Mockduck Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 This thread seems to be unnecessarily cruel, regardless of the motive. Ultimately, this seems to be the latest in a long line of video game-related dreams being bigger than reality. Surely this isn't the first time this kind of thing has happened in the industry. Glad there aren't a lot of people out there who have lost money on it, and for those who did, that sucks. I get the humor and entertainment inherent in busting a scam on the Internet, but if Mike is out there, know that not everyone wants your blood. Makes me sad for ya, hope you do okay. Will pray for your health. Don't let this destroy you; consider it a learning experience and an opportunity for growth. I did enjoy reading RETRO magazine a lot as well, so regardless of this whole story, at least there's that. Whatever role you played in bringing the magazine to my mailbox, Mike, I thank you for it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AE35 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 StopDrop&Retro, Keep them videos coming My wife ask that they exceed 10 minutes and that they get back to the style of the Dr. Strangelove-titled first episode. She's demanding The Jag Bar video was awesome! Picky Old Gamer, we also need videos from you ...and UKmike on friday or saturday. Good times!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Postman Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 OMG Dear Mike Kennedy, Screw you. XOXO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 More real than a Coleco Chameleon: 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coleridge Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 7 days, 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AE35 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Will pray for your health Is he ill? You make it sound like he's a fragile old man with one foot in the grave. Is that just an assumption? However, you are right regarding the money; he didn't take peoples money. But he tried. But he didn't. That is good. Compare that to the pinball scams! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Signing off for a little while. I have to go perform services. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdee Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 The Coleco inspection could also be a way to check if anything can be salvaged. MK might just convince them to bring their "independent" engineers onboard! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtris Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Just for laughs, Coleco should hire Kevtris to examine all of Mike's prototypes. It would be total overkill, but I would do it just to watch the blood drain from Mike's face when Kevtris walked into the room. I'd so do it. 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I'd so do it. Oh God please do. Can you reach out to them and offer your services free of charge on this Kevin? It would be so bitter sweet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vormund Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Oh Pat said it very well: "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me three times fuxx off". They are covering their ass, just in case he turns around and says "well you didn't give me enough time!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dissident Aggressor Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Vormund, that's exactly the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnphase Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Man, I really need to start a podcast... you should! i know i'd definitely listen. i guess the thing about doing them that can get tedious is the routine or the schedule and sticking with it, but really id like to see some more short format type podcasts come about, maybe 20 or 30 minute ones. seems like most people go 45 minutes or an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StopDrop&Retro Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) Respectuflly, John DeLorean smuggling drugs is nothing like the RVGS/Chameleon campaign. The potential crime would have been if he defrauded the masses to bring the car to fruition. Actually he did defraud the masses to bring the car to fruition. The factory was paid for by the British taxpayer with DeLorean's promise that his project would bring prosperity to economically depressed Northern Ireland. I know it's stretching the use of the word "defraud" because he did build a car and did make a good effort to make it succeed but Mike has some very eerie similarities to the DeLorean saga. For instance, the running prototype DeLorean showed off (in order to get funding) had literally NOTHING in common with the production car. The engine was from a Citroen, the chassis was different, and even the iconic gullwing doors were COMPLETELY different. Engineers on the project have gone on record and stated they were shocked that they had to design the entire car from the ground up because the prototype was "smoke & mirrors" as we would say here. It's also similar in that the story is tragic for the men behind it. John DeLorean was iconic among car enthusiasts and is credited for inventing the muscle car. He rose up the corporate ranks to Vice President of GM before leaving to make his own car and destroying his name in the process. Mike had some moderate success with RETRO magazine, enough for people to take him seriously in this new crowdfunding project, and then he threw it all away. It's a tragedy of their own making. Edited March 2, 2016 by StopDrop&Retro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperman Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I know it's probably been brought up in one of the 180 pages of this thing--but river west owns a snack food brand, and I think it's more appropriate that order some for the next week of munching instead of common popcorn. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 This thread seems to be unnecessarily cruel, regardless of the motive. Ultimately, this seems to be the latest in a long line of video game-related dreams being bigger than reality. Surely this isn't the first time this kind of thing has happened in the industry. Glad there aren't a lot of people out there who have lost money on it, and for those who did, that sucks. I get the humor and entertainment inherent in busting a scam on the Internet, but if Mike is out there, know that not everyone wants your blood. Makes me sad for ya, hope you do okay. Will pray for your health. Don't let this destroy you; consider it a learning experience and an opportunity for growth. ... Sure. Next time hide better. C'mon he did it 3 times .... he learnt enough imho. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toiletunes Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Hey guys, it's me- RVGS inc. I just wanted to announce some of the exciting new changes coming soon, keep looking for those announcements! Also, we decided to drop the Coleco name, due to some unreasonable requests. I feel this will make the new console even better! Stay tuned for more details coming eventually! I promise! 