+pboland #26 Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) ...what if somehow you had the lesser known console growing up or even later on in life? What if instead of a 2600, you had the Odyssey 2 or Intellivision. How would your opinion of gaming change and do you think you would have been satisfied with your system? What a cool topic idea. I'm chiming in because I am one of those kids growing up that had the lesser know consoles. I'm hoping that this will shed a light little on the climate of video gaming at the time (at least from a kids perspective). I'm most likely not the oldest of gamers on this forum, but I'm am in the older range (I'm guessing) at 42. My first memory of video games was playing a pong clone made by Radio Shack when I was about five years old. That would put me at 1978. I knew a couple other people at the time had a pong game, but none of them looked (meaning the console itself) the same as the next. X-mas of '79 we got Odyssey2. This was the system we had through the crash. I knew of three families at the time that had OD2 and two families that had Atari 2600. Yes, the Atari 2600 ended up being the number one system from that generation, but it was not alway certain that would be the case back then. I didn't know anyone that had Intellivision. I only remember seeing them in the commercials on TV and thinking it would be so neat to have that console. In 1982/3 my older bother's friend got ColecoVision. He brought it over our house a couple times. I really thought that was the future of video gaming. That became the must have system in my mind. I remember asking if we could get one, but it never happened. Instead my dad came home with an IBM PCjr. We were not a tech computer savvy family. My dad never bought any games for the PCjr. It was meant to do work and anyway he figured out that these computer magazines had games you could type in the computer and play. So, he would bring home a small stack of magazines and tell me to type in the games if I wanted to play a game on the computer. Keep in mind I was only about 10 years, my reading skill were not up to snuff (dyslexia has that effect), and I knew nothing about programing. At the same time my cousin got an Atari 800XL. I remember thinking the Atari 800XL was a real computer and not like our crapy PCjr. But, my dad wouldn't buy an Atari 800 XL because he already put money into the PCjr. About 1984 or so I started looking at gaming/computer magazines and that would lead to my next gaming console. X-mas of 1986 I ask for and got a Sega Master System. Based on reading magazines and trying one out at a local department store I decide that SMS was better than the NES. Also, one of my friends at the time already got an NES for his B-day a couple months early. I thought it would be a good idea to have a different system than him so we could play more/different games. It is important to note once again, the NES being number one in that generation was not a given yet. After that x-mas I knew three family (not the same three as before incase you are wondering) that had SMS and one family that had NES and yet one other family that got an Atari 7800 after that Christmas. The truth is the NES wouldn't dominate until about 1987. I only point that out because many younger gamers seem to think that the NES came out in 1985 (only test marketed in NY, NY) and just took over the video game bis. Just for the record, most people in the US didn't see an actual NES until Christmas season of 1986 and it wasn't until Christmas season of 1987 that the NES took the throne. I stuck with my SMS and I'm glad I did. At this point I cut grass to help pay for my games. I ended up getting Sega Scope 3-D, Phantasy Star, and a few other game that you just couldn't get on NES. It was my house that friends wanted to stay over and play SMS because they all had NES and the same set of games. My SMS was something else to do when we were done playing NES. I stuck with sega till the end. After the SMS I got Genesis, then Saturn, N64, Dreamcast, and Game Cube. My kids have 3dDS and Wii U, I don't really play modern games these days. The Dreamcast was the last system I bought for myself when it was new. I lost interest in modern gaming after that. Today I stick to my 80's arcades and pre 1990 stuff mainly. Looking back I'm glad I didn't always have the most popular system. My friends to this day, tend to talk about the games I had than the NES that they all had. Don't know if that really adds anything to the conversation, but that's my story. Edited November 30, 2015 by pboland 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DustyKramKram #27 Posted November 30, 2015 Got my first system, an NES, when I was 3 years old. After that a Game Boy, SNES, and then Genesis. I didn't even know anything existed that wasn't Nintendo or Sega for the longest time, probably until I was in middle school. I didn't even touch an Atari 2600 until college. Had I been given a TurboGrafx-16 or Intellivision or something like that, I would've likely felt like I was missing out on something. All my friends growing up invariably had Nintendo and/or Sega consoles. I can only guess that I would've foolishly gotten rid of my lesser known machine for a Nintendo or Sega, only to regret getting rid of it when I reached my current age. As it stands, I still have most