Mendon #1 Posted April 20, 2003 I just received a Jag Pro Controller; I know that Iron Soldier and some of the fighting games make use of it. Was just wondering if anyone has a list of Jag games that take advantage of the Pro Controller? Thanks in advance! Mendon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stone #2 Posted April 20, 2003 I just received a Jag Pro Controller; I know that Iron Soldier and some of the fighting games make use of it. Was just wondering if anyone has a list of Jag games that take advantage of the Pro Controller? It may help you to know that the extra buttons are actually just mapped to the keypad: X=1 Y=2 Z=3 (Z and X may be the other way around...experiment) Left shoulder button is 4, and right shoulder button is 6. So you can use a Procontroller with pretty much any game using the keypad. Games I know of which have functions specifically for the procontroller (sidestepping mapped to 4/6, for example, which is a pain to do with a standard controller) are (in no particular order): AvP (sidestepping) Worms (grenade settings, some options) Primal Rage (procontroller setup lets you use all 6 buttons) Atari Karts (hard turn left and right) Battlemorph (everything) Battlesphere (everything) Ruiner Pinball (fingertip buttons tilt left and right) Ultra Vortek Syndicate (everything) Cybermorph I think you can change web views with x/y/z in T2K as well. Hope that helped! Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunstar #3 Posted April 20, 2003 Actually, with AvP, I'm almost positive the sidestepping is mapped to the 7 and 9 buttons on the keypad, which would be the x&z buttons on the procontroller(Towers II uses the shoulder buttons for strafing), I told someone the same as you did once, then the next time I played, realized my mistake. But as Stone said, any game that uses the keypad extensively, has the ability to take advantage of the extra procontroller buttons. Like in Cybermorph, you can use the shoulder buttons to change views, Doom lets you change between a few weapons with the pro buttons (as well as AvP), Blue lightning use the shoulder buttons for afterburner and airbrakes, and the X,Y&Z buttons to change from cockpit to external with I believe the Y button and the x&z do something too, that I forget offhand. The list goes on and on. There are actually only a small number of games that don't take advantage of procontroller buttons in one way or another, mostly the platformers(Rayman, Pitfall, etc), shooters (Raiden, TrevorMcfur, etc.) and half the fighters (DDV, Kasumi Ninja, Dragon:Burcelee) the other fighters do use them. there are a few others that don't use the buttons, but the majority of Jag games use them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBizDude #4 Posted April 22, 2003 I agree with GunStar and Stone's assessments. Interesting enough, there are only 3 titles rated as being 'pro controller compatible': Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunstar #5 Posted April 22, 2003 on the box, there are a lot more that say they are compatible in the manual...and then those that just are anyway, because Atari was wise enough to at least map the buttons to current keypad ones for maximaum compatibility! 1 of the few things they actually did right! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert #6 Posted April 22, 2003 I remember doing some digging on this back when I was working on the Jaguar section. In fact, I think you can get a list of all the Jaguar Pro Controller games in our database. Let me see here... Atari Jaguar Pro Controller There are only seven games listed here, looks like I need to update it! I'll wait until this thread settles down a bit. ..Al 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge #7 Posted September 4, 2003 Bump. Just received my pro-controller today. I still need to try it out on a game besides T2K. Edge Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walter_J64bit #8 Posted September 4, 2003 You can all most play DD5 with the Pro Controller Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walter_J64bit #9 Posted September 5, 2003 You can all most play DD5 with the Pro Controller You know if I could make my own JoyStick I would make two that are compattible with DD5 so I can play the game! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stephen Moss #10 Posted September 5, 2003 Games I know of which have functions specifically for the procontroller (sidestepping mapped to 4/6, for example, which is a pain to do with a standard controller) are (in no particular order): AvP (sidestepping) Actually sidestepping in AvP is not that difficult using a normal controller as it can be performed using C+Direction. I think that most people (myself included) forget this option is available due to the overlays, I only re-descovered it while play testing my adaptor. I have noticed that many games have a similar if not identical control system for example, A+Direction to control object speed is this coincidence or did Atari specify a control format for software developers to follow? If so then the C+Direction sidestep may work for other games as well even if it is not documented. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Dangerous #11 Posted November 27, 2014 Is this more or less up to date? Anyone seeing anything missing? Now that I finally have a pro controller (out in the open) I'm realizing how few games actually make use of it..lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+CyranoJ #12 Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Full Circle: Rocketeer Not that I actually have a Pro Controller to test with... or a Lamborghini, Edited November 27, 2014 by CyranoJ 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twoquickcapri #13 Posted November 30, 2014 Not that I actually have a Pro Controller to test with... or a Lamborghini, If You Build It, It Will Come 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andromeda Stardust #14 Posted November 30, 2014 I've got a PRO controller and it's a great piece of tech. I kinda like having the thumbsticks above the Dpad rather than below like Sony. Better for classic game use and I can easily reach the sticks with my man hands. Oh, wait, this is a JAG thread... