RodLightning Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I certainly liked it better than all the prequels, but the originals were better. This one felt more like "Star Wars" than the prequels, but this movie suffered from being a product of the times and is a bit too...something... that I can't quite put my finger on. This statement pretty much nails my feeling while walking out of the theater. Is it possible that simply too much time has passed to release a sequel that is properly contiguous with episode VI ? The Empire remnants have had at least twenty eight years to regroup, get beaten, and form again into the First Order. Reading some of the books released over the years sort of spoiled my ability to appreciate this latest movie, especially after realizing that most of those plots are being set aside. It's as though the new republic never properly formed, and everyone is back to being rebels / resistance fighters. The good guys would have had to screw up royally and consistently over the years to reach the status quo presented in episode VII. Has a rebel boot ever set foot on Coruscant aka Imperial Center since the destruction of Death Star #2 ? The mind boggles.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari_Bill Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Just went to see it for the second time. Had a blast again. Love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) https://youtu.be/XSaaa_OBkzw Edited January 3, 2016 by retroillucid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lathe26 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I must be one of the very few who still prefer Episode 3 .... I like episode 3 a little better than 6. Of the original movies, Return of the Jedi had some issues and was the weakest of those three. I like episode 6, but I don't love it like episodes 4 and 5 (the 2 best in the whole series). Episode 3 has issues as well. I think people hate it more than it deserves because episode 2 and especially episode 1 were just so awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I like episode 3 a little better than 6. Of the original movies, Return of the Jedi had some issues and was the weakest of those three. I like episode 6, but I don't love it like episodes 4 and 5 (the 2 best in the whole series). Episode 3 has issues as well. I think people hate it more than it deserves because episode 2 and especially episode 1 were just so awful. Yeah, that's pretty much this As for me, here's my favorite ones - Ep 5 - Ep 4 - Ep 6 - Ep 3 - Ep 7 - Ep 1 - Ep 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 I hope someone remasters episodes 1 through 6 and wipes out jar jar binks and his race, ewoks, and the slow padme/anikan love scenes, and 1 hour of pod racing. :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I hope someone remasters episodes 1 through 6 and wipes out jar jar binks and his race, ewoks, and the slow padme/anikan love scenes, and 1 hour of pod racing. :-) There are versions like that on YouTube already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Yeah, just go to Youtube and search for Star Wars Anti Cheese. For example, The Phantom Menace is edited down by about 25 minutes, and leaves out a lot of the Jar Jar Binks, Yippee, midichlorians nonsense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 Ill look. Thanks But how do we wipe jarjar from our brains! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Ill look. Thanks But how do we wipe jarjar from our brains! I like Jar Jar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpmaul69 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I like Jar Jar me too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 me too I think what really kill Episode 1 and 2 is all those dramatic love scenes between Padme and Anakin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 Oky day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8yy3q9f84EA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+fdr4prez Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 If you are a torrent kinda person, you may be able to find fanedits of the prequels that have redone the prequels removing Jar Jar, but also touching up the movies in an attempt to make them tolerable. I've downloaded a few of them, but I didn't keep any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8yy3q9f84EA Told you! Sith Lord. Just wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Rolfe Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Why am I the only one that did not care for this movie? Thank God we'll always have the original trilogy. Me either. I think this article expresses the problem: http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-star-wars-the-force-awakens-stinks-20151226-column.html I blame Disney, which in its modern incarnation is so intent on offending no one that it insists on choking the life out of its productions. And if the following doesn't convince you that Disney has gone over to the dark side, then you have gone over to the dark side. http://www.techtimes.com/articles/103045/20151104/disney-discontinuing-slave-leia-star-wars-merchandise.htm FWIW, I liked the prequel trilogy well enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Me either. I think this article expresses the problem: http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-star-wars-the-force-awakens-stinks-20151226-column.html I blame Disney, which in its modern incarnation is so intent on offending no one that it insists on choking the life out of its productions. And if the following doesn't convince you that Disney has gone over to the dark side, then you have gone over to the dark side. http://www.techtimes.com/articles/103045/20151104/disney-discontinuing-slave-leia-star-wars-merchandise.htm FWIW, I liked the prequel trilogy well enough. Sure, sure, sure. I see, because some did not like the movie, it must be crap, and those who enjoyed it must be delusional. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Who cares. I liked the movie, enough to have watched it twice, and ready to watch it a few more. I'm not a "Star Wars fan" in the sense of a geek buying merchandise and wearing stormtrooper t-shirts. Nor did I ever read any of those books that came out after the movies, or followed the so-called "Expanded Universe." Personally, I didn't much care about the first two sequels. To me Star Wars means the same thing it meant when I first saw it at six years-old: spaceships, lasers, droids, x-wing fighters, stormtroopers, and Death Stars blowing up planets. That's the reason I enjoyed the video games "X-Wing," "Tie Fighter," and "Rogue Squadron"; but didn't care much for loftier stuff like "Something-Something Of The Old Republic" or "Star Wars Galaxies." So I like the original Star Wars. It's one of my favourite movies in the sense that I enjoy immensely every single time that I have seen it, and I've seen it plenty of times. However, it's not high art, it does not call for deep introspection, and I surely can find plenty of other movies that I find significantly more satisfying -- emotionally as well as intellectually. Yet, I still enjoy watching X-wings fly through a trench and blowing up the Death Star, just like I did almost 40 years ago. The Force Awakens reminds me of that. It is derivative (but so was Star Wars). It is flawed (just like Star Wars). It is full of plot holes (kinda like Star Wars). But who the f*ck cares? Well, I guess you do. I don't, so I'll just enjoy it as much as I want; while you can go on hating Lucas or Disney or the "Corporate America" boogyman, and decrying how they single-handedly destroyed the once pristine America and rotted our brains with their merchandising pulp. Meh. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-crew Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Sure, sure, sure. I see, because some did not like the movie, it must be crap, and those who enjoyed it must be delusional. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Who cares. I liked the movie, enough to have watched it twice, and ready to watch it a few more. I'm not a "Star Wars fan" in the sense of a geek buying merchandise and wearing stormtrooper t-shirts. Nor did I ever read any of those books that came out after the movies, or followed the so-called "Expanded Universe." Personally, I didn't much care about the first two sequels. To me Star Wars means the same thing it meant when I first saw it at six years-old: spaceships, lasers, droids, x-wing fighters, stormtroopers, and Death Stars blowing up planets. That's the reason I enjoyed the video games "X-Wing," "Tie Fighter," and "Rogue Squadron"; but didn't care much for loftier stuff like "Something-Something Of The Old Republic" or "Star Wars Galaxies." So I like the original Star Wars. It's one of my favourite movies in the sense that I enjoy immensely every single time that I have seen it, and I've seen it plenty of times. However, it's not high art, it does not call for deep introspection, and I surely can find plenty of other movies that I find significantly more satisfying -- emotionally as well as intellectually. Yet, I still enjoy watching X-wings fly through a trench and blowing up the Death Star, just like I did almost 40 years ago. The Force Awakens reminds me of that. It is derivative (but so was Star Wars). It is flawed (just like Star Wars). It is full of plot holes (kinda like Star Wars). But who the f*ck cares? Well, I guess you do. I don't, so I'll just enjoy it as much as I want; while you can go on hating Lucas or Disney or the "Corporate America" boogyman, and decrying how they single-handedly destroyed the once pristine America and rotted our brains with their merchandising pulp. Meh. -dZ. Well said, DZ, I m a fan of this one as well, captured the feel of the first 3 movies for sure... brought me back to 77 , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpmaul69 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Sure, sure, sure. I see, because some did not like the movie, it must be crap, and those who enjoyed it must be delusional. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Who cares. I liked the movie, enough to have watched it twice, and ready to watch it a few more. I'm not a "Star Wars fan" in the sense of a geek buying merchandise and wearing stormtrooper t-shirts. Nor did I ever read any of those books that came out after the movies, or followed the so-called "Expanded Universe." Personally, I didn't much care about the first two sequels. To me Star Wars means the same thing it meant when I first saw it at six years-old: spaceships, lasers, droids, x-wing fighters, stormtroopers, and Death Stars blowing up planets. That's the reason I enjoyed the video games "X-Wing," "Tie Fighter," and "Rogue Squadron"; but didn't care much for loftier stuff like "Something-Something Of The Old Republic" or "Star Wars Galaxies." So I like the original Star Wars. It's one of my favourite movies in the sense that I enjoy immensely every single time that I have seen it, and I've seen it plenty of times. However, it's not high art, it does not call for deep introspection, and I surely can find plenty of other movies that I find significantly more satisfying -- emotionally as well as intellectually. Yet, I still enjoy watching X-wings fly through a trench and blowing up the Death Star, just like I did almost 40 years ago. The Force Awakens reminds me of that. It is derivative (but so was Star Wars). It is flawed (just like Star Wars). It is full of plot holes (kinda like Star Wars). But who the f*ck cares? Well, I guess you do. I don't, so I'll just enjoy it as much as I want; while you can go on hating Lucas or Disney or the "Corporate America" boogyman, and decrying how they single-handedly destroyed the once pristine America and rotted our brains with their merchandising pulp. Meh. -dZ. well said. Except i do own 5 star wars t-shirts. 