juice2839 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Okay here is the first ever (That I am aware of) Colecovision with scaled HDMI output right from the back. It can output 720p or 1080p. I don't have a good CV power supply so I use a switching power supply to run it. It works perfect and looks amazing. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymiester Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Awesome!! The line starts here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980gamer Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 okay, seconds not a bad place in line... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBrian Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Are those screws on the top of the console ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice2839 Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 Are those screws on the top of the console ? Yes. Being that it is the prototype I was not going for any beauty contests. I planned on getting some little pan head or carriage bolts to make it look pretty. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValkerieSilk Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I WANT ONE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chart45 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 could you make a video with bagman or pacman collection to see if this mod fliker or not compare to a f18a 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice2839 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 could you make a video with bagman or pacman collection to see if this mod fliker or not compare to a f18a There is no flicker. It's perfect. I can take video of it. The problem is the equipment I have to take video will probably make it look bad. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 There is no flicker. It's perfect. I can take video of it. The problem is the equipment I have to take video will probably make it look bad. LOL Wait, so the HDMI mod gets rid of sprite flicker? I thought that was inherent in the original graphics processor of the CV having to do with how many sprites are on a scan line and not the output of the system? Does this HDMI mod alter the graphics processor also? Yeah, I'd really like to see a video of Pac-Man Collection or Bagman. Those two would certainly help me make my decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice2839 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) Wait, so the HDMI mod gets rid of sprite flicker? I thought that was inherent in the original graphics processor of the CV having to do with how many sprites are on a scan line and not the output of the system? Does this HDMI mod alter the graphics processor also? Yeah, I'd really like to see a video of Pac-Man Collection or Bagman. Those two would certainly help me make my decision. Flicker has to do with persistence of vision. The original CV hardware is intact, but due to the nature of LCD TV's refresh your eyes are fooled into not seeing any flicker (at least mine are). Edited October 10, 2015 by juice2839 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Flicker has to do with persistence of vision. The original CV hardware is intact, but due to the nature of LCD TV's refresh your eyes are fooled into not seeing any flicker (at least mine are). But the flicker is technically still there? Sorry for all the questions, I'm just trying to wrap my head around what this mod does and how it looks. And forgive me for not being as much of a tech-savvy person as I'm sure other people here are, so maybe they can answer this question better, but what I'm trying to understand with your HDMI mod, if I put in a cart like Bagman or Pac-Man Collection, which both have sprite flicker to the point where some sprites will disappear on screen (Burgertime does this too if all the characters are in a row), will all the sprites be on screen without any flicker or is the flicker still there? I'm just trying to understand how this mod removes the sprite flicker without altering the hardware, which is by my understanding, what causes the sprite flicker (the hardware). But I may be totally wrong on this. So I guess my question really is: Does this mod remove the sprite flicker or does it just enhance the quality of the picture with the sprite flicker still there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Here is a video I did comparing an AV mod vs the F18A mod. You can clearly see the sprite flicker in the AV footage where the F18A totally gets rid of it. The F18A replaces the graphics processor on the ColecoVision to remove the sprite flicker. How does your mod remove the sprite flicker without altering the graphics processor? Does your mod look like the F18A clips in this video without the sprite flicker? Or does it look like a better version of the AV clips? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice2839 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) But the flicker is technically still there? Sorry for all the questions, I'm just trying to wrap my head around what this mod does and how it looks. And forgive me for not being as much of a tech-savvy person as I'm sure other people here are, so maybe they can answer this question better, but what I'm trying to understand with your HDMI mod, if I put in a cart like Bagman or Pac-Man Collection, which both have sprite flicker to the point where some sprites will disappear on screen (Burgertime does this too if all the characters are in a row), will all the sprites be on screen without any flicker or is the flicker still there? I'm just trying to understand how this mod removes the sprite flicker without altering the hardware, which is by my understanding, what causes the sprite flicker (the hardware). But I may be totally wrong on this. So I guess my question really is: Does this mod remove the sprite flicker or does it just enhance the quality of the picture with the sprite flicker still there? It just enhance the quality of the picture with the sprite flicker still there. That's the non tech answer. Edited October 10, 2015 by juice2839 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 It just enhance the quality of the picture with the sprite flicker still there. That's the non tech answer. Ok, thank you. Looking forward to seeing you post a video of the results! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice2839 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 Are those screws on the top of the console ? Here you go I used some small 4-40 black carriage bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValkerieSilk Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Saw it listed tonight. ... Are there plans to offer the mod ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 There is no flicker. It's perfect. I can take video of it. The problem is the equipment I have to take video will probably make it look bad. LOL It be good to see video of it to compare to the F18A mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice2839 Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 It be good to see video of it to compare to the F18A mod. Yurkie made a video. This is what it looks like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chart45 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 who bought this unit someone here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice2839 Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 who bought this unit someone here? Someone in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chart45 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 cool happy that you sell this unit for a good price that way youll be able to buy a nice cam to put a video of this unit with out the yurkie upscaler and pause image ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Yurkie Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Just so everyone knows this is basically the RGB mod that I paid Juice a ton of money to have the exclusive ColecoVision rights to, and he is adding an internal HDMI scaler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Just so everyone knows this is basically the RGB mod that I paid Juice a ton of money to have the exclusive ColecoVision rights to, and he is adding an internal HDMI scaler. So are we to understand that he's doing this without your consent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Yurkie Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 So are we to understand that he's doing this without your consent? Absolutely. He is basically breaking our contract. And I asked him not to offer this privately as soon as I heard of it and he wouldn't respect my request. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBrian Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Very shady indeed ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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