Sinphaltimus Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) Road Hunter is a good game too. You have to keep moving to pick up fuel or game over.... no sitting around hoarding points in that one! When the name of the game is HIGH SCORE..... EDIT: I could have just posted my screenshot at the end and kept my mouth shut. Edited February 4, 2018 by Sinphaltimus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 EDIT: I could have just posted my screenshot at the end and kept my mouth shut. | I'm glad you didn't! I can just imagine how irritated people would be, myself included, not even coming close to that score. Now that I know what is involved, I'll bow out of this one. Thanks for saving us all time & aggravation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Im good at marathoning. . And I love doing it. I think I just became a massive JetPac fan. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Are you kidding me??? Can this happen with the original JetPac on the Spectrum? The respawning of the monsters is randomized to direction and location, but I suppose this could happen, and apparently it did. It would be harder to do this beyond the first level as the monsters become bouncy. Can you replicate this and maybe post a short video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 So I checked a video on YouTube about the original JetPac on the Spectrum: I can see how one could just sit on the middle platform all day and just pick at the monsters for points... Apparently my version just replicated that flaw.... Bummer! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discgolfer72 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) lol you can just stand still and never die lol but you get no points guess I live stream a game until my wife makes me go help with the little ones https://youtu.be/BHhZIYyogvQ ps how do I embed vids on this forum cant figure it out Edited February 4, 2018 by discgolfer72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I tried several times to replicate the issue and I can't do it. Yes I could stay put but then I accrue no points, so I have to go "hunting" and that's when things get more random and I die... The random number generator must have favored Sinphaltimus tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I am going to murder this game tonight.... Gonna try to roll the score. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discgolfer72 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 the collision around the platforms and up top on the right are brutal I keep getting stuck/bouncing off going to have to dig out my wico command control stick the Atari og stick is giving me a blister on this game lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinphaltimus Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Are y'all saying you can't reach 30k? Opry99er sounds optimistic. I hope this wasn't some freak incident, I was getting tired but if I made that coffee I'd still be going. If any of you best my score, I'm going to pull an all nighter. some other day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Starting to feel the groove.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 A little better yet... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) OK how about we do this: Instead of switching games yet again, let's make it a rule that one has to move on to the next level as soon as possible after fueling the rocket. Some hovering around and shooting will likely be necessary at that stage in order to make a safe exit, but it should not be deliberate stalling. There will of course be no way of enforcing that, so it will have to be an honor thing. If you want to make a video of your exploits like Discgolfer72, even better. It will however be much harder to sit around at the higher levels anyway. Kudos to Sinphaltimus for reporting that unusual quirk in the gameplay instead of keeping quiet, even though I can't seem to be able to replicate it. Given that new rule, I will take out the latest scores by Sinphaltimus and keep his highest one prior. Opry99er, did you achieve that magnificent score by the wait and bait trick or through straight play? JetPac Leaderboard Tursi 6000 Discgolfer72 4700 (video backed) Vorticon 3825 Sinphaltimus 3525 Omega 1275 Opry99er ? Edited February 4, 2018 by Vorticon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I'm glad you didn't! I can just imagine how irritated people would be, myself included, not even coming close to that score. Now that I know what is involved, I'll bow out of this one. Thanks for saving us all time & aggravation. Do you want to reconsider given the above? If not I'll take your entry out of the leaderboard because it would not be fair to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinphaltimus Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I spent an hour getting that score. We're playing within the game's mechanics (not cheating) of what it allows us to do. I really think we play it out as is (everyone has an equal shot to beat it - Oppery99er has taken to the challenge) - I don't think we should stick with the game if my score is discounted. I really want that Navarone. And anyone here can replicate my method at an attempt to beat me. So I think either we stick with it, or we change games, not change the rules. That would invalidate all my efforts and reporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I spent an hour getting that score. We're playing within the game's mechanics (not cheating) of what it allows us to do. I really think we play it out as is (everyone has an equal shot to beat it - Oppery99er has taken to the challenge) - I don't think we should stick with the game if my score is discounted. I really want that Navarone. And anyone here can replicate my method at an attempt to beat me. So I think either we stick with it, or we change games, not change the rules. That would invalidate all my efforts and reporting. I get what you are saying, and your score was certainly obtained fair and square within the game rules. Frankly I'm not sure how we want to proceed here. I don't think many of us would want to try and challenge your score in the manner you did because it would not be that much fun to play, hence my suggestion. Can I please have a show of hands on one of the following 3 options? I'll go with the whatever the majority decides: Play JetPac in any way you wish trying to maximize your score Play JetPac with the modified rule I suggested Switch to a new game Let's try to get to a resolution quickly so we can get going with this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinphaltimus Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I'm going to refrain from voting - not out of protest but out of bias. I'll be fine with whatever the group decides. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) A lot of games are buggy, or are played in ways other than initially intended... The Super Mario Bros glitch where you jump on the turtle infinitely, increasing your extra lives up and beyond 100. In Morrowind, you can take a 100+ hour epic game and speed run it in 14 minutes by exploiting a suspect flag-checking mechanism. Many games have unique characteristics that make it seem buggy. I just think there are multiple ways to play the game. On my high score (so far) I did a bit of a combination of methods... I found a way to level out all the enemies to a flat trajectory below the platforms. I would then wait until an item dropped and then go to war by wiping out the enemies on my way down and then on my way back up again. Then it would take some time to train the bad guys to flatten back out, and then I would have to kill any that were flying above the platforms until they re-spawned below. Really just having fun trying new things, and I think thats part of the fun. Really starting to like this game. Edited February 4, 2018 by Opry99er 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 I get what you are saying, and your score was certainly obtained fair and square within the game rules. Frankly I'm not sure how we want to proceed here. I don't think many of us would want to try and challenge your score in the manner you did because it would not be that much fun to play, hence my suggestion. Can I please have a show of hands on one of the following 3 options? I'll go with the whatever the majority decides: Play JetPac in any way you wish trying to maximize your score Play JetPac with the modified rule I suggested Switch to a new game Let's try to get to a resolution quickly so we can get going with this Stick with this one whatever exploits are fine it's just a game and anyone can do them Sent from my LG-H830 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinphaltimus Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) I did take a short video last night demonstrating how I got it to work out for me. In the end, leaving the enemies alive below the platforms is what did me in because of air drops I couldn't grab in time. But the short video demonstrated the method flawlessly with the exception of missed air drops.I can't upload it now because I'm currently uploading an unrelated video to YT (and have about 2 more hours to go) - but when that clears, I'll share my JP short clip here.Sounds like you (Oppery993r) did pretty much the same thing I did except I never attacked the enemies after they settled below the platforms, I just avoided them as much as possible.In hindsight, my point in sharing was out of guilt. It felt like it was cheating at first. And I thought there was no way anyone else could play this game for a significant amount of time without making the same discovery.i don't cheat, I explore and exploit with what I'm given via the games I play themselves. My intent in sharing was to see if the community was OK with that in general OR we change games. Hence my BIAS in voting.It really was as simple as - Why do I have to leave now? How long can I stay here for and do the airdrops continue to fall?Vorticon - as an update to your version of the game, you may want to only do a fixed number of air drops. Say maybe 10 total to start +1 per level and increase their value by a lot (500 points). That would certainly force people to eventually leave the level because it's significantly harder to continually wipe out all enemies over and over again for too long when the reward for moving to the next level is so much better. I think that simple *fix* might mitigate this situation in the future. Edited February 4, 2018 by Sinphaltimus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) OK let's leave things as is then. I have revised the leaderboard accordingly. Omega I took your entry out since you bowed out. Let me know if you change your mind. Looking forward to Sinphaltimus' video to learn the new trick so I can meaningfully compete As for revising the game, I was actually thinking of placing countdown timer which starts as soon as a rocket is fully fueled to force the player to move on. But for that I will have to re-familiarize myself with the code and all that entails. Maybe at some point in the future... It's interesting that no one ever reported such an exploit in the original Spectrum JetPac, so I guess Sinphaltimus gets discovery credits! JetPac Leaderboard Sinphaltimus 30575 Opry99er 13775 Tursi 6000 Discgolfer72 4700 Vorticon 3825 Edited February 4, 2018 by Vorticon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Also, you dont have to fill the rocket up with fuel to exploit the platform *feature*.In this way, you dont see advancing as the goal, you look at advancing as a *bad thing*. On my high score, I accidentally ran into the fully fueled ship, and that is what sent me to the next level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I never even got a chance to start Super Demon Attack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I must admit I was really excited to see your scores, brother.... At least see how you handled the 2nd boss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I must admit I was really excited to see your scores, brother.... At least see how you handled the 2nd boss heheheheh I got distracted by floppy drives. Imma play anyway, but you know Comet is showing a marathon of "Andromeda" today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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