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 They are covering their ass, just in case he turns around and says "well you didn't give me enough time!" He said he had a proto twice but "Well he didn't give them a proto" .... twice. Once they were right there in front of it. In a way you can't beat that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PikoInteractive Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I'd so do it. I actually recommended you. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakpack Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Man, I really need to start a podcast... With the right co-host, I would so definitely start a podcast! moycon, I'm looking at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybermario Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Is he ill? You make it sound like he's a fragile old man with one foot in the grave. Is that just an assumption? However, you are right regarding the money; he didn't take peoples money. But he tried. But he didn't. That is good. Compare that to the pinball scams! Not as far i iknow This thread seems to be unnecessarily cruel, regardless of the motive. Ultimately, this seems to be the latest in a long line of video game-related dreams being bigger than reality. Surely this isn't the first time this kind of thing has happened in the industry. Glad there aren't a lot of people out there who have lost money on it, and for those who did, that sucks. I get the humor and entertainment inherent in busting a scam on the Internet, but if Mike is out there, know that not everyone wants your blood. Makes me sad for ya, hope you do okay. Will pray for your health. Don't let this destroy you; consider it a learning experience and an opportunity for growth. I did enjoy reading RETRO magazine a lot as well, so regardless of this whole story, at least there's that. Whatever role you played in bringing the magazine to my mailbox, Mike, I thank you for it. Most people here has made clear we dont want him any harm for him, stop making it look as if the comments here was making him commit suicide. As i commented before bad news travel fast, if he was ill because of this someone close to him would made that public and ask "please stop the "lynch mob" my husband/brother/father/cousin cant take this anymore". 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 I actually recommended you. Wait ... they asked you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnphase Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Oh I don't doubt he was watching this thread like a hawk, but all I was going on was the post time between the board being accurately identified and someone posting "aaaand it's gone" Either way it's very damning. As for Coleco, I'd probably give them the benefit of the doubt, they've probably been conned like a few other people involved. Their post is really like stabbing a corpse though. heres how it went: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page-151?do=findComment&comment=3454386<--board identified (9:49pm) http://atariage.com/forums/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page-151?do=findComment&comment=3454402<--the pics were still up (10:02pm) http://atariage.com/forums/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page-151?do=findComment&comment=3454410<---aaaand they're gone (10:05pm) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) Just for shit and giggles, this is the FB post from Dec 18 on the RVGS page (it's still there as of now): "Hello everyone. You have all seen the announcement we will be branding our new console under the COLECO name. We are excited to be a part of the revitalization of a great American brand and are working hard to build a system that will live up to the reputation of the original company and their gaming products. Many have mentioned they are still awaiting actual prototype hardware and wondering what is inside COLECO Chameleon. As we've said before we have made great progress over the last two months, but are waiting until we have the prototype 100% buttoned up before going public so we avoid the issues from before, talking about things, making changes, etc. So please, continue being patient with us while we do what you all want, making and demonstrating a playable prototype. Once we have this, all will be revealed. And rest assured, it will be at a very inviting price point. Thanks again for all your support, comments and questions." Edited March 2, 2016 by phoenixdownita 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I think the seven days is a ridiculously long amount of time given the history and the parties involved. Even Mike could probably order a Raspberry Pi off Amazon, watch some of Ben Heck's tutorials, get an emulator running on it, shove it in the case, and say "See, it plays games!". Given the lack of technical expertise demonstrated by RWB (assuming they are innocent in this whole thing) so far, they could be satisfied with such a "prototype". Seven days, seven weeks, seven months... it makes no difference. You are giving Mike way too much credit to be able to pull something together that he hasn't been able to do after many, many months. Well if the Coleco Chameleon prototype(s) are being assessed I want to see all 3 on video or assessed in writing with someone putting their name to the findings: #1 - The peice of paper in a Jag Shell - should be simple, it's just a hunk of paper #2 - The SNES Jr. in a Jag Shell - OPEN IT UP, should be simple to see it's no proto, it's a Super Nintendo #3 - The DVR card in a Jag Shell - PLUG IT IN, should be simple, it's a PC card not a video game system of any sort. If these 3 exact consoles are not used by Coleco to determine the fate of the relationship with MK something is going foul. Won't happen. I'd bet money that those are all long-gone, save for the Jag shells. Taken apart, tossed in the trash, whatever. If the engineer is going to where Mike is, they won't be able to find any of them. He'll make some sort of excuse, the protos were "lost" or "damaged" or "returned to his Hardware Guy™", maybe even show them MESS on a PC as their "development system" and that they just haven't been able to get the form factor down "yet" to fit in the Jag shell. Take your pick, or make up something else. If Mike is to bring the prototype with him somewhere, he either won't show up, or he'll show up empty-handed with a briefcase full of excuses. And on the off chance he does have anything to show (which would be out of sheer desperation to not lose his licensing deal with Coleco), it will be yet-another fake prototype. Does a Genesis motherboard fit under a Jag shell? Man, I really need to start a podcast... Don't you have cartridges to make? (And yes... you should start a podcast. Interview some of the AA homebrewers, hobbyists and collectors. I'd listen.) 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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