MitchSchaft Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Yes, on the 800xl, you have to get rid of the socket. This is a soldering job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 5:47 PM, RollyD5000 said: Thanks all, but I have a fully socketed Atari 800XL made in Hong Kong, and I'm at home now, trying it out, and, to be frank, no surprise at all, that it very clearly does not fit. By chance, does your 800XL have an ALPS keyboard? That particular keyboard has a much lower clearance than the other (3?) types. Similarly, @tf_hh created an alternate version of his 512K upgrade to better fit in this machine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 3 hours ago, RollyD5000 said: I have a thin ic socket that raises it up and absolutely prevents the case from closing and to be clear, it isn’t remotely possible that there is a socket of any height that would both clear the chip in front and allow the case to close. It is not close, it is in the realm of clearly not happening. Also I have two Atari 800xl, full socketed. Both have the same issue. Pity. At least i have two attempts at this but most likely scenario is I destroy them both I will attempt to desolder the socket that holds the tall chip in front and lower the chip to the board It is unnecessary. The only chip that interferes with the Antonia is the delay line (C060472). Just remove it together with all RAM chips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 3 hours ago, RollyD5000 said: it isn’t remotely possible that there is a socket of any height that would both clear the chip in front and allow the case to close. Did you remove the bottom shielding too? I have my ANTONIA in a 600XL with an AWC keyboard. It's true that I had to really push down with some pressure to get the case to close and that the ANTONIA is surely making some contact with the bottom of the keyboard but I did eventually get everything to fit. The case is screwed together tightly and there are no gaps between the top and bottom halves. If it will fit into that tiny 600XL case, I don't see any reason that you shouldn't be able to get it to work inside an 800XL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Simius said: The only chip that interferes with the Antonia is the delay line (C060472). Just remove it together with all RAM chips. I didn't remove my delay chip. Is this a necessity or is it optional? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 SS it is a necessity... as stated it interferes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, _The Doctor__ said: SS it is a necessity... as stated it interferes... I thought we didn't say SS here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR> Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Not necessary in your 600XL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 8 hours ago, SS said: I didn't remove my delay chip. Is this a necessity or is it optional? It is optional, of course. You can to remove the OS ROM and the BASIC ROM as well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 why did I read 800Xl instead of 600XL? ah I mixed up more that one post and didn't see it properly... face palm...palm... face (I think they're acquainted now) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 5 hours ago, _The Doctor__ said: why did I read 800Xl instead of 600XL? ah I mixed up more that one post and didn't see it properly... face palm...palm... face (I think they're acquainted now) Don't fret it. Until just the other day, I apparently was confused in thinking that the PokeyOne and the PokeyMAX were the same thing. I felt like a royal jackass when I finally realized *that* mistake. I blame my old brain that's slowing turning to mush. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR> Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 6 hours ago, _The Doctor__ said: why did I read 800Xl instead of 600XL? ah I mixed up more that one post and didn't see it properly... face palm...palm... face (I think they're acquainted now) Can blame the eyes too. 6 and 8 look a lot alike and our eyes aren't getting any better either. I'm just glad I'm near sighted so I can still see the fine print pretty well. Don't need those large fonts yet! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Is there any way to change the OS & BASIC description names in the ANTONIA Configurator menu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnl Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Hi did you ever get round to making this memory upgrade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 some time ago I patched this program to work on atari (6502) and added a library of rom names (names taken from Altirra) write to the author, maybe he will add this library 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) Whatever happened to the ram project Edited May 26, 2020 by GDMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 @xxl: http://www.wudsn.com/productions/atari800/atariromchecker/help/AtariROMChecker.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olix Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 I have now read through all 22 pages of this thread and understand that I can remove RAM, OS, BASIC and the two 74LS158 without any problems when the Antonia is installed. What is a little confusing are the statements about removing the DelayLine: Once it says you can remove it but you have to put a jumper between pin 6 and 7. Later it says in another post you can just remove the DelayLine. Is it necessary to bridge pin 6 and 7 or can I remove the DelayLine without this bridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 This bridge is only necessary when you use a PBI device. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 since a person may have such a pbi device in the future (knowingly or unknowingly) I'd say is it is necessary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsonny Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Can these still be purchased? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olix Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 13 hours ago, _The Doctor__ said: since a person may have such a pbi device in the future (knowingly or unknowingly) I'd say is it is necessary. ... so if it has no negativ effects, then i think it's a good idea to set this little wire-bridge. I will also connect the EXSEL pin to the corresponding position of PBI. Who knows if I will need this in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 11 hours ago, macsonny said: Can these still be purchased? Sure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsonny Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 25 minutes ago, Simius said: Sure Site or link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymanone Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, macsonny said: Site or link? He sells it directly, just write him a PM 😉. Cheers, andY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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