of the consoles I acquired growing up, and I'm happy about that. But I do envy people who fondly recall their childhoods with the "bastard children" of retro gaming consoles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fdr4prez #28 Posted November 30, 2015 I could see someone avoiding Star Wars if they hated sci-fi movies (I'd almost put it more in the "fantasy" genre, but that's another topic). I don't mean to put words in anyone's mouths but I'm going to assume fdr4prez had at least a passing interest in video games in the decades since the Crash, and it's just interesting to me that, based on that assumption, he never played another system in that time. But I get it, real life happens and when it does, video games usually aren't a priority. (Apologies to fdr4prez, for talking about you like you aren't here. And FWIW Channel F, Intellivision, and Atari VCS are some of the systems I find most interesting. ) He explicitly wrote about never have touched a console past the Intellivision. That isn't to say he didn't spend the second half the 80's playing C64 for all he could muster, in order to later upgrade to either an Atari ST or Amiga and eventually get into strategy games on the PC platform. It seems easy to forget that you can play games on other devices than consoles, and in particular at the time of the "crash", it was natural to get into home computers anyway. Once you're settled in with a C64, why get a NES? Once you have disk boxes full of Amiga games, what does a Genesis add to your gaming experience? Besides, I find most of the consoles mentioned in this thread to be rather mainstream for their time period. I was expecting to read horror stories about people who got "stuck" with Arcadia 2001, Creativision, Super Cassette Vision, or in newer days a Playdia, Pippin etc. No worries. I know making posts would lead to people responding to them And I just recalled that my grandparents had a Pong type of console, so that is one more console I get to mark off my checklist. I did have a C64 for a short stint in the early '90s. I don't recall how I got it, or where it went, but I didn't have it very long. I got my first PC in the mid-90s and played a lot of Zork types, XCOM: UFO Defense and other PC games, and really never needed to go back to consoles. One of the reasons why I got the Gamecube for my kids was that they kept screwing up my computer. So they started with PC games, but moved to consoles. These days they rarely touch the PC unless it is for homework or Internet, but not really for games. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutsy Doodleheimer #29 Posted December 1, 2015 When I was a kid I had the more popular consoles. The first I played was the Atari 2600. It was the Light Sixer model the fam bought in 1981. Then the NES in 1988, the Genesis in 1991, and the SNES in 1992. As I got well in my teens I bought a N64 and Playstation in 1997. My first I bought on the lesser known side was the Saturn in 1998. And as the millennium hit I started purchasing older systems and collecting systems and games to add to my game room and getting the new releases except I'm not interested in a PS4 or Xbox One. I got a lot of the ones I wanted. And am soon getting a Channel F model 1 (pending shipping)into the game room which will be my oldest console and I have always wanted one of these puppies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ubersaurus #30 Posted December 1, 2015 We got a 7800 before getting an NES, on account of having a sizable 2600 library already. I never really had any complaints - I liked my 7800 games, I liked playing my 2600 games, and later when we got the NES, I liked playing all three libraries. I did get an N64 in the late 90s, and also dug the games that came out on there... but I did recognize there was a lot more good stuff on the Playstation once my parents got one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Havoc 2049 #31 Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) If you want to find the most extreme example of the 'what if, how would I have turned out' poke your head into a jag forum sometime. Good luck in there, you'll need it... Atariage actually has one of the more civil jag forums out there (thanks to selective banning, I'm sure), but even it's still largely rage and drama. I also wonder if the Neo Geo community got how it is, because the odd niche of their system happened to be largely populated by odd people from the beginning, or if the main website for their community just scared all the 'normals' off with pics of turgid man-parts. I've been part of the Jaguar community since 1993 and it isn't that bad. Tons of cool people over the years that have contributed to the community and brought tons of lost games, new games and hardware to fans of the Jaguar. The amount of games and hardware that passionate Atarians have brought to the Jaguar post-Atari from 1996 to present is truly amazing. I find most of the drama that is started in the Jaguar community is started by the "Jaguar Sucks!" and "Atari Sucks!" fanboys that love to troll Atari forums. I was one of those gamers that switched from consoles to computers because of the crash, as I wanted to keep playing new games in the mid 80's and console scene was dead for a couple of years. I went from the 2600 & Colecovision to the C-64 & Atari ST and