The Mr. Video Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Hi, today I got an NTSC c64 breadbox/breadbin model. It probably wont be delivered until sometime next week. But in the meantime, what kind of good games are there for it? And also, what kind of PAL games will work with an NTSC c64? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+wongojack Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Lemon64 has a very vetted list of top games. Point and click adventures (Maniac Mansion etc) are usually near the top. Pirates! happens to be my favorite game of all time and the Bard's Tale series almost always gets mentioned. The Turrican series originated here and the Summer Games family by Epyx really brings back positive memories. C64 was also where I first encountered HERO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I loved Toy Bizarre: youtube.com/watch?v=q2o4IGHi4Ww https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2o4IGHi4Ww 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertB Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 The frenetic Crossroads and Crossroads II from Compute's! Gazette magazine. Great for one player or two players! Truly, Robert Bernardo Fresno Commodore User Group http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7800fan Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 If you liked sci-fi exploration, Starflight is pretty good. That game and Ultima series were responsible for my poor school grade (a measly 2.5 GPA) I also had lots of fun with Dragon Wars. It's rather difficult game to solve back in the day when the only way to find hint outside the game was to find a clue book or have a local BBS that had people who knew the game. My book store never had DW hint book, refused to order it (maybe it was OOP?) and the local BBS were mainly filled with people who were more interested in education than gaming. (Arbornet and 300bps modem sucks BTW) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam242 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Bruce Lee II. http://kollektivet.nu/brucelee2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Mancopter is always a favorite I still enjoy. It's like a race-based Joust variation. Impossible Mission is another classic, as is Bruce Lee. Archon is another favorite. Etc. The good thing is that there are probably hundreds of good games for it, so finding stuff to play won't be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassGuitari Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Some favorites of mine of the top of my head:Blue Max Ghosts 'N' Goblins Leather Goddesses of Phobos Street Fighter (yes, seriously, lol) Beach Head II Space Taxi Threshold Ms. Pac-Man Defender Gorf As you can see, I have an inclination toward arcade games that involve shooting stuff, but there is an absolute wealth of great games (of most genres) for the Commodore 64. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Soooo many great games to list... if you're into classic arcade games, anything by Atarisoft, Parker Bros., CBS, etc. - the stuff originally released on cartridge are excellent for what they are. Wizard of Wor stands out as particularly good. Pinball Construction Set, Ghouls 'n Ghosts/Ghosts and Goblins also.Then there's the multitude of RPG's, space exploration, point and click adventures, text adventures, sims, driving games - C64 really is a great little system.Oh and I don't have the links handy, but an improved Ultima with enhanced graphics was recently released as was a DK Jr. conversion and Ghosts N Goblins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 On the question which PAL games will work with NTSC, the general answer is that early games and simple games tend to work. There is no region lock on the C64, instead the difference is purely technical and relates to number of lines on the screen. NTSC has a total of 525 lines per frame, PAL has 625 lines. If a PAL game is set to change graphics mode at a certain raster line, when run on a NTSC machine it might happen at a different position on the display than intended. Many games also will wait for the raster beam to be outside the visual area and do calculations, and if the number of lines are fewer, the routine might not be finished until a new frame has happened, causing disturbance. On the good side, NTSC with fewer lines per frame gives a faster frame rate so games will play faster, perhaps more commonly observed on consoles than computers. Generally a good idea is to try games in emulation, where you can switch between PAL and NTSC. See if the game behaves well in your desired mode, and if it does, you can transfer it to the real machine. Some games are available in separate versions, at least the more complex ones. Sometimes games need quite heavy reprogramming to work in the other mode, I remember the European release of Epyx Pitstop II was delayed by quite a while when converting from NTSC to PAL, and there probably are plenty of examples of the opposite. When it comes to favorite games, you already got plenty of suggestions and I confirm that the Lemon64 top lists are fairly accurate, in particular if you adjust the number of votes required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHW Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Ms. Pac-Man Ghosts'n Goblins Ghouls'n Ghosts The Last Ninja Impossible Mission Space Taxi Bruce Lee Summer/Winter/California/World Games http://www.gamebase64.com/is a good site for C64 stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHW Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Some more: Deceptor Donkey Kong Jr. (this is a recent homebrew though, excellent) Bruce Lee II (recent homebrew) Sword of Fargoal (slow dungeon crawler, if you're into that, otherwise don't bother) Ghosts'n Goblins Arcade (recent homebrew remake, superb but the original is still amazing) I think there were sequels to the Last Ninja you should check out Pitstop II Test Drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHW Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 OMG and how could I forget: Airwolf! