Coleco Chameleon .... hardware speculations?

[AtariLeaf]

Candy dishes, dog food bowls, litter boxes for cats, Jell-O molds, snack trays for gamers, fake armor parts for cosplayers, Kleenex dispensers... the possibilities are endless! With a little imagination, and no prototyping required, you could make a fortune!

 

Just make sure you put real Jell-O inside, not some off brand gelatin pretending to be real Jello. That would be disingenuous.

[S1500]

Spotted at Midwest Gaming Classic

 

[Vormund]

Mike asking to get his money back for a fake prototype is like someone coming into court and complaining that a drug dealer sold him a bag of fake crack.

 

LOL. Love it.

[+Random Terrain]

howmanysyllables.com/english_grammar/poetry/haiku_rules

The lines must follow the 5-7-5 format:

The first line must have 5 syllables.
The second line must have 7 syllables.
The third line must have 5 syllables.

OK, I'll try.

 

The sycophants weep.
Will their master return? Yes!

His bus waits for them.

 

 

Coleco no more.

The sky pie is flavorless.

There is another.

 

 

The truth is a lie.

Stupidity exemption?

Rebirth with a sneer.

[DerekRumpler]

I am only going to comment in here about Sean at this point as I know others who have been scammed by him are reading this thread. Here is some more info I got from Greg Albright who has now remembered more about the case. All this is also public record if you know where to look.

 

I want to know about you.

 

Is there any truth to the allegations that you haven't paid your writers for months? A fairly prominent games journalist has told me that this has been the case.

 

Also, why are you shipping issue 11 when several people have said they have not received issue 10?

 

Finally, if you are grateful people helped you see the light, why did you delete and ban critical feedback on your Facebook page?

 

I run a business and the only time I delete content is if the person is being abusive or a troll. I don't delete criticism; rather, I respond to it and attempt to assuage the person's concerns. That only makes you look better. And when I have banned someone it has been a disciplinary measure and I unblock them later when they have had time to calm down. I've actually won over customers doing that because they realized how unreasonable they were acting as trolls (many were kids).

 

Your actions make it seem like you were hiding something. I admit it could be bad business practice, but people also engage in the same behavior when they are trying to hide something. So which is it and why?

[ianoid]

Internet: Grrr, mean, judgemental, anonymous.

 

Mike: Business mistakes, going down with the ship, throw him some Airware!

 

Al: Up for sainthood, and, coincidentally, owner of this site!

 

Ianoid: I think Mike screwed up and is embarrassed. I've known Mike for a long time, and I wouldn't expect bad things from him. Must Internet kick a man when he's down? History shows that it must. I hope he can move on to better times, although Internet never forgets. Best of luck to Mike and the magazine.

[godslabrat]

Internet: Grrr, mean, judgemental, anonymous.

 

Mike: Business mistakes, going down with the ship, throw him some Airware!

 

Al: Up for sainthood, and, coincidentally, owner of this site!

 

Ianoid: I think Mike screwed up and is embarrassed. I've known Mike for a long time, and I wouldn't expect bad things from him. Must Internet kick a man when he's down? History shows that it must. I hope he can move on to better times, although Internet never forgets. Best of luck to Mike and the magazine.

 

Ian,

 

I get what you're saying, but we've seen bad things come from Mike, what we expected is no longer a factor. What's so grating to me is that even now, with overwhelming evidence that he jerked us all around and tried to weasel his way into Kickstarter's back door, he can't even admit to it. All he'll admit to is being "duped himself".

 

When someone can't even admit fault, it's still game on.

[+madman]

Internet: Grrr, mean, judgemental, anonymous.

 

Mike: Business mistakes, going down with the ship, throw him some Airware!

 

Al: Up for sainthood, and, coincidentally, owner of this site!

 

Ianoid: I think Mike screwed up and is embarrassed. I've known Mike for a long time, and I wouldn't expect bad things from him. Must Internet kick a man when he's down? History shows that it must. I hope he can move on to better times, although Internet never forgets. Best of luck to Mike and the magazine.

Wow, really? He openly lied to us and tried to con people out of $2MM when he had NOTHING. Why shouldn't people get on his case? Kick him when he's down? He brought this all on himself. And then when we caught him in his lies he lied even more to try to cover up his lies. Yeah, poor Mike. My heart goes out to him he was just a patsy in all of this.

[shawnphase]

the ironic thing is that he will return to crowdfunding again for the 3rd year of the magazine, and has no choice because of the amount of debt the magazine is in. think 3 to 4 decent used cars kinda debt. if you have to return, yet again, to crowdfunding options when you cant make the people who funded it the first 2 years happy..well, who is gonna fund it at this point? if he went to the crowdfunding platform for it, why is it in debt in the first place?

