Munch

Frankenstein's Monster

Space Monster

Spider Monster

Sea Monster

Sea Adventure

Sea Battle

Sea Hawk

Sea Hunt

Sea Quest

Air Sea Battle

Battle Zone

Star Wars: Death Star Battle

Star Wars

Star Wars: Ewok Adventure

Star Wars: Jedi Arena

Star Wars: The Arcade Game

Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back

Back to School Pak

2-Pak Special

Go For Gold Pak

Hot Action Pak

Mega Fun Pak

Racing Pak

Rad Action Pak

Smash Hit Pak

Sports Action Pak

Super Action Pak

Super Hit Pak

Action Pak

Elevator Action

Action Force

Task Force

Cross Force

Mega Force

MegaCart 32

32 in 1

128 in 1

16-in-1

2-in-1

4-in-1

8-in-1

 

Enough for now.

[Mind Master]

Nice chain.

 

Instead of just making long chains, how about if we have a specific objective this time.

 

Can anybody make a chain that connects Space Invaders to Pac Man?

 

Let's add another rule: no using numbers to make a link.

 

As a tougher challenge, can anybody connect Raiders of the Lost Ark to Chopper Command?

[Room 34]

Some of these may not count under the strict rules, but it's a try...

 

Space Invaders

Space Cavern

Pitfall II: Lost Caverns

Raiders of the Lost Ark

Star Raiders

Starmaster

Masters of the Universe - He Man

Pac-Man

 

Under the "easy" rules, you could just tack Chopper Command on the end of that and you'd get the RotLA-to-Chopper Command chain too!

[MattyXB]

Ok, Raiders of the Lost Ark is my favourite game, so try it:

 

a small one, you can make it bigger, when you use some double.

 

Raiders of the Lost Ark

Star Raiders

Star Wars: Death Star Battle

Air Sea Battle

Air Raid

Command Raid (CCE)

Chopper Command

[Room 34]

Using the "easy" rules:

 

Raiders of the Lost Ark

Commando Raid

Chopper Command

 

Using the "hard" rules... I had a huge chain and was still no where near getting it, so I gave up! Matty's approach looks good though.

[Mind Master]

Ok, Raiders of the Lost Ark is my favourite game, so  try it:

 

a small one, you can make it bigger, when you use some double.    

 

Raiders of the Lost Ark

Star Raiders

Star Wars: Death Star Battle

Air Sea Battle  

Air Raid

Command Raid (CCE)

Chopper Command

 

OUTSTANDING!!!

 

I'm going to listen the "hard" rules a bit by allowing plurals (i.e., raider=raiders).

 

Let's see somebody connect Laser Blast with Pitfall (two Crane games).

[Mind Master]

oops - I meant LOOSEN the rules, not "listen".

 

MM

[Mind Master]

I think I know a way to further evolve this game. Thanks for your patience as I keep evolving the rules!

 

We're going to a point system. The chain with the least number of points wins. Here's how the scoring works:

 

- For a perfect word-to-word match, 0 points.

- For a match of a word with a plural of that word, 1 point.

- For a match where 1 word is embedded in the other word (such as Star in Starmaster), 10 points.

 

- Using any of the short words as a match (is, the, of, or, and) is still illegal.

- It's illegal to make a match using portions of both word (such as matching "command" with "superman". If "superman" were spelled "Super Man", then this would be legal but would cost 10 points as above).

 

So given these rules, who can link Laser Blast to Pitfall using the fewest number of points? In case of a tie in points, the shortest chain wins.

[Room 34]

Laser Blast

Laser Volley (0)

RealSports Volleyball (10)

Human Cannonball (10)

Kool Aid Man (10)

Raiders of the Lost Ark (10)

Pitfall II: Lost Caverns (0)

Pitfall (0)

 

40 points. Although the Human-to-Man and Aid-to-Raiders connections are so lame I probably deserve more points.

[Mind Master]

I thought I had your 40 points beat, but then I realized I had an illegal link from volleyball to Video Pinball...

[Room 34]

I don't think Volleyball to Video Pinball would be any more illegal than Volleyball to Human Cannonball...

[MattyXB]

Laser Blast

Laser Base (ITT Family Games) (0)

Base Attack (0)

Space Attack (0)

Space Cavern (0)

Pitfall II: Lost Caverns (1)

Pitfall (0)

 

Perfect 1 score

[ATARI TROLL]

DOES THIS COUNT FOR A LONG THREAD

 

Author Message

MattyXB Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:47 pm Post subject:

 

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Laser Blast

Laser Base (ITT Family Games) (0)

Base Attack (0)

Space Attack (0)

Space Cavern (0)

Pitfall II: Lost Caverns (1)

Pitfall (0)

 

 

Perfect 1 score

 

 

Room 34 Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:52 am Post subject:

 

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I don't think Volleyball to Video Pinball would be any more illegal than Volleyball to Human Cannonball...

 

 

Mind Master Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:43 am Post subject:

 

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I thought I had your 40 points beat, but then I realized I had an illegal link from volleyball to Video Pinball...

