What if...

[Htbaa]

What if this year and next year the latest jag games come out, won't the jag scene eventualy die after a few years since the latest release?

 

What if we are 10 years further, will you still be doing the math ().

 

I'm just curious, what do you think?

[t.skid]

I hope not....

[justice_is_blind]

What if Hasbro releases the Jaguar greatest hit's collection for new consoles?

 

What if Jaysmith2000 wasn't really into the Jaguar?

 

What if the Jaguar had taken Japan by storm?

[LinkoVitch]

the number of people in the scene will probably reduce slightly, and new faces will appear but I am sure there will still be a few core members of the scene that will hold fast with the Jag and continue to develope for it. Hopefully I will be one of them

 

I have no intent of leaving the scene.... (well untill my kids have me locke din an insaine asylum for rabling on about Llamas )

[t.skid]

the number of people in the scene will probably reduce slightly, and new faces will appear but I am sure there will still be a few core members of the scene that will hold fast with the Jag and continue to develope for it.  Hopefully I will be one of them

 

I have no intent of leaving the scene.... (well untill my kids have me locke din an insaine asylum for rabling on about Llamas )

 

 

We could also take a look at the VCS situation: seems a 'dead system'? I don't think, lot of new releases, re-releases, homebrews etc. Sure, Jag had a smaller market, but lot of hardcore fans, as LinkoVitch says

[Htbaa]

Yeah you're right. But lets say, 10 years from now, won't you regret that you put loads of money in a system which is totaly forgotten by then?

[+Saturn]

Yeah you're right. But lets say, 10 years from now, won't you regret that you put loads of money in a system which is totaly forgotten by then?

I won't

 

Saturn

[t.skid]

Saturn, I'm with you

[Gunstar]

it won't be forgotten, just like other classic systems that have been around since the beginning, have not been forgotten and have their fan bases and new hombrew software coming out; Intellivison, colecovison, Vectrex, Odyssey2, 2600, 5200, 7800, TG-16, the list goes on and on and is actually growing with these classic systems and new stuff coming out for them. It's been 8 years already since the Jag officially died, and it hasn't slipped into oblivion yet, many a game and demo has been released in those years, even more are in the works/coming. There are now more underground developers doing things of all sizes, large and small, than ever! There will always be a core fanbase, I'll always be one of those at the center of it, and am myself, getting into developing new products for the Jaguar with others...in ten years, there may be an even larger fanbase and development base as more becomes available and as the system truely becomes a classic like the older counterparts listed above...IMHO.

[t.skid]

Gunstar: Don't you find 'odd' to think about Jaguar as a 'classic' system?

2003 is 10th anniversary of Jaguar, but I can't think about it but as 'actual'. Ok, maybe I'm too much a fan

PSX2, xBox etc are lot ahead of Jag, but I'm not interested in it...

[walter_J64bit]

Ive think as the J64 emulators with a debuger get better there well be more homebrews! Ill be raedy to use my Jugs

[LinkoVitch]

in 10 years time we might see projects like we see for the 2600. like a handheld Jag, or a jag on a chip. Sounds crazy now, but in a few years times it may very well be possible. Hell someone could release their own sequel to the Jaguar itself or finish off the Jaguar 2.

 

It's just like old movies.. the fan base for Rocky Horror picture show I am sure grows each year, along with other classics (DARK STAR! YAY! )

[Thunderbird]

The Jaguar is going to get more and more people involved. People will get more interested because the system has been given a bad reputation and a lot more people will start to become curious and spread the word about it!

[JagMX]

ever since the Jag officially took a final leave of absence, (dont want to use the "d" word )

i think there have been more people interested i nthe Jag since then. it wont ever die, its still been goin on this long,

look at the 2600, geez almost cant bleive thats still being worked on

[dirtboy69]

if the atari 2600 is like 20 so odd years old and is still a fairly big market i don't think anyone has to worry about the jag market going bad. and you should watch bad mouthing things on this site you might be told your trolling

[jaysmith2000]

Personally I think the Jaguar fan-base is expanding. As the last Atari system and one with some of the most fascinating "unreleased" games and hardware prototypes I think this will only continue..... Atari was always ahead of the times and the Jaguar clearly proves that with the Jagmodem, Web Cortina and Jag VR.