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Dangerous #15 Posted November 30, 2014 Love me some Wii U pro controller! It's my go-to if I am allowed to avoid the gamepad. I was playing NBA Jam the other day and didn't see any button menu's in options that Utilitzed XYZ might have to break out the manual. So.. Regular Production Run Games Atari Karts Battlemorph Missile Command 3D NBA Jam Primal Rage Post Production Run Battlesphere Skyhammer Total Carnage Towers II Worms Whats missing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeterG #16 Posted November 30, 2014 I always liked the easy way to change weapons for Iron Solider 1 and 2,I got very used to do it on the pro controller Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isgoed #17 Posted November 30, 2014 Fight for life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matthias #18 Posted December 13, 2014 Hello,my Jaguar game Impulse X does also support the Pro Controller.Best regardsMatthias Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripletopper #19 Posted September 3, 2018 Planning on getting a pair of Jaguar Re-produciton Pro Controllers. Already got one genuine one. It looks like the extra buttons come in handy for more games than advertised. The problem is I will have 3 Pro controllers. If I'm right, the only 2 games that are more than 2 players are NBA Jam and White Men Can't Jump. Do either of THOSE games use a Jag Pro Pad, (Including any of the keypad buttons that might be mapped to the L,R,X,Y. and Z). If it's similar to the arcade, I know NBA Jam is a 3-button game, Jump/Block/Shoot, Pass/Steal, and Turbo. Does WMCJ use any of the extra buttons? If No, then I'm selling one re-pro Jag Pro controller because I must buy 2 in one pack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gummy Bear #20 Posted September 3, 2018 NBA Jam can use the shoulder buttons for turbo. Way better than trying to mash your thumb between 2 buttons at once. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neogeoman #21 Posted September 12, 2018 As I was going through my collection and digging through my storage boxes I not only found my pro controller in its original box that I cant wait to fire up but I also found a second one that I forgot I had still sealed in it's original box in plastic wrap. Definately a nice find considering what they're selling for today... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gummy Bear #22 Posted September 12, 2018 Yeah man. You could retire after selling that sucker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neogeoman #23 Posted September 12, 2018 Yeah I can't believe what these things are going for these days...its insane! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripletopper #24 Posted October 16, 2018 It may help you to know that the extra buttons are actually just mapped to the keypad: X=1 Y=2 Z=3 (Z and X may be the other way around...experiment) Left shoulder button is 4, and right shoulder button is 6. So you can use a Procontroller with pretty much any game using the keypad. Games I know of which have functions specifically for the procontroller (sidestepping mapped to 4/6, for example, which is a pain to do with a standard controller) are (in no particular order): AvP (sidestepping) Worms (grenade settings, some options) Primal Rage (procontroller setup lets you use all 6 buttons) Atari Karts (hard turn left and right) Battlemorph (everything) Battlesphere (everything) Ruiner Pinball (fingertip buttons tilt left and right) Ultra Vortek Syndicate (everything) Cybermorph I think you can change web views with x/y/z in T2K as well. Hope that helped! Stone Do all the Jag Pro pads act as the same keys universally, or are they changeable by the software? (Is Z, Y, X, 4, and 6, ALWAYS 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6, respectively, or can it be changed by the software) If the software can change it, maybe I SHOULD get that second Jag Pro pad for a fight stick. But if they universally map, I'll just use a standard Jag Pad, and augment it with a 3.5 mm system where any button on my joystrick can equal any key. By the way, in street fighter terms, (just in terms of corresponding button layout, there is no Street Fighter Anything for the Jaguar, but there is for the 3DO, and there is Primal Rage for both with a similar layout.) is L the 3K button and R the 3P punch button in a standard 4 column x 2 row layout, or vice versa? I know C is QK, B is MK, A is HK, Z is QP, Y is Mp, and X is HP. I recognize the 3 column x 2 row layout that made Street Fighter famous. Also has anyone considered a Saturn controller to Jag console with an add on keypad that can be fit on a Saturn Controller, with the 12 keys and the Option Key separate. Becuase the Saturn has a 3x2 layout and 2 shoulder buttons like the Jaguar Pro, just no keypad and option button. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skip #25 Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) The pro buttons are hard wired to the equivalent number pad buttons 1, 2, 3, 4, 6. Games that are enhanced can (but not often) have a pro-controller option that re-maps to the software's wishes. I can only think of Defender 2000 classic mode and Primal Rage that have interchangeable settings between standard and pro. Check out the other threads and also the manuals for Jag games on this site for a full / developing list. Edited October 16, 2018 by skip Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites