TPA5 #101 Posted November 2, 2015 Only on AtariAge can a thread about the value of games turn into petty arguments about the meaning of the word "nostalgia". 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jinks #102 Posted November 2, 2015 Only on AtariAge can a thread about the value of games turn into petty arguments about the meaning of the word "nostalgia".Well in Russian voice.."Not my Problem!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andromeda Stardust #103 Posted November 2, 2015 You obviously never heard my mama get filled with what I in my now infinite nostalgic wisdom a 10. It's like if you get hit in the balls. Every time you see someone get hit in the balls you know the "feeling". Wow has this thread really regressed to degenerate moma smack talk and ball kicking? Only on AtariAge... Ditto. ...can a thread about the value of games turn into petty arguments about the meaning of the word "nostalgia". Also agreed. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andromeda Stardust #104 Posted November 2, 2015 On the other hand, when I fire up PC engine games that I never play, and see the amazing graphisms and such, I fel something that is like nostalgia. Maybe this isn't nostalgia as defined by the Merriam-Webster dictionnary, but then English is lacking in that aera for that feeling, forcing us to use the closest feeling word to explain what it feels like. Now if all it take to end this is to agree is to use "that feeling like nostalgia but isn't because I wasn't here/didn't had those games" then fine. it's just annoying and bring nothing more to the thread. This is exactly the kind of feeling I'm talking about. Trbo grafx/PC Engine is an excellent example for many because we didn't know it existed when it was out. It doesn't have to specifically be joyful moments connected with your past childhood. You get the feeling "man they don't make 'em like they used to..." even when you're playing a 20 year old game for the first time, heck even if it's a brand new homebrew. Playing these games brings out a child-like joy in adults, and this feeling invokes nostalgia even if we have no memories associated with the game. Suppose I picked up a hidden gem yesterday at the game shop, or played a game off my shelf for the first time last night, even if I've had it for a while. Well now I have a positive memory associated with the game, even if it's less than 24 hours old. I also have nostalgia for picking up great games twelve years ago when retro collecting was plentiful and cheap. I wish I could go back in time and pick up that Bubble Bobble 2 I saw on the shelf, but passed up because the first one was "good enough." I think one could argue that playing games in the present creates nostalgia in addition to recalling it. Some people only want to play the games of their childhood; others want to play old games they've never played or new ones. These are equally valid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bretthorror #105 Posted November 2, 2015 Only on AtariAge can a thread about the value of games turn into petty arguments about the meaning of the word "nostalgia". This is exactly the kind of feeling I'm talking about. Trbo grafx/PC Engine is an excellent example for many because we didn't know it existed when it was out. It doesn't have to specifically be joyful moments connected with your past childhood. You get the feeling "man they don't make 'em like they used to..." even when you're playing a 20 year old game for the first time, heck even if it's a brand new homebrew. Playing these games brings out a child-like joy in adults, and this feeling invokes nostalgia even if we have no memories associated with the game. Suppose I picked up a hidden gem yesterday at the game shop, or played a game off my shelf for the first time last night, even if I've had it for a while. Well now I have a positive memory associated with the game, even if it's less than 24 hours old. I also have nostalgia for picking up great games twelve years ago when retro collecting was plentiful and cheap. I wish I could go back in time and pick up that Bubble Bobble 2 I saw on the shelf, but passed up because the first one was "good enough." I think one could argue that playing games in the present creates nostalgia in addition to recalling it. Some people only want to play the games of their childhood; others want to play old games they've never played or new ones. These are equally valid. Another post very well said and the reason I even entered the "nostalgia" discussion. I never had a Jaguar, but always wanted one, well, obviously I wanted everything game related, but who doesn't? So I finally get one and it was almost like young me gets to fire this cat up and see what it can do. I didn't know the Bally Astrocade existed until, I dunno, 8 years ago? Ever since I was young, I always wanted to try different systems, controllers, games, etc. just to see how they differed from the rest and the curiosity remained until I could actually buy all the crap to try it. I'm not playing this stuff to be taken back to when I was a kid because I never sold any of my games and I have never been the type to stop playing Super Mario Bros. because I got a newer system. Do I get nostalgic feelings and memories when I play games? Of course, literally anything can spark a memory and that's a good thing, but I don't wanna be rude, I always thought nostalgia was way down on the list as to why I am into this stuff and it always weirded me out that nostalgia would be a main draw to get back into this thing. Kind of like the 50 year old who gets the Corvette because he knows he's getting old. In the end, we're all cut from the same cloth as retro gamers, so it's really annoying that we'd single anyone out in the hobby (ie: "shelf collectors", "hipsters"). I always got eyes rolled at me for not caring if a movie was black & white and talking about art movies, and not in a snobby way, but there would be certain people who were generally consumers of mass media production who didn't know any better. I get those types, as wrong as they are, making fun of a hipster. But in 2015 for any retro gamer, whether they're pushing 30, 40, 50 to insult a 15 year old kid for liking old video games is like the pot calling the kettle black. I like a lot of shit from before I was born and whether it be music, movies, wrestling, sports, all of these things I've talked with dozens of times with people up to almost 3 times my age, if not more in my younger years, and they were all happy that some young kid knew about things they liked in times past and could hold a conversation about something they haven't thought of in years. Only in retro gaming would a kid getting into this be insulted by a lot of people in the niche over it. Even if it's a vocal minority, it's still absurd. Retro gaming is huge because it basically encompasses everything in a 30+ year span. Of the hundreds of millions who were into games, how could anyone be surprised there's still a huge amount of people wanting this stuff? And Ebay gave everyone a fair shot at accessing all of this stuff which would have been impossible to find before. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlepaddle #106 Posted November 2, 2015 I like this. It's much more accurate, and applies to every nostalgic-like feeling described above: As stated already... "that feeling like nostalgia but isn't because I wasn't here/didn't had those games" then fine.... I guess we can all agree that 1+1=2. Therefore let's also settle on 2+2=3, and 3+3=4 just to keep things consistent. Voila: Nostalgibra! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jinks #107 Posted November 3, 2015 Well I am going to slept. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thadsilverfox #108 Posted November 3, 2015 I remember the big rush in collectible cards in mid 90s. Price went crazy, there were bazillion different kinds of cards, and many more. Nowday I see a lot of 90's baseball card boxes at Goodwill for very cheap and often ends up in the hand of little kids who wants to play (and ruin them). Video games may not crash like that but sooner or later the collectors would give up because the price got too high that no one was willing to buy it and those people who wants quick cash would keep selling them cheap, flooding the market. I doubt there will ever be a video game crash and more of a price stabilization at some point. These are electronic pieces of equipment that occassionally breakdown and end up being parted out or thrown away so less and less are in circulation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites