cybercylon Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I sold off my Retron 5 once I settled on the Retrofreak. All of the filters and scan line options, etc from these devices look like crap. Same on the PC. I'd rather just live with the pixelated look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Where is the most recent game compatibility list for this thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 So the RF hardware is getting a bit long in the tooth. Any hope for a revised version, or a competing product that could hopefully improve the design? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 So the RF hardware is getting a bit long in the tooth. How so? I ask as someone that's never used one before. Just curious, although I did think of investing in one for the main TV eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdee Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) No revisions yet. They recently announced the "Basic" version which is the same core machine but a cheaper cart adapter (SNES only): http://www.pcmag.com/news/356662/retro-freak-basic-will-compete-with-snes-classic Edited December 12, 2017 by Newsdee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 So the RF hardware is getting a bit long in the tooth. Any hope for a revised version, or a competing product that could hopefully improve the design? Long in the tooth? I don't really have any issues with it. It's still by far the best product in its category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 How so? I ask as someone that's never used one before. Just curious, although I did think of investing in one for the main TV eventually. Its going on three years old now, there havent been any revisions or peripherals released for it since the beginning, even though its a perfect platform for expandability. Not saying its dead, but I would think its hitting the latter half of its life cycle. If nothing else, ripe for a price drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 That's a fair argument as it's not cheap and that along with the no NES slot on it kept me from picking one up even to date. It beats the R5 out in quality but the price and missing bit was a turn off. I'm surprised they haven't put out any revisions at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdee Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 That's a fair argument as it's not cheap and that along with the no NES slot on it kept me from picking one up even to date. It beats the R5 out in quality but the price and missing bit was a turn off. I'm surprised they haven't put out any revisions at all.You can get a NES to Famicom adapter, no? Sure it sticks out a bit badly but better than nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Getting the nes->f adaptor isn’t a big deal, imo. But for a system that is essentially a USB cart slot plugged into an android box, it would be nice if they released a new cart reader that supported Atari, or vectrex, or Game Gear, or any of the other systems they’ve missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Correct me if I am wrong, but can't you load up a SD card with ROMs? Personally that's what I would do if that's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 With the RetroFreak you can do that, just not the lame R5 which they blocked that feature in firmware (hardware is capable with hacking.) The RF itself is actually very very small, probably 80% of it is the larger base with the cart slots and the controller module. But if you just want the console itself which stores the games and go with their controller or something wireless it's quite tiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) Awesome. I see the appeal of using carts on it but if I bought one it would strictly be an all-in-one kind of device and I'd have everything loaded onto the SD card. Maybe I'll snag one this upcoming year. I enjoyed the look of the Retron 5 on my HD display, but hacking it was a pain. Not worth the trouble. The input lag was also quite noticeable. I am curious if the Retro Freak is better in this regard. I looked at the updated mini Retro Freak but there aren't many photos available. I can't tell what the back side looks like. Front has two USB ports and that's it. I am curious if there's still a SD slot on the rear, perhaps. If there is I could see myself buying that and just using one of the various USB controllers I have here (assuming it recognizes them). *Edit: I just realized the "mini" is just the standard Retro Freak, just without the massive hulk of an adapter. Basically the little box slides into the back of the original adapter that has all the cart slots and it acts as the brains of the machine. Damn.. so that means the "Mini" by itself won't be an option since it won't have a SD slot on it. Edited December 13, 2017 by Austin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdee Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 , or Game Gear, or any of the other systems theyve missed.There is a GG/SMS/System 3 adapter for it:https://youtu.be/JOfFegAqEmo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercylon Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I am sure they could make adapters for other systems like the Atari... random guess is that the hardware is more than capable. I don't think the market is big enough for that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I am sure they could make adapters for other systems like the Atari... random guess is that the hardware is more than capable. I don't think the market is big enough for that though. Yeah but 99% of the hardware is already in the user's hands. You're essentially selling a USB reader. Even if they sell in small quantities, the markup could be huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdee Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) They need to expand the menu for more emulators first. I think there was a "jailbreak" out there but I don't think details have surfaced, sadly. I'm not sure we will see much official support for systems that weren't popular in Japan. Edited December 13, 2017 by Newsdee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Considering the emulators were stolen in the first place, I can't imagine that being the logjam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+evg2000 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Awesome. I see the appeal of using carts on it but if I bought one it would strictly be an all-in-one kind of device and I'd have everything loaded onto the SD card. Maybe I'll snag one this upcoming year. I enjoyed the look of the Retron 5 on my HD display, but hacking it was a pain. Not worth the trouble. The input lag was also quite noticeable. I am curious if the Retro Freak is better in this regard. I looked at the updated mini Retro Freak but there aren't many photos available. I can't tell what the back side looks like. Front has two USB ports and that's it. I am curious if there's still a SD slot on the rear, perhaps. If there is I could see myself buying that and just using one of the various USB controllers I have here (assuming it recognizes them). *Edit: I just realized the "mini" is just the standard Retro Freak, just without the massive hulk of an adapter. Basically the little box slides into the back of the original adapter that has all the cart slots and it acts as the brains of the machine. Damn.. so that means the "Mini" by itself won't be an option since it won't have a SD slot on it. So the SD card is in the base unit, the idea is you use the whole unit to dump the games to the SD and then you can take the base with you to play games. The adapter is only for dumping or playing carts. Also, standard USB controllers may not work. Compatibility is some what iffy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdee Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) I had no problem with regular USB HID controllers. What does not work are XBox controllers which require some kind of driver or dongle to "decode" due to having a propietary format. It's the same than for an RPi stock or MiST/MiSTer. Edited December 14, 2017 by Newsdee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 So the SD card is in the base unit, the idea is you use the whole unit to dump the games to the SD and then you can take the base with you to play games. The adapter is only for dumping or playing carts. Also, standard USB controllers may not work. Compatibility is some what iffy. Awesome, thanks for the clarification. I may end up pre-ordering one of these stripped down packages then. Should be fun to mess around with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 That's why I said what I did, that picture up there a few posts is what I had seen before. If you are totally fine with the tiny part, that's the brains, and the cart slots are just cosmetic adapters to dump carts basically or write back to them. I think you're stuck using their controller but it's decent unlike that rotten hyperkin R5 garbage controller so it's not a huge issue unless you have to use original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdee Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 I think you're stuck using their controller but it's decent unlike that rotten hyperkin R5 garbage controller so it's not a huge issue unless you have to use original. You are not stuck to their controllers; PS3, PS4 gamepads (in wired mode) and various other USB devices work fine with it. What does not work are XBox controllers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Hmm that's doubly good news because while their pad is fine the dual shock is far nicer and not using the xbox with the wonky dual stick layout is all the better. I've been strongly considering the system for a while now, even going as far as dumping the R5 I had as I was tired of its dusty presence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Creating separate profiles for every system for every 3rd party usb controller is a royal pita though. Took me like two hours to register the wired 8bitdo for each system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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