 

Jason

[GOVmole]

Negative, if I pour all my money into Playstation 2 right now, in 10 years the ps2 will have less fans than the Jaguar. Some of its nostalgia, and modern game systems lack that special something. You gotta respect anyone developing for the Jaguar right now, hey your talking to someone who spent $250 for the Jaguar when it was released and I don't have any regrets. I hope and know the Jag scene will be alive in 2013. maybe less, maybe more, but fans will be out there.

[GOVmole]

BTW, that last post was in response to Htbaa's earlier post

[kevincal]

I'm curious.... how long will a Jag last as far as working and playing games?...20 years? 50 years? Would there be any way possible to manufacture "new" Jags?

[shep]

I think that once the emulators become more stable and solid, and the information for newcomers becomes easier to comprehend and not so scary to try, thats when the Jaguar will really see some excellence....and until then we need the current "homebrewers?" (dont really know what you call your self, independent developers?) to show some neat little games to gain the interest of more talented coders...

[Htbaa]

Well I'm glad everyone will stay supporting the Jaguar . And I think you guys are right, how longer the Jaguar excists, how more interested people come etc. When I mod my Jaguar with a BJL BIOS it will be for loading demo's in the first place. Later I might go try to write some simple games, who knows .

[Paolo]

I'm curious.... how long will a Jag last as far as working and playing games?...20 years? 50 years?  Would there be any way possible to manufacture "new" Jags?

 

Think that the exact time I bought a Jag, after reading that cartridge memory save 'limitations' I started worrying how long it could really last a cartridge to me!

 

Now I know that it will last forever (just need to buy a new one after 10 years of playing )

[LinkoVitch]

I'm curious.... how long will a Jag last as far as working and playing games?...20 years? 50 years?  Would there be any way possible to manufacture "new" Jags?

 

Think that the exact time I bought a Jag, after reading that cartridge memory save 'limitations' I started worrying how long it could really last a cartridge to me!

 

Now I know that it will last forever (just need to buy a new one after 10 years of playing )

 

pretty sure you could just replace the EEPROM in the cart for a new one, and it would be back and working again.

[Gunstar]

IIRC, quite a while ago, I'm not even sure if it was back when I still hung out at JI2 or if it was here, but I asked some similiar questions about Jaguar cart eeproms and their life expectancy, and I believe it was T-bird that told me that there really isn't a "10 year lifespan" so to speak. It's not like the cart eeproms will just wear out or stop working once they are ten years old, that's just an extimated time that Atari put on the carts IF you use them regularly AND save over and over again. They are capable of more than 100,000 re-writes and will not fail until this limit is reached, 10 years is an estimate if you continually save games a lot from using the games regualarly (like as much as you did when you first got the game). I certainly am not constantly overwriting my previous saved games, and there are only about a dozen games that I do still play on a regualr basis, which is still a bit less than in '95, because I also own a lot of other consoles, both new and old now, so my playtime is spread out more over them all. The bottom line is that if you've only saved a game on a cart say, 200 times since you've owned it, then you probably still have about 90,800 saves to go before it wears out. IIRC. It's not like they run on a battery that will run out of power or anything...I doubt I've saved more than about 25 times at the most, even on the carts I've played a lot. So I figure that eeprom may last me the rest of my life, maybe longer...correct me if I wron T-bird, or am remembering what you told me wrong or something. Regardless, if I'm right or wrong, it doesn't mean the game won't still work, you just won't be able to save your progress anymore.

[Thunderbird]

I'm curious.... how long will a Jag last as far as working and playing games?...20 years? 50 years?  Would there be any way possible to manufacture "new" Jags?

 

Think that the exact time I bought a Jag, after reading that cartridge memory save 'limitations' I started worrying how long it could really last a cartridge to me!

 

Now I know that it will last forever (just need to buy a new one after 10 years of playing )

 

pretty sure you could just replace the EEPROM in the cart for a new one, and it would be back and working again.

 

 

Try replacing the EEPROM without ripping the decal... good luck!!!!!