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris++ Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Raid on Bungeling Bay (Broderbund) Airborne Ranger (MicroProse) Dino Eggs (Micro Fun) Oil's Well (Sierra On-Line) Wizball (Ocean) Archon (Electronic Arts) Z [AKA Z-Pilot] (Rino) Montezuma's Revenge (Parker Bros.) Demon Stalkers and its sequel, Fire King (Electronic Arts) Miner 2049er and its sequel, Bounty Bob Strikes Back! (Big Five) ...as well as the superb arcade translations; the following are better on the C64 than on any other '80s platform: Zaxxon (Synapse) Mr. Do! (Datasoft) Q*Bert (Parker Brothers) Wizard of Wor (Commodore) Crystal Castles (Thundervision) Battle Zone, Centipede, Donkey Kong, Moon Patrol, Ms. Pac-Man and Jr. Pac-Man (Atarisoft) ...and finally, you've got Activision's amazing conversions of Atari 2600 originals, specifically H.E.R.O. and Pitfall II: Lost Caverns. Also, what everyone else said. Edited November 18, 2015 by Chris++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertB Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 save2600 wrote: > ...an improved Ultima with enhanced graphics was recently released... After Ultima IV Gold was released several years ago, Per Olofsson released the even more improved Ultima IV Remastered at http://magervalp.github.io/2015/03/30/u4-remastered.html FCUG celebrating 34 years this month, Robert Bernardo Fresno Commodore User Group http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwalla Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Even though I enjoy the C64 purely on emulation in modern times (using WinVice 2.1 that offers load and save states), here are many of my favorite games for the last 30+ years: Dino Eggs Raid Over Moscow Donkey Kong Telengard Zaxxon Beach Head I, II Jumpman Sargon III Chess Wasteland Who Dares Wins I, II Commando Winter Games Summer Games I,II Choplifter Bandits Mr. Robot & His Robot Factory Pinball Construction Set Star League Baseball Boulderdash Gyruss Uridium Zone Ranger Wizard of Wor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) EA Project Firestart classic. Mindscape The Halley's Project absolute great, Origin's Omega 100% strategy gameplay, Activision's Portal is an underrated classic, Plundered Hearts from Infocom, lovely game, Grand Prix Circuit by Accolade. and all of the Gold boxes from SSI. There's a few good UK made games too, like The last Ninja trilogy, Level 9 adventures (Snowball, The Worm in Paradise), System 7 games generally are good, some Jeff Minter stuff has great gameplay, Hewson's Stormlord 1 and 2 are good. Edited November 26, 2015 by high voltage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHW Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Racing Destruction Set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+wongojack Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I asked a question in the Lemon64 chat about being able to do more with the rankings on the site (view by publisher, year, genre, etc). I don't think you can do that, but someone did link me to this post where it seems someone manually figured out the top 500 C64 games of all time (as of 2013): http://gamescollection.forumcommunity.net/?t=53800849 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 On this link, you can at least adjust the number of votes required: http://www.lemon64.com/games/votes_list.php It'd be nice to have lists of top 50 of each genre, or top 50 of games published before 1986 but then again voting is subjective even if the number of voters hopefully is large enough to get a fair result. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Trolls and Tribulations Satan's Hollow Ghost 'n' Goblins Cybernoid I and II DuoTris Bump 'n Jump Gyruss Shadow of the Beast Blackhawk Gunship Super Pac-Man Bruce Lee Mutants Thing on a Spring Vixen In no particular order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karokoenig Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Did anyone already mention Paradroid yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSG Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I enjoy Qbert on the C64. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I enjoy Qbert on the C64. Actually Q*bert is very well done on the C64, as well as most other platforms (the TI-99/4A conversion is surprisingly good.) I also forgot about Arkanoid and Arkanoid II, Aztec Challenge, and Lazy Jones. And Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I'll see your Ballblazer and raise the bid with Trailblazer and Hypa-Ball! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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