 

 

Room 34 Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:35 am Post subject:

 

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Laser Blast

Laser Volley (0)

RealSports Volleyball (10)

Human Cannonball (10)

Kool Aid Man (10)

Raiders of the Lost Ark (10)

Pitfall II: Lost Caverns (0)

Pitfall (0)

 

40 points. Although the Human-to-Man and Aid-to-Raiders connections are so lame I probably deserve more points.

 

 

Mind Master Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:26 am Post subject:

 

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I think I know a way to further evolve this game. Thanks for your patience as I keep evolving the rules!

 

We're going to a point system. The chain with the least number of points wins. Here's how the scoring works:

 

- For a perfect word-to-word match, 0 points.

- For a match of a word with a plural of that word, 1 point.

- For a match where 1 word is embedded in the other word (such as Star in Starmaster), 10 points.

 

- Using any of the short words as a match (is, the, of, or, and) is still illegal.

- It's illegal to make a match using portions of both word (such as matching "command" with "superman". If "superman" were spelled "Super Man", then this would be legal but would cost 10 points as above).

 

So given these rules, who can link Laser Blast to Pitfall using the fewest number of points? In case of a tie in points, the shortest chain wins.

 

 

Mind Master Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:07 am Post subject:

 

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oops - I meant LOOSEN the rules, not "listen".

 

MM

 

 

Mind Master Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:06 am Post subject:

 

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MattyXB wrote:

Ok, Raiders of the Lost Ark is my favourite game, so try it:

 

a small one, you can make it bigger, when you use some double.

 

Raiders of the Lost Ark

Star Raiders

Star Wars: Death Star Battle

Air Sea Battle

Air Raid

Command Raid (CCE)

Chopper Command

 

 

OUTSTANDING!!!

 

I'm going to listen the "hard" rules a bit by allowing plurals (i.e., raider=raiders).

 

Let's see somebody connect Laser Blast with Pitfall (two Crane games).

 

 

Room 34 Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:56 am Post subject:

 

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Using the "easy" rules:

 

Raiders of the Lost Ark

Commando Raid

Chopper Command

 

Using the "hard" rules... I had a huge chain and was still no where near getting it, so I gave up! Matty's approach looks good though.

 

 

MattyXB Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:49 am Post subject:

 

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Ok, Raiders of the Lost Ark is my favourite game, so try it:

 

a small one, you can make it bigger, when you use some double.

 

Raiders of the Lost Ark

Star Raiders

Star Wars: Death Star Battle

Air Sea Battle

Air Raid

Command Raid (CCE)

Chopper Command

 

 

Room 34 Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:24 am Post subject:

 

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Some of these may not count under the strict rules, but it's a try...

 

Space Invaders

Space Cavern

Pitfall II: Lost Caverns

Raiders of the Lost Ark

Star Raiders

Starmaster

Masters of the Universe - He Man

Pac-Man

 

Under the "easy" rules, you could just tack Chopper Command on the end of that and you'd get the RotLA-to-Chopper Command chain too!

 

 

Mind Master Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 8:38 am Post subject:

 

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Nice chain.

 

Instead of just making long chains, how about if we have a specific objective this time.

 

Can anybody make a chain that connects Space Invaders to Pac Man?

 

Let's add another rule: no using numbers to make a link.

 

As a tougher challenge, can anybody connect Raiders of the Lost Ark to Chopper Command?

 

 

MattyXB Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 8:19 am Post subject:

 

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Bobby geht heim

Bobby geht nach Hause

Bobby is going home

E.T. Go Home

Home Run

Gogo Home Monster (I found it in the list, but I don't know this game)

Cookie Monster Munch

Frankenstein's Monster

Space Monster

Spider Monster

Sea Monster

Sea Adventure

Sea Battle

Sea Hawk

Sea Hunt

Sea Quest

Air Sea Battle

Battle Zone

Star Wars: Death Star Battle

Star Wars

Star Wars: Ewok Adventure

Star Wars: Jedi Arena

Star Wars: The Arcade Game

Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back

Back to School Pak

2-Pak Special

Go For Gold Pak

Hot Action Pak

Mega Fun Pak

Racing Pak

Rad Action Pak

Smash Hit Pak

Sports Action Pak

Super Action Pak

Super Hit Pak

Action Pak

Elevator Action

Action Force

Task Force

Cross Force

Mega Force

MegaCart 32

32 in 1

128 in 1

16-in-1

2-in-1

4-in-1

8-in-1

 

Enough for now.

 

 

Mind Master Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:50 am Post subject:

 

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Okay, I'm going to do something radical here to simplify the game, and also to make it more difficult. This is an official rules revision.

 

1. You have to match the EXACT word, not portions of words. Thus "command" CAN'T be linked with "man". "Command" can only be linked with another "command".

 

2. You cannot use the following words to make a link:

 

the, and, of, is, or

 

3. You can only use a number to make a link if that EXACT number is used in the title of both games. (thus Miner 2049er can't be linked with Pitfall 2).

 

Let's try it this way and see what happens.