felt no need to get a NES, SMS or 7800. I spent the 90's and early 2000's on the less mainstream and fringe systems, with the Atari Lynx, Atari Jaguar, Sega Saturn, Nuon, NeoGeo Pocket Color and Dreamcast. Edited December 1, 2015 by Major Havoc 2049 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eltigro #32 Posted December 1, 2015 Um... I had a TurboGrafx-16 growing up. Never had a Genesis or SNES until I was older. So, I guess I kind of did live the "what if" scenario put forth here. I played a lot of Blazing Lazers, Legendary Axe, and Keith Courage. I remember renting Splatterhouse, but didn't like it. Never rented it again and everyone else seems to think it's great. I also remember renting Ninja Spirit (loved it), Psychosis (it was okay), and Neutopia (liked it). I had a turbo tap and extra controller so, I remember renting World Class Baseball, Bomberman, and Military Madness and playing with my best friend. My brother in law had a SNES on release day (iirc) and we played the hell out of Super Mario World, but I don't remember a lot of other games that we played a lot. Actually, other than Super Mario World, I don't remember any other games he owned. I remember renting Actraiser, Donkey Kong Country, and F-Zero... but other than that... Other than those, I had a 2600 (instead of Intellivision/Colecovision/Whatever), I had an NES (instead of SMS), I had a Playstation (instead of Saturn/N64), I had Playstation 2 (instead of XBox/Gamecube... got Gamecube before Wii came out, but got an XBox after 360 came out). So I've usually gotten the "popular choice" in consoles. But if I hadn't... If I got the SMS, I probably would have played a lot of Hang On and Alex Kidd. I probably would have wanted Phantasy Star, but not been able to convince parents to get it for me. I would have played a lot of Safari Hunt, too, since I played a lot of Duck Hunt on my NES. And if I had had the SMS, it probably would have made me want to get a Genesis instead of a TG-16. I would have played a lot of the arcade games they had for it (Golden Axe, Altered Beast, Space Harrier) because I liked them in the arcades. I would have played a lot of Sonic, as well. If I got the Saturn, I probably would have played a lot of Daytona or Virtua Cop. I never really cared for the 1 on 1 fighting games, and there were a ton of those this "generation". I didn't play them on the Playstation either. I played some of Nights during this time, but wasn't impressed, so I wouldn't have gotten that. Probably some 2D shooters like Darius Gaiden. If I got the N64 (a popular choice once it came out, but I didn't have it then), I know I would have played a ton of Super Mario 64, but nothing else really was that interesting to me. I probably would have had Zelda OoT, Mario Kart 64, and maybe Goldeneye, but can't really think of many more that would have interested me. I didn't like Starfox on the SNES, so I wasn't that interested in the N64 version. Diddy Kong Racing felt like a rip off of Mario Kart 64, so meh. Didn't like Blast Corps, which is another one that people seem to hold in high esteem... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FUBARofPittsburgh #33 Posted December 1, 2015 My first console was the Sega Master System. LOVED IT! No regrets. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatPix #34 Posted December 1, 2015 Growing up... I had no exchange with other kids about video games. Most of them didn't had a console, or just like me, a NES (I'm talking in the early 90's) with your good old 5/6 classic games on it. No nothing to trade for (if I ever had the idea... why would you trade a game you like for one you do'nt know anything about?). Maybe a big change would have been if my brother didn't got the PS1, back in 1999. When I discovered games like Silent Hill, and Resident Evil. I mean, wow, games that had a story, multiple character that play a role, it was like a movie! From that day, and with Internet coming at home, I grew interested in video gaming more than ever. Else I probably would have missed alot... As when the PS2 came out, all chatter in school was about FIFA, PES and fucking racing games. Yeah, no one talking about Silent Hill 2 for sure back there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+save2600 #35 Posted December 1, 2015 Interesting topic and some good reads for sure! The two systems my parents got for us, were the Radio Shack TV Scoreboard pong unit and the Atari 2600. Never had the "lesser known" systems like the O2, Fairchild or Astrocade because growing up in the arcade restoration biz, there was already an anti-console attitude in the house... and for good reason back then as they really did suck! Kidding aside, my parents, if they were even aware of some of the oddball systems, knew they were so much less than what we had available to play at any given moment, that they were looked upon as being a total waste of money. Needless to say, it was a miracle they sprung for the 2600 one Christmas. (took 2 years of begging!) Don't think my Mom ever really played, but enjoyed watching us play sometimes. Remember playing Golf and Super Breakout with my Dad once in a while, when I'd bring the Atari down from my room and hook it to the TV in the living room that is. haha By our early to mid teens, my brother and I (friends too for that matter) all had different systems to