[ianoid]

 

 

When someone can't even admit fault, it's still game on.

 

It's always game on, on the Internet.

 

Just saying, I know Mike personally. I've met him, traded with him, talked with him on the phone, mostly around 2002-2003. If I look at this from the perspective of a person I know, even as a friend, rather than as an Internet person I don't know, I'm willing to say what positive things I can, rather than sharpen the axe with so many others.

 

I'm not making any judgement about truth or culpability.

[+phoenixdownita]

 

Ian,

 

I get what you're saying, but we've seen bad things come from Mike, what we expected is no longer a factor. What's so grating to me is that even now, with overwhelming evidence that he jerked us all around and tried to weasel his way into Kickstarter's back door, he can't even admit to it. All he'll admit to is being "duped himself".

 

When someone can't even admit fault, it's still game on.

Aside from the pornographic imagery used here, you just don't get it, do you?

The only thing that 'weaseled' here was Sean going back to the website and deleting the page with the checks .....

if you don't believe me just read again what Mike wrote, he said that himself ..... nevermind he also said they had a proto, Konami was onboard etc...etc....

[+phoenixdownita]

 

It's always game on, on the Internet.

 

Just saying, I know Mike personally. I've met him, traded with him, talked with him on the phone, mostly around 2002-2003. If I look at this from the perspective of a person I know, even as a friend, rather than as an Internet person I don't know, I'm willing to say what positive things I can, rather than sharpen the axe with so many others.

 

I'm not making any judgement about truth or culpability.

Me sorry, but are you using experience matured almost 14Y ago as a signpost of how things don't change?

Because they do, a lot. Nobody is sharpening any axes, every time he posts he keeps on attempting to find ways to justify why it is not his fault AND WE CANNOT CARE LESS ABOUT THAT because it is his fault.

He was the President/mouthpiece of the whole enchilada and it tanked badly twice for all of the same reasons: a mix of greed, stupidity, incompetence, lies, deceit and a whole horde of other shit we don't even know about.

The second time he was taken for a spin (maybe). .. HIS FUXXING PROBLEM better HIM than ANY OF THE POTENTIAL CROWDFUNDERS, he hired the scoundrel himself without researching him ... oh wait the money for that was supposed to come from crowdfunding? .... C'MON.

[ianoid]

Just about everything people are responding with pretty much reiterates my point about the Internet. I give Mike the benefit of the doubt based on my personal experience. I'm not saying you have to. Please don't, or else it might seem like I am actually making sense! But don't expect me to adopt your perspective. Or to contribute in any way to the negativity that people partake in on the Internet.

[+phoenixdownita]

Just about everything people are responding with pretty much reiterates my point about the Internet. I give Mike the benefit of the doubt based on my personal experience. I'm not saying you have to. Please don't, or else it might seem like I am actually making sense! But don't expect me to adopt your perspective. Or to contribute in any way to the negativity that people partake in on the Internet.

Why are you giving him the benefit of the doubt? Doubt for what?

That he didn't screw up twice? Doubt that he didn't say Konami is onboard when it was not? Doubt that he didn't ask for 2M for the RVGS without anything to show? Doubt that he's not incompentent in not doing background checking over Sean? Doubt that as president he should not check what the HW guy is doing more closely? The list goes on and on ... and it has nothing to do with hate or Internet.

 

Your doubt cannot be based on rational thinking, if it is based on friendship then what you have to give him is your support and privately at that.

[goldenegg]

Just about everything people are responding with pretty much reiterates my point about the Internet. I give Mike the benefit of the doubt based on my personal experience. I'm not saying you have to. Please don't, or else it might seem like I am actually making sense! But don't expect me to adopt your perspective. Or to contribute in any way to the negativity that people partake in on the Internet.

 

 

Nope. You can't say "I'm not saying you have to" after implying that everyone saying anything negative is wrong and only doing so because that's the in thing to do on the Internet.

 

I've known people for years who've turned around and done some pretty bad stuff. I'm not going to ignore all the evidence they did bad things, just because I never had a bad experience with that person. You're ignoring all the facts and evidence that's available, simply because of this 'personal experience' you had with Mike 13+ years ago. I'm sorry, but that's simply ignorance on your part. There are people who know Mike a lot better than you ever have who have spoke against him because of this. Not sure why you feel your experience with him is able to completely negate what he's done.

[+phoenixdownita]

Internet: Grrr, mean, judgemental, anonymous.

 

Mike: Business mistakes, going down with the ship, throw him some Airware!

 

Al: Up for sainthood, and, coincidentally, owner of this site!

 

Wait, missed this jab .... you sir are so full of it, what does Albert have to do with any of this?

 

What's that first line about again? oh so you are in on the club .... so full of it!!!

[AtarinDave]

 

It's always game on, on the Internet.

 

Just saying, I know Mike personally. I've met him, traded with him, talked with him on the phone, mostly around 2002-2003. If I look at this from the perspective of a person I know, even as a friend, rather than as an Internet person I don't know, I'm willing to say what positive things I can, rather than sharpen the axe with so many others.

 

I'm not making any judgement about truth or culpability.

 

I understand showing grace, man. In fact, I respect you for that. This being said, there has to be a line that's drawn. If all of this is true that he was using/scamming peeps for his own gain and REFUSING to apologize, and trying to cop-out, then I can't show him any. It would be one thing if he admitted his faults and apologized and took all the blame(rightfully so). Then I would respect him a bit more.

[ianoid]

 

 

It cannot be based on rational thinking, if it is based on friendship then what you have to give him is your support and privately at that.

I know, if I have anything nice to say, say it privately. My mistake!

[+phoenixdownita]

I know, if I have anything nice to say, say it privately. My mistake!

You've got nothing, like Mike.

It's not about "saying" ... it's about support and he needs plenty, and he needs it directly, you're not helping his case here, you're making it worse with your contempt of everyone else ... exactly like Mike keeps on doing.

 

Sure you can say you like his blue eyes, it's nice but not helping.

[ianoid]

Wait, missed this jab .... you sir are so full of it, what does Albert have to do with any of this?

 

What's that first line about again? oh so you are in on the club .... so full of it!!!

 

It was hardly a jab at Al. It was really my summary of the thread. And for the purposes of the post, Internet = AtariAge. I would be shocked if he took it as a jab. He is, in fact, much smarter than me, for staying out of this thread for the most part.

[shawnphase]

its a fact that a considerable portion of people here have dealt with mike over time just the same, i mean thats a lot of different degrees of favorable and unfavorable opinions people would have from him. you're going to get that. i think thats reasonable and expected and this isnt some stranger. but i find it hard to say that as people have asked him more and more questions here that he's ignored that his position in people's eyes can stay favorable if he keeps posting. what i said a few pages back about him, theres just more evidence of it with every post he makes. he has nothing to gain by posting what the deputy district attorney of the grand theft auto unit had to say here other than to publicly make himself look less accountable for what happened. and its how he's choosing to do it, because all eyes are clearly picking up whats being put down here. willful ignorance only gets you so far...in all of this mess.

[AtarinDave]

willful ignorance only gets you so far...in all of this mess.

Hmm, good point, actually. That would be like me refusing to believe that the Jaguar failed hard.

[ianoid]

You've got nothing like Mike.

It's not about "saying" ... it's about support and he needs plenty, and he needs it directly, you're not helping his case here, you're making it worse with your contempt of everyone else ... exactly like Mike keeps on doing.

 

Sure you can say you like his blue eyes, it;s nice but not helping.

It's so hard not to reply!

 

I am not at all contemptuous of everyone else, or you. Being tempered in my opinions (for whatever reason, and to whatever extent) is not necessarily disagreement or contempt.

 

It is a matter of opinion whether it is harder to make a public or private show of support in such a situation.

[pxlsicle]

You know, they SAY that they are sick of talking about it, but I am not entirely convinced.

 

I had a feeling that his latest appearance in this thread was going to generate some more CUPodcast subject material, and I was not disappointed.

I know that this is from a few pages back but I have to say...

 

I am genuinely sick to fucking death of talking about this nonsense. As people who have been covering this since the announcement of the RVGS we sort of had to follow up here but boy howdy... can this please stay buried? =D

 

At this point I'm ready for 18 more amiibo segments... =P

[+phoenixdownita]

 

It was hardly a jab at Al. It was really my summary of the thread. And for the purposes of the post, Internet = AtariAge. I would be shocked if he took it as a jab. He is, in fact, much smarter than me, for staying out of this thread for the most part.

So all that you got from the thread is that Mike did a "business mistake" .... and Internet is mean and Al is profiting (image or otherwise) from that.

Yep, the force runs strong in you. How about you do what Mike should have done with Sean and do a deep check on Mike's actions regarding the 2 failed attempts?

How about that? Does that sound fair?