+mytek Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 If you look at the TDLINE display, you'll notice that it shows an 'a' for AM, whereas the file 'DATA_IN.BAS' which was saved only a few minutes earlier has a time stamp of 12:39P (which is correct). At 1PM the TDLINE display will change to a 'p' for PM as it should be. Everything else works properly, and the date will change at midnight as it is suppose to.Anyone else have this problem? Or is it just me? Has this been fixed in the latest release? - Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 That's odd. What do you get when you type DATE ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Issue appears to persist in SDX 4.47. Never noticed before. Of course it only crops up using the US time format, since the European format uses 24 hour clock notation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Does that mean that at 00:00 it shows 12:00 pm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Does that mean that at 00:00 it shows 12:00 pm? No. Oddly, it shows 0:00:00a instead of 12:00:00a. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) That's odd. What do you get when you type DATE ? Don't know (it's now 2pm over here, and everything looks good right now). I'll check it some other day before it flips over to 1pm and corrects itself, although I suspect it is just a TDLINE issue since the file time stamp was correct. Issue appears to persist in SDX 4.47. Never noticed before. Of course it only crops up using the US time format, since the European format uses 24 hour clock notation. Leave it to me to discover a new bug Although it is a relatively harmless one, since all the time stamping aspects are good. I wonder how long this has existed (how many versions back)? - Michael Edited March 4, 2016 by mytekcontrols 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Issue appears to persist in SDX 4.47. Never noticed before. Of course it only crops up using the US time format, since the European format uses 24 hour clock notation. I would not be surprised if someone ripped the code of the TDLINE routine(s) from a certain XEX you and I know.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 I would not be surprised if someone ripped the code of the TDLINE routine(s) from a certain XEX you and I know.... That sounds ominous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Yes, it's a confirmed bug... It should go for zero hour 00:00:00 up to 23:59:59 there is no 12:00am in the computer world, the military or gmt. However an exception is made for when people choose the am/pm format... 00:00:00 can have the 12 placed and the counter should go from 12:00:00a to 11:59:59a then from 12:00:00p to 11:59:59p the problem persists because the storage to the rtime cart should still be in 24 hour format and tdline should do the conversion... the re worked tdline also had a problem with ntsc and time skipping about plus or minus 10 seconds... I thought my cart went bad but it still works perfectly with older sparta dos versions... albeit with the wrong day etc... timing timing timing.....what can you say.... It's still a little better than it was at one point but still not exactly all the way there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) Maybe due to new time clocks that are made and used we need different tdline methods. but a stable and pretty accurate clock is always nice I was trying to ignore the problem but it just bothers me as well..... I thought that the powers that be were aware... and would get around to it.. but your right... when reading about it.. you see they knew the had a problem and thought they fixed it... silly me... something forgotten and slipped thru... it happens Edited March 4, 2016 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 Maybe due to new time clocks that are made and used we need different tdline methods. but a stable and pretty accurate clock is always nice I was trying to ignore the problem but it just bothers me as well..... I thought that the powers that be were aware... and would get around to it.. but your right... when reading about it.. you see they knew the had a problem and thought they fixed it... silly me... something forgotten and slipped thru... it happens Its no biggie, since it is only visual and usually I can figure out the difference between 12am and 12pm (look out the window... is the sun out?... Yes, then it must be 12pm). The good thing is that the time stamp is accurate. I just brought this topic up because I wasn't sure if there was something I had done wrong on my side of things (always a good possibility). Thanks for the explanations. - Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 It's something that needs to be done.... as many have mentioned and noticed it... it's not just you... trust in that.... and now that it's completely confirmed something more than likely will be done to fix it up. This is a good thing to know! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Many people may have noticed this (a minor cosmetic issue which is easy to fix) in the last hour, but as usual what was required was someone (Michael) to a) notice and b) write about it so the developers are made aware. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I guess we are all just so used to time passing by and for people to get around to it that we forget to speak up about it anymore. Maybe real life and just plain forgetfulness leads to so many things never being fully completed.... Anyhow...Mytek broke the silence and that's a good thing! Should an email be sent to make the bug(s) formally reported again or is did you already speak/msg him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Guess I never noticed this issue, since my Ataris are never on except 9PM to 4AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I never noticed this issue because I prefer the 24 hour format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 Yeah I was on 24 hour time until just a few days ago, and just couldn't get used to it (old habits die hard). So when I switched over to 12 hour is when I noticed it. Funny thing was that it caused me to go back and reset the time even though it was already correct, then after I discovered my mistake I reset it again. At first this just made me scratch my head and chalk it up to the fact that I just joined the 6 decade club recently. But then I noticed what the real problem was and decided to report my findings. Glad to hear that this might help others as well when the fix gets implemented down the road. - Michael 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Konrad is aware of the issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) Yes, thanks for writing about it. I believe it is already fixed for the upcoming 4.48 release. I guess it went unnoticed, because hardly anyone uses the 12-hour format here, so even if the TD Line displays time in this format, hardly anyone is enough familiar with it to tell immediately, that the displayed hour is wrong. And no, TDLine code is not ripped from anywhere, it is just the old ICD TD Line with some changes. EDIT: the problem with seconds going unevenly on NTSC machines came from the fact that the time probing was synced to PAL framerate. I believe I fixed also this at the occasion. Edited March 5, 2016 by drac030 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 And no, TDLine code is not ripped from anywhere, it is just the old ICD TD Line with some changes. It was a joke, but obviously not visible for other people There was a certain person here on AtariAge that was so scared to release a demo of his game, because people could steal his code. So I assumed that TDLine was probably built upon this ripped code Probably anything released for a8 is based upon ripped code of his demo LOL. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) I once typed this... 710 ? " enter amount "; and was accused of stealing code because that was the exact same line number and wording was used... although the program in question was for completely different idea and purpose and that was the only line that matched up or resembled anything else... people are nuts! a print statement is not exactly top secret... you 'code' stealing basic user you! next we can explore the legal ramifications of using emoji Edited March 5, 2016 by _The Doctor__ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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