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+DZ-Jay Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Nice, I like the arpeggio style. I do think the pacing is off. It is much too fast, and the silences are longer than expected. It feels rushed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuzZLeR Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Just curious as to what type of methods people are using for such scores, since mine are rather crude and in trial-and-error. I'm wondering if there's a convenient workflow to the effect of WAV -> MIDI -> Sheet music -> Convert digitally -> IntyBASIC, or something similar, or what software, etc. (unless of course I missed out on an earlier thread or link). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Just curious as to what type of methods people are using for such scores, since mine are rather crude and in trial-and-error. I'm wondering if there's a convenient workflow to the effect of WAV -> MIDI -> Sheet music -> Convert digitally -> IntyBASIC, or something similar, or what software, etc. (unless of course I missed out on an earlier thread or link). I don't use IntyBASIC for music, but I use Arnauld Chevallier's Music Tracker for Intellivision in Assembly Language programs. It follows a similar data structure to Amiga music modules (MOD) files, except that it doesn't use sampled instrument sounds. I track my songs by hand, because I am a sucker for punishment, and because I am too lazy to concoct an automated solution... yet. I have the following workflow: Find sheet music for a song (or compose an original one) Track the song in GarageBand or Logic, taking care of all velocity and performance nuances. I track the song in three voices, using different instruments for each if necessary. View the song data in GarageBand or Logic using the "MIDI Event Viewer." This view shows the note, duration, instrument, and volume of each discrete MIDI event, which corresponds to an event in the Music Tracker. I transcribe the MIDI events into the Music Tracker notation using the macros available. Test, tweak, repeat Actually, the first thing I do is define the instruments in the Music Tracker by describing their sound envelope. I kinda do this by eye, knowing that if I need, say, a violin, I will have an instrument with a very slow attack, a high sustain, and a slow release. I'm sure I could write a program to take the MIDI file and transcribe the events directly to MOD format. In fact, this is precisely what Arnauld does, but he has not shared his tool set yet. He did mention in the past that he was working on a public web application that would track music for you and generate the necessary data automatically, though I don't know in which stat that is. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuzZLeR Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Hi DZ-Jay, and thanks for the response. I've been looking around for such wares, and have not been successful, and even including the ones you mentioned. Do you have some links to such tools, or any threads, so I can further my reading on them? As well, I'm working on Windows, so GarageBand wouldn't work. But searching for "Logic" alone can bring up anything, including cleaning your kitchen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Hi DZ-Jay, and thanks for the response. I've been looking around for such wares, and have not been successful, and even including the ones you mentioned. Do you have some links to such tools, or any threads, so I can further my reading on them? As well, I'm working on Windows, so GarageBand wouldn't work. But searching for "Logic" alone can bring up anything, including cleaning your kitchen. Logic is the "Pro" version of something like GarageBand. It's a professional music tracking/recording software for Macs. I guess you can get the same thing on Windows with any MIDI-supporting software. However, be aware that music in IntyBASIC works differently from the Assembly Language tracker. The tracker is actually a fully-featured music tracker/player, while IntyBASIC has some rudimentary features that support music playing. For example, you describe music in IntyBASIC in a more basic way, by defining a note and its duration. The tracker, on the other hand, allows you to control music in a similar way that MIDI instruments do: by describing the changes in notes and volume to each channel as time passes, along with some additional effects. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuzZLeR Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Drat. So I guess that classical and romantic symphony I was writing and composing is out of the question. But I will look into your suggestions, and settle with the "bleeps" and "blaps" of the Intellivision, and IntyBASIC, now that you've brought me to reality. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) Drat. So I guess that classical and romantic symphony I was writing and composing is out of the question. But I will look into your suggestions, and settle with the "bleeps" and "blaps" of the Intellivision, and IntyBASIC, now that you've brought me to reality. Thanks! I have to take my comments back after hearing carlsson's music demo. Those songs play really good. It seems that the IntyBASIC music player has evolved into a great tool. -dZ. Edited December 30, 2015 by DZ-Jay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 While I haven't looked into Arnauld's routine, I would assume it works more with a block like structure that you can repeat, possibly transpose and other things with. The current format of the IntyBASIC music is more like a competely unrolled song, which will take more space in memory but also requires a much simpler play routine. Actually trackers based on notes and duration don't have to be more simplistic than programs based on timer events. Just look at the most advanced C64 music programs that organize music data into three playlists, one for each oscillator. Each playlist then contains links to blocks of music data, which can be reused in either playlist. Each block of data contains notes, duration, instrument and occasionally commands for tempo change, transpose, glissando, vibrato etc. Then you have instrument definitions with ADSR and lists of waveforms executed one line per raster sweep. Those lists may contain either relative transpose (for arpeggio effects) or fixed frequencies (for drums, typically a SID drum consists of a quick series of waveform and frequency changes). Furthermore, you often have similar lists with pulse width programs, filter programs etc that can be applied to any instrument. So what looks like just a note and duration at the top level, executes a series of predefined lists of parameter changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 While I haven't looked into Arnauld's routine, I would assume it works more with a block like structure that you can repeat, possibly transpose and other things with. The current format of the IntyBASIC music is more like a competely unrolled song, which will take more space in memory but also requires a much simpler play routine. Actually trackers based on notes and duration don't have to be more simplistic than programs based on timer events. Just look at the most advanced C64 music programs that organize music data into three playlists, one for each oscillator. Each playlist then contains links to blocks of music data, which can be reused in either playlist. Each block of data contains notes, duration, instrument and occasionally commands for tempo change, transpose, glissando, vibrato etc. Then you have instrument definitions with ADSR and lists of waveforms executed one line per raster sweep. Those lists may contain either relative transpose (for arpeggio effects) or fixed frequencies (for drums, typically a SID drum consists of a quick series of waveform and frequency changes). Furthermore, you often have similar lists with pulse width programs, filter programs etc that can be applied to any instrument. So what looks like just a note and duration at the top level, executes a series of predefined lists of parameter changes. Arnauld's tracker uses a format based on Amiga music modules (MODs), where you define (software) instruments, voice attributes, and patterns; and then you layout the order of those patterns in a song. It has the ability to repeat from an arbitrary point in the song, but it works merely as a "GOTO X" where "X" is the offset from the end of the song, in patterns. It works in a similar way as you described: on every VBLANK period, the tracker state is updated, which includes modulating the waveforms based on a 64-bit ADSR envelope for each voice, and various built-in modulation effects such as arpeggio, vibrato, etc. Here's a technical overview I wrote on it some time ago. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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