play. A few of us had the 2600, while a couple had Intellivisions. A few of us had C64's, a couple others had TI's, Apple's and Atari computers - I had all briefly within a relatively short span too as I bought/sold/traded stuff around. Worked out really well that way and was fun to check out what all was available back then. But my brother bought himself a Sega Master System and I purchased an NES. The Deluxe system with the Robot. I loved games such as Baseball, Balloon Fight and Super Mario Bros., but a friend of my brothers saw that I had an NES and wanted it so bad, that he was willing to trade me his complete C64 setup for it. Dollar for dollar, certainly wasn't going to turn that deal down! Came with a bunch of software and two that really stood out at the time were Championship Baseball & Ghosts and Goblins. LOVED the spookiness of that game back then and thought the library and the C64 itself was so much better than the NES's. 'Course, a year or two later, the NES really blossomed, so re-purchased one and even bought that arcade cabinet you put together, that held the system a 19" TV and had a nice 2-player control panel. ...but by the very early 90's, I was done with the NES again and this time, for good. Just too much competition and fell in love with the TG-16's graphics and game selection soon after. Was my go-to system for the next few years, as was the SNES, which reminds me... my brother bought a Sega Genesis and the CD unit when released. Up until that time and a little after, built up a hell of a SMS library, including the 3D games. And again, remember playing it on the TV downstairs when he'd bring it down. My Dad was even into Pro Wrestling for a while. lol But back to the early 90's... was such a great time for video gaming! Besides the Neo*Geo, Jaguar and TG-16, guess the Amiga CD32 was another of the lesser known systems I bought. Got one in the mid 90's, but sold it soon after. I always (still do) thought it was strange that the system (Amiga AGA machines for that matter) was ditched so early on. I mean, developers knew there were so many units sold and in peoples homes. Just because the parent company dies, doesn't mean that people immediately stopped using their machines. We all yearned for MORE for our beloved systems back then and paid through the nose for anything and everything we could get our hands on. Some of us still do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flojomojo #36 Posted December 1, 2015 I always loved arcade games, and playing VCS at friends' houses. My parents always thought video games were stupid. I had no game system at all until my pal sold his old Odyssey 2 to my family (console and many games for $100) when he got a ColecoVision. I was in sixth grade, and my mom thought the keyboard meant it was a bit smarter than the Atari or other machines. I ordered Power Lords for $20, and they send a "consolation prize" card when the game was delayed, allowing me to get 2 free games of my choice instead (I chose Turtles and Killer Bees). Then they sent another card (I chose P.T. Barnum's Acrobats and Attack of the Timelord)! It was great to have some new, high quality games that I had read about in GAMES magazine. I never saw Odyssey 2 games for sale in any store, and to order from Sears would have been $20+ not including shipping. Odyssey 2 was video game island. I made do with what I had. My friends still had Atari, which had Defender, Gravitar, the Activision catalog, Centipede, and so much more. Oh well! A few years later, I bought a post-crash Intellivision for $40 and mess of cheap games. I think I was 14 or 15, and carried it with one hand while I rode my bike home from Hi-Lo (a CVS type pharmacy/cheapo store). Then a yard sale VCS, which meant I could play all the $1 games in the bargain bins. If my parents had bought me an (expensive, underpowered) Atari earlier on, perhaps I would have gotten gaming out of my system. The same could be said of chocolate and sweet fizzy drinks. Meanwhile, my friends got personal computers like the Commodore 64 (BBS game piracy ahoy!) or the Apple II. I got a Timex Sinclair 1000, which I used for BASIC programming and a few truly terrible games on tape. The cycle would repeat when I went to college at age 18 with a Macintosh SE (1MB of RAM, 2 800K floppy drives) and the cycle repeated. All the cool action games were on other platforms. Afterwards, I got an LCIII color Mac and played a bunch of PC and Amiga ports, and the occasional Mac-only gem. I subscribed to Inside Mac Gaming. We were a small group. I couldn't run Marathon (proto-HALO) on this weak machine. We are all products of our environment and upbringing and I'm still a game-crazed fiend even today. Only now, many years later, can I let the occasional Humble Bundle, Steam Sale, or iOS app price discount pass me by, because I'm dimly aware that life is too short for all these stupid games! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bretthorror #37 Posted December 2, 2015 Lots of interesting replies, just what I had hoped for. I gotta bring this up - were you a copier? The reason I wanted a SMS is because my cousin had one, everyone had the Game Boy, and my cousin also had the Genesis. So I got the systems he had because I guess because I wanted to play the games I was playing on his consoles and I didn't really know anything else to begin with. It's not like a kid can have a whole lot of gaming influences at 5, but I wish I could remember how I knew Nintendo because I'm sure I did. I know I got a decent haul of games with my NES, I'm almost positive Mario/Duck Hunt, Trick Shooting, Batman, Double Dragon and Ninja Turtles I got at the same time. Whether it's true or not, the fact I vividly remember SMS Double Dragon and I got Double Dragon for Nintendo means I probably really just wanted Double Dragon. I would love to know if there are any pictures of me from those Christmases, that would really help. I don't remember much photography though, likely because half the time I bitched when I'd get my picture taken. And look who is complaining about not knowing this shit now? Everything bites you in the ass one way or another. I was interested in if maybe someone got an old console they were stuck with software wise like I may have been if I would have indeed received a SMS for Christmas in '90 instead of the NES. Granted, I had a Game Boy and Genesis within a few years, so something would have easily taken its place. I have the oddest gaming memories, I have like 2-4 memories of seeing video games in stores, lots of looking at the Sears book, but few in stores. So I remember seeing a SMS system at a pharmacy, but I have little recollection if they had them on display anywhere else. It makes no sense remembering a console in a pharmacy when you're 5, but having no Woolworths/Walmart memories from the earlier years. I know Double Dragon was at that pharmacy, so that probably was what cemented it for me as that was my favorite game at the time. Since Christmas was a semi-sure thing but still a "surprise", there'd be no telling if my parents would have looked in that pharmacy if Woolco or whatever it was at the time was clearing out systems. Was a different world then, my city has 10 000 people, but back then I guess there were a ton of little stores to go into to find games. Hard to set my mind back that far when I basically just searched video stores for movies I wanted to see or just used the Internet after I was old enough to get a credit card. A lot of people on the internet seem to have memories of toy store chains, but by the time Toys R Us came to a place 2 hours from me, I was like 10 and by then didn't really care about toys, maybe I'd have more vivid memories if I was being taken to a toy store with the direct intent of buying me something. I know I'd look at games, but asking for one was futile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reaperman #38 Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) I've been part of the Jaguar community since 1993 and it isn't that bad. I wonder if perhaps there's somebody out there who doesn't consider themselves part of the jag community, who would second your opinion about it. I will say, I was just pleasantly surprised when I poked my head in there and there wasn't a single locked thread on the whole first page. I honestly expected to see at least a couple. Yes, AA has about the calmest jag forum around, but I still half-expected to find somebody mentioning that something about jag might not have been quite the best, and getting several walls of text rammed down their throat for it. I thought I must have made a wrong turn and ended up in bizarro world. Edited December 2, 2015 by Reaperman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BassGuitari #39 Posted December 2, 2015 I got a Timex Sinclair 1000, which I used for BASIC programming and a few truly terrible games on tape. You mean you weren't into Supermaze, Grimm's Fairy Trails, or Mixed Game Bag 1? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flojomojo #40 Posted December 2, 2015 You mean you weren't into Supermaze, Grimm's Fairy Trails, or Mixed Game Bag 1? I had The Official Frogger by Sega. Ugh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatPix #41 Posted December 2, 2015 Besides, I find most of the consoles mentioned in this thread to be rather mainstream for their time period. I was expecting to read horror stories about people who got "stuck" with Arcadia 2001, Creativision, Super Cassette Vision, or in newer days a Playdia, Pippin etc. Yes, especially for us European, reading that people had a Master System is nothing but normal, nothing of the underdog console. And on the other hand, no one complain about growing up with an Atari 5200 that is short-lived and uninteresting for the most part... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
empsolo #42 Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Personally, I never saw the appeal of the Master System and I don't think I would have liked it all that much had I been aware of it. I mean you have significant issues with the design that would have been a deal breaker for child me. You have the pause button on the console which makes it hard to pause in the middle of the action. You have significant controller issues like the wire connecting from the side of the controller instead of the top. Plus it has a square dpad that makes precision movement tricky. Add in the fact that Sega never had real killer app that would draw in publishers and consumers alike. It's one of the reasons why the Sega's release of the Master System II in the early 1990's fizzled in the US. Even after the Genesis had broken the so-called Nintendo "monopoly." Edited December 3, 2015 by empsolo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatPix #43 Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) The side wire is only on very early runs. The Master System might be huge in Europe but I know of many "first hour" SMS gamers that never even heard of the side wire. And on all SMS sales I see, I never saw any of those pads either. The Pause button is indeed an issue, and the pad is far from great. But the Atari 2600 stick is a POS and that never stopped it to be a great and successful system There isn't certainly one great killer app on the SMS, but it has several shining, solid titles. But I guess it's because the SMS is much well know here so I'm more aware of the great titles on it than you can be? Probably. As far as it goes for me, the big let-down underdog for an European kid in the late 80's here would have to receive an Atari 7800, or worse, any of the "consolized computer", the C64GS, the Amstrad GX 4000, and even the Atari XEGS. Edited December 3, 2015 by CatPix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
empsolo #44 Posted December 3, 2015 The side wire is only on very early runs. The Master System might be huge in Europe but I know of many "first hour" SMS gamers that never even heard of the side wire. And on all SMS sales I see, I never saw any of those pads either. The Pause button is indeed an issue, and the pad is far from great. But the Atari 2600 stick is a POS and that never stopped it to be a great and successful system There isn't certainly one great killer app on the SMS, but it has several shining, solid titles. But I guess it's because the SMS is much well know here so I'm more aware of the great titles on it than you can be? Probably. Yeah but killer apps are kind of needed if you want the system to really stand out from amongst the crowd. It gives people an incentive to really invest thier time and money despite the hardware issues going forward. Plus instead the US got games like Alex Kidd in Miracle World, game where the jump and fire buttons are reversed as compared to the tight controls in Super Mario Bros. Come to think of it, did other master system games have these buttons reversed? Plus it didn't help that a lot of the better Master System games stayed in europe. Sega never released any of the Sonic Master System games in the US despite releasing the Master System II. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatPix #45 Posted December 3, 2015 Considering that those consoles came early in the "two side buttons on a pad", you can't consider that the controls are reversed in Alex Kidd. Kind of how some O2 games put the first/only player on the right controller instead of the left, it's odd only because for whatever reason, the leftmost port became the player 1 standard (probably because we read from left to right, so when labeling them, 1 or A is at the left). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
empsolo #46 Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Considering that those consoles came early in the "two side buttons on a pad", you can't consider that the controls are reversed in Alex Kidd. Kind of how some O2 games put the first/only player on the right controller instead of the left, it's odd only because for whatever reason, the leftmost port became the player 1 standard (probably because we read from left to right, so when labeling them, 1 or A is at the left). Although it should be pointed out that Alex Kidd in Miracle World ended up being built into the Master System II in the US with the control scheme set up like Super Mario Bros. Edited December 3, 2015 by empsolo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatPix #47 Posted December 3, 2015 Ah, that might be why I never noticed. Alex Kidd is built into my SMS I. I think I never ever saw a cart of it even. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempest #48 Posted December 3, 2015 Plus it didn't help that a lot of the better Master System games stayed in europe. Sega never released any of the Sonic Master System games in the US despite releasing the Master System II. I believe the first one was released in the US (barely). I think they just took the European one and put a new UPS sticker over the old one on the box. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
empsolo #49 Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) I believe the first one was released in the US (barely). I think they just took the European one and put a new UPS sticker over the old one on the box. Yep you are night. Sonic 1 for the Master System was released in November of 1991. And was overshadowed by the debut holiday season for the SNES. Edited December 3, 2015 by empsolo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BydoEmpire #50 Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) My family's first console was an Intellivision - it was awesome. Our neighbors had a 2600 so we could play that occasionally, but honestly, I liked the Inty. I ended up getting a 2600 a few years late (traded a stack of pirated Apple 2 discs to a friend). I had an NES, but ended up getting a SMS a year or two later. I liked the NES, certainly, but I loved[i/] the Master System. Edited December 3, 2015 by BydoEmpire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites