Atlantis Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) This Lee guy seems to be one extreme masochist: It's the ultimate reverse-pleasure to collect it, paying huge money, and next just abandon it like trash. Maybe he all of a sudden saw the absurdness in collecting games he never would play. Maybe he is by now into collection Magic the gathering cards or stuffed animals... Or he all of a sudden met the love of his life, getting rid of his "ex" ms Jaguar. =)I got rid of my NES collection like it was trash. It never worked. Never played it, and when I did I didn't like it. I felt kind of sorry for the guy that bought it, and he felt sorry for me. I just didn't care and he who bought it got super happy finaly getting the Punch out version without Mike Tyson in it (Mr White or what ever instead). Yes, it can change pretty fast. I agree with that I like collecting games, find them´, bid, win and get them by mail. But I would never care for reselling them. It's just not my kind of fun or worth the effort imo. Edited January 5, 2016 by Atlantis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I'm guessing some other shenanigans. Just seems far too odd to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh3-rg Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) I'm guessing some other shenanigans. Just seems far too odd to me. Edited January 5, 2016 by sh3-rg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+madman Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Is everything a conspiracy theory with Jag fans? Honestly. If this guy stole a large Jag collection (or bought a stolen collection), with limited edition items, do you really think the first place he would come is a forum dedicated to the Jaguar where the owner would be monitoring to see if his stolen stuff popped up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 There was a nine lives cd in the lot, meaning whoever it came from was an idiot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I value this collection at approximately $3.77. Maybe $4.77 if you toss in a cookie with it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper Galactus Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I got rid of my NES collection like it was trash. It never worked. Never played it, and when I did I didn't like it. I felt kind of sorry for the guy that bought it, and he felt sorry for me. I just didn't care and he who bought it got super happy finaly getting the Punch out version without Mike Tyson in it (Mr White or what ever instead). I believe that was "Mr. Dream". Before the Mike Tyson version, Super Macho Man was the final boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Is everything a conspiracy theory with Jag fans? Honestly. If this guy stole a large Jag collection (or bought a stolen collection), with limited edition items, do you really think the first place he would come is a forum dedicated to the Jaguar where the owner would be monitoring to see if his stolen stuff popped up? After all of the other Australian fakes in the last few months it pays to be cautious. I wouldn't put it past one of them to come to the jag forum just to dick with us... Especially as that very scenario was suggested in the back and forth in that thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I cannot express enough how excited I am for this return. As comic-book guy once said... there is not an emoticon to properly convey my excitement. I value this collection at approximately $3.77. Maybe $4.77 if you toss in a cookie with it. If you hit the turbo switch, it'll be worth $8.77. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) I'd written a loooong reply and my laptop hard crashed for the first time in probably six months. Sucks to be me. I'm not writing that out again. In summary.1: I'm in AU but don't post much. I've been in and around the Jaguar scene for 20+ years...hell, I got a shout out on the Mad Bodies site for giving the author grief on JI II (I have no idea what that was about *shrug*). I know Serby (personally) and many other Jag and retro gamers / collectors. The 'scene' here is growing, but there's a core group of us Australia wide who've been into this stuff for 20 or 30 years...it's a shame none of us happened upon this collection. Who got rid of it and why - I dunno. Maybe it's this Lee bloke. Don't think I know him.2: I'd buy roughly half of this in a heartbeat. In one big go. Shipping to me would be cheap But the seller has made it clear he wants to go the individual item and eBay route. That's cool too. I'll be keeping a very close eye on eBay and will very likely grab some stuff I don't have.3: I could easily spend three or four or more hours itemising and giving my value on things, but as was pointed out earlier, if it's all going for profit then I think it's the reseller's job to do it. Between work and study my life is pretty busy and I'd normally charge $60 - $100 an hour to do someone else's research for them. Seriously though, and I think this is a problem with the Jaguar and retro scene in general, I could suggest prices (based on current retail for new stuff, or price guides I've developed for friends and myself) but if the seller has it in his head that a game is worth $X when it's being sold for $Y new elsewhere (where X >= Y), then by all means he can go for it. I wish the seller the best of luck in his sales. BUT when WTR, Robinson's Requiem, Skyhammer etc etc are all being sold new, I personally think an asking price of ~10% to 20% less than what the *new* games are being sold for is appropriate and probably the best strategy to move stock the quickest. I suggest he check the goatstore.com, eBay sold (not listed, not asking price, SOLD price) items, and even myatari.com and www.best-electronics-ca.comAs I said in #2, I'm very, VERY keen on some of this stuff, but I'll wait and see how it all goes. I'm patient. I recently grabbed two boxed new games locally (which is quite rare in itself) for less than half the standard ebay *asking* price. Given that for many of the older games were manufactured in numbers that probably approach the total number of Jaguars sold, I think it's well overdue for the Jaguar reseller / second hand market to shift toward more realistic pricing levels.And that's the brief version of what I wrote earlier Edited January 7, 2016 by skip 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Skip, you may have tried this but for future reference: More Reply Options -> View Auto Saved Content -> Restore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Thanks for that Here's a valuation list. In a book. Sure, it's a few years old, but I reckon it's a lot more on the money than ebay prices... https://books.google.com.au/books?id=PnPRd6QwvbQC&pg=PA49&lpg=PA49#v=onepage&q&f=false 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitari Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) No Australian refers to their country as 'down here'. Edited January 9, 2016 by Guitari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I could easily spend three or four or more hours itemising and giving my value on things, but as was pointed out earlier, if it's all going for profit then I think it's the reseller's job to do it. Between work and study my life is pretty busy and I'd normally charge $60 - $100 an hour to do someone else's research for them. ... this is such a good point! