avanze Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I just bought a Sanyo HDTV 1080p and I am thinking of acquiring an Atari 65XE ntsc version. I would be using the monitor cable RCA connectors; the big question is, will this give me full color? Also, it will be plugged into a AV2HDMI converter which produces a digital signal for the HDMI. Thoughts, and help on this matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbking67 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 It depends on how the Tv interprets the Atari... none of my HDTV's work right--usually the image is squished or off center. Personally I use a DVDO iscan upscaler to fix the image so I can work on a digital monitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACML Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I just bought a Sanyo HDTV 1080p and I am thinking of acquiring an Atari 65XE ntsc version. I would be using the monitor cable RCA connectors; the big question is, will this give me full color? Also, it will be plugged into a AV2HDMI converter which produces a digital signal for the HDMI. Thoughts, and help on this matter. If the 65XE has a monitor cable, check this out. http://atariage.com/forums/topic/236810-inexpensive-s-video-or-composite-to-hdmi-video-up-converter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanmercer Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 It depends on how the Tv interprets the Atari... none of my HDTV's work right--usually the image is squished or off center. Same, that's why I have 3 - Commodore 1702's, 1 - Commodore 1802 and a Sony PVM security monitor (that is my daily driver). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I have a 21" PVM... It used to be my daily driver but it's a behemoth, had to rotate a 1702 into the fray instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avanze Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 I took the plunge and bought a XRGB Mini Framemeister. I'm thinking of using the Atari 65XE s-video with this device. Anyone have any experience with the Framemeister with computers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morelenmir Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Although obviously not the same machine, my PAL 800XL displays via the monitor socket to a composite video-out pretty well on my old Bravia. At least as good as the horrible monitor output ever gets. If I take RGB SCART from the VBXE the picture is amazingly good. In regards the various line-doublers/upscalers, it seems to be a very mixed bag right across the board. Some people report good results with £20 units while others get lagginess and ghosting while using a £200+ machine. Generally speaking, every time someone posts about connecting the video from there A8 to a modern television I advise them to fit a VBXE. However, without a SCART socket on your TV you are again caught in a bit of cleft stick and either need to go via VGA to an antique multiscan monitor or are forced once again to use an upscaler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifthPlayer Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I'm curious to hear about your experience with the 65XE and the XRGB Framemeister. I have a 130XE that doesn't work well with the two cheapy HDMI converters I tried - one from Monoprice, the other one the Portta converter. It seems like the 130XE has the worst s-video of any machine in the A8 famlily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbking67 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 the Framemesiter is supposed to be very good with Atari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avanze Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 Results to follow, probably next week or so. It will be s-video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avanze Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 Update: I have the s-video cable now and the 65XE works perfectly, in full color, with no problems at all. I am pleased with the Framemeister so far. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detroit Cobra Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I have a 130XE hooked up through the Framemeister with S-Video cable and I am getting vertical lines across the entire screen. Is this normal? When I turn on scan lines on the Framemeister, then I get a cross-hatch pattern. Is there an S-Video mod for the 130XE that I am not aware of or could it just be an issue with the cable I bought? I do not get any vertical lines hooking up to the Framemeister through RF via a VCR. I will say that the clarity of the image is like night and day with S-Video over normal RF. Very nice. Just wish those vertical lines would go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detroit Cobra Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 So it looks like it was the S-Video cable. I purchased another one and now the vertical lines are gone. However, it looks like I am getting a little interference of some sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBRpilot Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 As others have said, it does seem to depend on the tv. Depends on the TV's up-scaling along with whether your tv has a full scan, over-scanned or under-scanned. Bad up-scaling can result in a crummy looking picture and is one of the main causes I think of retro machines looking bad on HDTVs. My 32" Sanyo that I use for all my retro gaming works well for me because it has decent up-scaling (though I've seen better) and seven different screen sizes moving from standard full screen to under-scanned to overs-scanned so I can always find a good fit for what ever I'm using at the time (My brother's Bravia has a lot less options making it less suitable for retro gaming without additional hardware) I'd recommend giving composite video a try before going with separate video (composite video cables are cheap and you can even make your own, though I like Best Electronics's shielded cables. Where 8-bit machines are concerned, the choice is purely a mater of taste. Though I have tried S-video, I personally find that I prefer composite video for both my Atari 800 and my Commodore 128, it just looks better to me when running games. I also prefer it for my Atari 2600, Colecovision, Intellivision, NES and SMS systems as well. I do use and prefer S-Video for all my 16-bit systems though. My recommendation is always, play around before shelling out for adapters. You might like what you see and if you don't, you can always get an adapter afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avanze Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 I get some interference on the s-video too, but most of the time it is unnoticeable when playing a game, if your tv has noise reduction this might help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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