 

 

Gateway To Aphsai Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 3:37 am Post subject:

 

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Quote:

Masters of the Universe

Mines of Minos

Raiders of the Lost Ark

Wizard of Wor

Adventures of Tron

 

 

 

Is "of" legal in this game? What about other words like "a","is" and "the"?

 

Just wondering before I play.

 

 

Kasenoke Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 1:04 pm Post subject:

 

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Ok, thanks. Had to know the rules.

 

 

Mind Master Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 1:00 pm Post subject:

 

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Great chain. To answer question at the end, no, that isn't legal.

 

But the two different names for the pinball game are legal.

 

I guess it's my thread so I'll make the rules!

 

 

Kasenoke Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 12:41 pm Post subject:

 

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Kool-Aid Man

Ghost Manor (Manor Contains Man.)

Cannon Man (Man is in Manor.)

Human Cannonball

Baseball

Basketball

Football

Realsports Baseball

Realsports Football

Realsports Volleyball

Video Pinball

Pinball (Will this count? Theyre two separate names for the same game.)

Super Baseball

Super Challenge Football

Challenge

Challenge of NEXAR!

Buck Rogers and the planet of Doom

Buck Rogers, planet of Zoom

Masters of the Universe

Mines of Minos

Raiders of the Lost Ark

Wizard of Wor

Adventures of Tron

Adventure

Space Adventure

Space Invaders

Space Jockey

Space Robot

Space Tunnel

Space War

Space Shuttle

Space Combat

Combat

Combat 2

Miner 2049er

Miner 2049er 2

Dukes of Hazzard 2

Dukes of Hazzard

Game of Concentration

Name this Game!

California Games

Brain Games

Winter Games

Wing War (winter and wing both contain WIN, does that count???)

 

*Phew, Im tired*

 

 

Mind Master Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 12:22 pm Post subject: Who can make the longest Atari chain?

 

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This is a game. Here are the rules: make the longest list of Atari 2600 games you can. Each entry in the list has to share at least one word of the title with the previous entry. For purposes of the game plurals count as the same word as singulars (i.e., racer = racers). Words can also legally be embedded in other words (i.e., commander=command=commando, since they all contain "command".

 

Here's a very short chain for starters:

 

Missile Command

Chopper Command

Pac Man ("command" contains "man")

Ms. Pac Man

Jr. Pac Man

 

 

 

 

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[MattyXB]

So given these rules, who can link Laser Blast to Pitfall using the fewest number of points?  In case of a tie in points, the shortest chain wins.

 

1 point again:

Laser Blast

Laser Base (ITT Family Games) (0)

Base Attack (0)

Space Attack (0)

Space Cavern (0)

Pitfall II: Lost Caverns (1)

Pitfall (0)

 

Ok, here again, a bit longer, but 0 points.

1 point was to much for me.

 

Laser Blast

Laser Base (ITT Family Games) (0)

Base Attack (0)

Space Attack (0)

Space Monster (0)

Sea Monster (0)

Sea Battle (0)

Star Wars: Death Star Battle (0)

Star Raiders (0)

Raiders of the Lost Ark (0)

Pitfall II: Lost Caverns (0)

Pitfall (0)

[Mind Master]

Sweet. Laser Blast to Pitfall in zero points, 11 moves. My guess is nobody will be able to beat that.

 

I'm going to modify a rule since people aren't using it anyway. Partial-word to partial-word links are now legal, but are penalized 10 points. That means volleyball can be linked to pinball at a cost of ten points. The only condition I'll put on this is that the linking word must be at least four letters long to be legal.

 

You can use a linking word of three letters or less only when at least one of the two games linked has the linking word defined separately in the game title.

 

So here are some examples to illustrate:

 

Pac Man = Superman (10 points) (even though "man" is only three letters this is legal because at least one of the two titles has "man" as a separate word

 

Space Invaders = Space Treat (zero points)

 

Volleyball=pinball (10 points) (legal because "ball" is at least 4 letters long

 

Superman=Bomberman (illegal: linking word < 4 letters and linking word is embedded in both titles

 

Clear as mud? How crazy can this get...

[Mind Master]

Next challenge:

 

Go from Adventure to Secret Quest in the fewest number of points.

[Room 34]

Next challenge:

 

Go from Adventure to Secret Quest in the fewest number of points.

 

Adventure

Star Wars: Ewok Adventure

Star Wars: Death Star Battle

Air-Sea Battle

Sea Quest (Apparently some non-US labels had this alternate spelling)

Secret Quest

 

As long as the "Sea" in Air-Sea Battle can be counted as an individual word, then that's 0 points.

[Mind Master]

Zero points and only five steps! I think we have a winner unless somebody comes up with a miracle.

 

You guys are getting pretty good at this. Let's see if I can make things a little more challenging...

 

How about going from one of Atari's biggest disasters to the other disaster.

 

Pac Man to E.T. the Extra Terrestrial

[Room 34]

OK, this will rely on some rule-bending...

 

Pac-Man

Submarine Commander

Subterranea

E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial

 

Probably doesn't count. If "the" is valid, then:

 

Pac-Man

Masters of the Universe: He Man

E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial

 

Otherwise, I'm stumped, mainly because nothing else matches E.T.!