high voltage #51 Posted March 30, 2016 Just fuck the doubters and enjoy you got a rare game. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marvinnl #52 Posted March 30, 2016 Well... here it is! The moment you've all been waiting for... I've uploaded the video to my Google Drive, due to limited permissions (it seems) I cannot embed the video in a post, so click here to watch the video. So... OMG IT'S REAL High-res pictures of the PCB: 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marvinnl #53 Posted March 30, 2016 Ok I didn't post my red flags in that marketplace but I will here. I'm sure it is totally legit this came from his uncle in the USA while he lives in the Netherlands and the damage was caused by him and his nephews when they were kids. Just saying. I mean it is possible a 10 year old has 8 year old nephews who are on a trip together visiting an uncle in the USA playing a super rare Atari game. Completely possible. What I think is more possible is he is just fishing for info on how people know it is fake vs real.... I generally keep that information private. It's best not to tell scammers how to get better. I learned this back many years ago when I was buying sealed nes and got fakes and the seller wanted to know how I knew.... yeah like I'm going to tell you! Well? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird3rd #54 Posted March 30, 2016 Very good, thanks! I'm about 95% sure that this is real. The only other detail I could possibly want to see is a side view of the chip (through the open side of the RF shield) with a good light shining on it. If the chip looks like black plastic, that's almost a sure sign it's an original ROM; if it looks like a ceramic EPROM, it could be a copy that someone covered up by resoldering the RF shield over top of it, although in this case, it doesn't really look like a resoldered board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marvinnl #55 Posted March 30, 2016 Very good, thanks! I'm about 95% sure that this is real. The only other detail I could possibly want to see is a side view of the chip (through the open side of the RF shield) with a good light shining on it. If the chip looks like black plastic, that's almost a sure sign it's an original ROM; if it looks like a ceramic EPROM, it could be a copy that someone covered up by resoldering the RF shield over top of it, although in this case, it doesn't really look like a resoldered board. Grabbing the camera! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird3rd #56 Posted March 30, 2016 Actually, on second thought, that's not much of a concern: if it was an EPROM under that RF shield, it would also need an inverter (usually a 74LS04 chip) to generate the chip enable signal. This board clearly doesn't have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marvinnl #57 Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) Actually, on second thought, that's not much of a concern: if it was an EPROM under that RF shield, it would also need an inverter (usually a 74LS04 chip) to generate the chip enable signal. This board clearly doesn't have one. Here you go! I've looked up some images of ceramic packages, those are a lot lighter grey and have a rougher texture. This clearly is black smooth plastic, although it is a bit hard to see on the photo because of the harsh flashlight light. Edited March 30, 2016 by marvinnl 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+D Train #58 Posted March 30, 2016 Hey, after watching the video... I don't understand how the removing and reapplying process works. you can heat/blow-dry and peel *any* cartridge label? How do you pull it without creasing/stressing it? How do you reapply it? Is there a particular glue? If anyone can shed some light on this, I would be greatly appreciative. Feel free to PM me, rather than subjecting people to information that they already know. Thanks! david Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
icemanxp300 #59 Posted March 30, 2016 Well? Well looks legit from what I know. You should have no problem selling it now, if you want to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Random Terrain #60 Posted March 30, 2016 I've uploaded the video to my Google Drive . . . YouTube videos work here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
icemanxp300 #61 Posted March 30, 2016 YouTube videos work here. Barely. it is soooo annoying not being able to go full screen anymore. Not sure what happened but it sucks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Random Terrain #62 Posted March 30, 2016 Barely. it is soooo annoying not being able to go full screen anymore. Not sure what happened but it sucks. Full screen works for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iktwui_3IPQ Maybe you need the info on this page: support.google.com/youtube/answer/6276924?hl=en Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
icemanxp300 #63 Posted March 31, 2016 Full screen works for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iktwui_3IPQ Maybe you need the info on this page: support.google.com/youtube/answer/6276924?hl=en I meant on AA. I can get full screen on youtube and other sites just not here anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Random Terrain #64 Posted March 31, 2016 I meant on AA. I can get full screen on youtube and other sites just not here anymore. That's what I mean. I press play and the little icon is on the bottom right. It goes full screen right here at AtariAge when I click it. If it's not working for you and you use Firefox, the solution in the link might fix it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+RangerG #65 Posted March 31, 2016 With April 1st coming, Albert should retitle the site Candyland and have two main forums, rainbows and waterfalls, ha! I love AA for its hospitality, never change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deteacher #66 Posted March 31, 2016 Well... here it is! The moment you've all been waiting for... I've uploaded the video to my Google Drive, due to limited permissions (it seems) I cannot embed the video in a post, so click here to watch the video. So... OMG IT'S REAL High-res pictures of the PCB: And we have a winner! Looks pretty legit! Congrats on your acquisition! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BZachLaLonde #67 Posted March 31, 2016 Probably because you referred to a record as a "vinyl".. Hahaha I was just trying to fit in! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supergun #68 Posted March 31, 2016 Hey, after watching the video... I don't understand how the removing and reapplying process works. you can heat/blow-dry and peel *any* cartridge label? How do you pull it without creasing/stressing it? How do you reapply it? Is there a particular glue? If anyone can shed some light on this, I would be greatly appreciative. Feel free to PM me, rather than subjecting people to information that they already know. Thanks! david When properly administered, the heat applied to the cart sticker causes the adhesive layer between the cart and the cart sticker to gravitate towards the sticker. It tends to want to stick more to the sticker then to the cart when heated. This allows for a greater chance of success when peeling up the sticker. In addition, there is no need to peel the sticker off completely; rather just enough to access the area where the cart screws are located. Then, time is the enemy. Get in and out of there as quickly as possible. (be prepared ahead of time) If done efficiently, the sticker can be reapplied and when the heat dissipates, as the temperature cools, the glue simply dries; once again acting as an adhesive for the sticker, and is unaffected. If you do take too long, you can either heat it up again and/or simply use an arts & crafts glue stick. Granted, this process does not work with all cart stickers for all carts for all systems. But it has a very high success rate. I have used it over the years mostly just to center cart stickers properly that were not applied perfectly at the factory. It's also the main reason why I have never and never will pay so much as a dime for an inverted Jenny label variation. (because anyone can simply create them) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+D Train #69 Posted March 31, 2016 Thank you for that primer! It explains a lot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hizzy #70 Posted March 31, 2016 Congrats on a great find! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoulBlazer #71 Posted March 31, 2016 Well, look on the bright side -- at least if you end up posting this on EBay you got all the work done with the pics and videos that you made. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marvinnl #72 Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) Thanks for all the kind words, lads, I really appreciate it. I'm working now on the photos for the eBay ad, chances are I put it on later today. The label went back on just fine BTW, no damage done. It really was as easy as heating up the cart and carefully pressing the label against the shell. Edited April 2, 2016 by marvinnl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
high voltage #73 Posted April 2, 2016 You should keep it. Regrettable I sold my VCS collection in 2004, when I had no interest in the system. It included cib Boing!, cib Condor Attack, cib grey box Hangman, plus many other great titles (had ~270 carts). One of the biggest mistakes in my life (besides marriage). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marvinnl #74 Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) Allright, it's on eBay! I'll post this in the marketplace here as well, so everybody can get a fair chance to bid on it. Click here to go to eBay! Happy bidding! I secretly hope it ends up at somebody from here Edited April 2, 2016 by marvinnl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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