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender3455 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) I know it shouldn't bother me, but this Niitestalker has got me super irritated on his methodology. He comes in, asking for values on items that are tricky to value (no problem there). But when he gets his numbers (say, Battlesphere at an estimated 250.00 to 700.00), he shoots back by saying he's going to list at 800.00 OBO, and rejects anybody's offers to buy right now at a reasonable (and instant) rate (which he still would get a huge profit!). This guy is basically the type of person that I believes has destroyed retro gaming for the casual gamer, WAY MORE than the people who make repros or the people who buy and hoard games for themselves. Edited January 10, 2016 by bender3455 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I know it shouldn't bother me, but this Niitestalker has got me super irritated on his methodology. He comes in, asking for values on items that are tricky to value (no problem there). But when he gets his numbers (say, Battlesphere at an estimated 250.00 to 700.00), he shoots back by saying he's going to list at 800.00 OBO, and rejects anybody's offers to buy right now at a reasonable (and instant) rate (which he still would get a huge profit!). This guy is basically the type of person that I believes has destroyed retro gaming for the casual gamer, WAY MORE than the people who make repros or the people who buy and hoard games for themselves. Maybe it's all bull shit? Maybe it's just some weird dude who wants to show off his collection and get an idea of how much hypothetical money he has? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantis Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Maybe it's all bull shit? Maybe it's just some weird dude who wants to show off his collection and get an idea of how much hypothetical money he has? Yeah an eccentric billionaire troll, he he Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MacRorie Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 What we do know is that he got this set from the same person who won Cedric's 3rd auction (or second from the last as the case is). That would be item number: #281682042646, which sold for 155 Euros to a person named "m***a ( 1688)" eBay obviously obfuscates the names, but we could always ask Cedric who the third person was... unless there's some desire for anonymity. It would just be nice to know if in fact the person who sold the collection to Nightstalker, was the legitimate owner of the collection and had the right to do so. That's the number for the first auction. It did indeed sell for 155 Euros THIS http://www.ebay.com/itm/281697996966 is the 3rd auction and it sold for 306 euros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariDean Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 This is he guy that posted on face book jaguar fans a few wks back. This type of greed ruins it for people that are passionate about Atari systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantis Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) This is he guy that posted on face book jaguar fans a few wks back. This type of greed ruins it for people that are passionate about Atari systems. This guy and fiends are the people that made gamers' cartridge collections into pure goldmines. 15 years ago I had an add out on internet that said I wanted to sell my neo geo system with eight games (I changed my mind like the second after) and this guy called me up around 10 years ago saying he wanted to buy all of it. He said he was a police and that he wanted to buy this system for his kids as a fun gadget to play with for a good price, acting like it was any ordinary game system, and I said no after listening to him a while, and gave him the suggestion to pick up a NES or something instead. Six month later he called again with a new role to play. This time, with the same voice but new name, he said he was in the act of building a video game museum and wanted to by the neo for that, and if I could help him with that. I played along for a while, then said that I had changed my mind and that it was not for sale. A couple of months after that he called a third time, but before he got into his acting (i regret I didn't listen to it) I told him right of that IT'S NOT FOR SALE, KAY! He never called again. Creepy guy. I wonder what they do for the money they gain, lie farting at some beach I guess or buying the latest and biggest tv set. Weird people. Edited January 18, 2016 by Atlantis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niitestalker Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 I think Lee used to post at JS2 he was one of the few Australian Jag collectors aside from Serblander if I remember correctly. I also find it odd that someone who collects such specific items would just toss them away but you never know what can occur to someone. Hey, possible sounds right, His the one prob because his a atari jaguar collector. Well he wanted money too and he wasnt playing them much often and wanted to sell up. To be honest ive never dealt with ataris much but I had a nintendo collectiojn and other stuff so 1 day I decidded to sell up too, this was only 1 year ago and a bit, then after as im selling few items only I decided well let me know own my game shop and share amongst community and make money too as I buy and sell packages and individuals from ebay or the australian fb groups or gumtree etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niitestalker Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Well Its come down to that point now that very very soon they will be listed on ebay, Dont believe it. well its going up soon. look it doesnt matter who or where I got it from, in the end, if your a collector and you need a specific item or 2 in your collection then youd check ur pockets and if enuff then to buy it. I bought it for such price, and im selling it. this isnt a show off as such, Collectors want money for bulk lots at once so they ask resellers as always. what price they want is what they ask, and up to the buyer to agree with that price or haggle.I have a full SMS conversation between me and the seller but there is no need to provide that information when im just here for a valuation, so if your after battlesphere and its worth XXXXXXXX then i just wanted to know rather me selling it for XX and kill myself or XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX over price it, because if ur wanting it for ur collection, u may be very well interested to spend the right amount for it because example, its ur LAST piece or near there.....All I asked for is some help really, I know my nintendo stuff as always but just atari isnt that common.Good luck everyone, and items may be listed soon or in a week or 2 time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh3-rg Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 See this door frame? 9 feet tall. Ur want Jaguar rare gaemz? I got tdem. Don't believe it? Well its going up, I no how 2 deal warez, yo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerx Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Good grief. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 See this door frame? 9 feet tall. Ur want Jaguar rare gaemz? I got tdem. Don't believe it? Well its going up, I no how 2 deal warez, yo. Hahahah!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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