2 are storm trooper ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthompson Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I liked the movie too, but as others have said, I wished the story had felt more original. I think it's J.J. Abrams. Though an excellent movie maker, he's been doing the same thing with the "reboot" of the Star Trek movies. I don't need a dozen references to the earlier films sprinkled throughout the new ones. And along with being entertained, I want to leave the theater pondering some things about the human condition. Good movies have me doing that, and the original Star Trek and Star Wars usually did. I'm looking forward to the next chapters of both and hoping they get back to more of what makes each franchise great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Sure, sure, sure. I see, because some did not like the movie, it must be crap, and those who enjoyed it must be delusional. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Who cares. I liked the movie, enough to have watched it twice, and ready to watch it a few more. I'm not a "Star Wars fan" in the sense of a geek buying merchandise and wearing stormtrooper t-shirts. Nor did I ever read any of those books that came out after the movies, or followed the so-called "Expanded Universe." Personally, I didn't much care about the first two sequels. To me Star Wars means the same thing it meant when I first saw it at six years-old: spaceships, lasers, droids, x-wing fighters, stormtroopers, and Death Stars blowing up planets. That's the reason I enjoyed the video games "X-Wing," "Tie Fighter," and "Rogue Squadron"; but didn't care much for loftier stuff like "Something-Something Of The Old Republic" or "Star Wars Galaxies." So I like the original Star Wars. It's one of my favourite movies in the sense that I enjoy immensely every single time that I have seen it, and I've seen it plenty of times. However, it's not high art, it does not call for deep introspection, and I surely can find plenty of other movies that I find significantly more satisfying -- emotionally as well as intellectually. Yet, I still enjoy watching X-wings fly through a trench and blowing up the Death Star, just like I did almost 40 years ago. The Force Awakens reminds me of that. It is derivative (but so was Star Wars). It is flawed (just like Star Wars). It is full of plot holes (kinda like Star Wars). But who the f*ck cares? Well, I guess you do. I don't, so I'll just enjoy it as much as I want; while you can go on hating Lucas or Disney or the "Corporate America" boogyman, and decrying how they single-handedly destroyed the once pristine America and rotted our brains with their merchandising pulp. Meh. -dZ. By the way, this reply was specifically aimed at the comments on the movie, not as a personal attack. If you are the David Rolfe I think you are, then you should I know I admire your work and creativity immensely. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I'm not a "Star Wars fan" in the sense of a geek buying merchandise and wearing stormtrooper t-shirts. Hey, not there's anything wrong with that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I loved all 7 Star Wars movies and humbly bow to my Sith overlord Darth Binks. Also, I got a BB-8 shirt for X-mas and it's my favorite shirt. Also, Beamrider is my 2nd favorite Activision game Welcome Mr Rolfe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Rolfe Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Sure, sure, sure. I see, because some did not like the movie, it must be crap, and those who enjoyed it must be delusional. Yadda, yadda, yadda. ... My post expressed personal distaste for the new installment and specific disgust with Disney, but nowhere did I insult or imply insult to or disapproval of people who enjoyed "The Force Awakens". The thread posed a personal question; I gave a personal answer. Why do you put those insulting words in my mouth? My comment of "...then you have gone over to the dark side" was a specific reference to a news article announcing Disney's decision to remove all Leia-in-chains images (from Episode VI with Jabba the Hutt) from its commercial line in consequence of a corporate decision to distance itself from the risqué (I would say "politically incorrect") costume. My comment was meant in a playful sense (the "force" and its "dark side" being fictional creations of the franchise), so the only people who can even make a case that I challenged them personally are those that agree that Disney did the right thing in this decision. Just curious; is anybody supporting Disney on this point? Do you think the world's a better place for the removal of those juicy Leia dolls and t-shirts? Hey, Carrie Fisher wasn't exactly a world-class actress, so flaunting her menaced body was her best (and only) career move. In that sense Disney has done both her and her drooling pre- and post-pubescent fans (I'll include myself in that group) a gross disservice. For that matter Mark Hamill's Star Wars performance was less than stellar, but he seems to have invested his profits in a good acting school, with visible result (I'm thinking of the dramatic cameo as "Cocknocker" in "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back", not to mention "Crow" in "Sushi Girl"). And, getting back on the subject of trashing Disney, do you think Disney improved Pirates of the Caribbean by making the pirates chase food instead of women? Because I don't! There, I said it! I've acknowledged my past and ongoing complicity in maintaining the ancient and oppressive evil ways! In so doing, I make myself the valid punching bag of every right-thinking do-gooder in this and every other galaxy. Now you've got a valid basis to trash me! And trash George Lucas while you're at it, because he recently said he sold the Star Wars franchise to "white slavers" (http://variety.com/2015/film/news/star-wars-george-lucas-disney-white-slavers-1201669959/). So go for it! Release your anger! Only your hatred can destroy me! Edited January 7, 2016 by David Rolfe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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