1 Meg Super AMS Discussion Thread

[+Ksarul]

Here is AMSTEST V4, which is what you need for the SW99ers version of the card and for the current 1M version.

AMSTEST4.DSK

[pcoderdude14]

Hey All! :-)

Thanks Ksarul! :-) That should work great!

 

Sincerely,...

 

Jt

[mr_gw454]

Hi everyone -

 

I realize this is an older thread, but wondering if the Super AMS board is still available?  I hear there is at least one new game coming out that requires it. 

 

Thanks!

[+Ksarul]

I build them to order, and I also make them available on the ArcadeShopper site. I think he has two up right now, but if they are already gone I'll have half a dozen more ready within the next week or so (the boards are actually ready, but I used the last of my 74LS04s for the first three so I'm waiting on my resupply to arrive).

[wierd_w]

If I wanted to have a flex cable interface card made, who would I talk to?

 

If I do not win Globeron's auction (or worse, he cannot ship it internationally at the price point stated), I will need one should I embark down building a PEB.  My electrician skills are abhorrent. Much better at planing material and fab requirements, than handling an iron.

 

 

 

[+arcadeshopper]

If I wanted to have a flex cable interface card made, who would I talk to?
 
If I do not win Globeron's auction (or worse, he cannot ship it internationally at the price point stated), I will need one should I embark down building a PEB.  My electrician skills are abhorrent. Much better at planing material and fab requirements, than handling an iron.
 
 
 

I have a couple in stock here.

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[wierd_w]

Slick, I will keep that in mind.

[mr_gw454]

2 hours ago, Ksarul said:

I build them to order, and I also make them available on the ArcadeShopper site. I think he has two up right now, but if they are already gone I'll have half a dozen more ready within the next week or so (the boards are actually ready, but I used the last of my 74LS04s for the first three so I'm waiting on my resupply to arrive).

Hi Ksarul,

 

I appreciate the quick response.  I did check Greg's site, but it says he's out of stock.

 

Could you add me to a list for one?

 

Thank you very much

 

[+Ksarul]

ArcadeShopper may not have posted the two I told him were ready yesterday (yet)--but I will keep one from the next batch on hand for you if he doesn't respond here first.

[+arcadeshopper]

They are in now

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[FDOS]

I'm more interested in a side car for a 1 MB SAMS.  I started such a project a year or so ago, more like a mini-PEB, as it was intended for 3 expansion cards.  Unfortunately, my physical capabilities keep going down hill, so not able to to complete that project.  I've also came to the conclusion, that a better project would be a 1 MB SAMS side car suitable for replacing the 32K card use for the more popular TIPI system.  Anyone else interested?

 

Bill

[Asmusr]

 

[jrhodes]

18 minutes ago, FDOS said:

I'm more interested in a side car for a 1 MB SAMS.  I started such a project a year or so ago, more like a mini-PEB, as it was intended for 3 expansion cards.  Unfortunately, my physical capabilities keep going down hill, so not able to to complete that project.  I've also came to the conclusion, that a better project would be a 1 MB SAMS side car suitable for replacing the 32K card use for the more popular TIPI system.  Anyone else interested?

 

Bill

That would be ideal for someone like me.

Very interested in such a project.

Was also wanting RS232, and almost decided on the Nano-PEB at first, but ultimately decided to go TIPI.

If someone could make a board that sandwiches in-between the 32K (or future SAMS board) and TIPI to provide RS232 that would be great.

Memory board > RS232 board > TIPI

[+arcadeshopper]

That would be ideal for someone like me.
Very interested in such a project.
Was also wanting RS232, and almost decided on the Nano-PEB at first, but ultimately decided to go TIPI.
If someone could make a board that sandwiches in-between the 32K (or future SAMS board) and TIPI to provide RS232 that would be great.
Memory board > RS232 board > TIPI

Just curious what you need rs232 for? The TIPI does most of what you would need it for

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[jrhodes]

Need? I don't.

Want? Yup.

Why? Why not.

May be fun to hack around with too.

[+arcadeshopper]

Need? I don't.
Want? Yup.
Why? Why not.
May be fun to hack around with too.

Gotcha

There are external rs232 sidecars out there I have one on one of my TIPI setups...



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[FDOS]

1 hour ago, Asmusr said:

 

My X4th99 development requires a minimum of 256K AMS for the application, and can use all of the remainder of a 1 MB SAMS for tracked disk buffering for hard disk drives MFM, IDE, SCSI and floppy diskettes!

 

RETRO Bill

[FDOS]

1 hour ago, jrhodes said:

That would be ideal for someone like me.

Very interested in such a project.

Was also wanting RS232, and almost decided on the Nano-PEB at first, but ultimately decided to go TIPI.

If someone could make a board that sandwiches in-between the 32K (or future SAMS board) and TIPI to provide RS232 that would be great.

Memory board > RS232 board > TIPI

Another earlier idea was to disable the 32K of a NanoPEB, so it could then be connected to a TI Speech Synthesizer and a 1MB SAMS sidecar.

 

RETRO Bill

[Asmusr]

18 minutes ago, FDOS said:

My X4th99 development requires a minimum of 256K AMS for the application, and can use all of the remainder of a 1 MB SAMS for tracked disk buffering for hard disk drives MFM, IDE, SCSI and floppy diskettes!

 

RETRO Bill

It sounds like 64MB should be plenty then :-)

[RXB]

RXB 2015E AMS TEST PROGRAM IN RXB:

10 ! THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN
11 ! MODIFIED SO NO ASSEMBLY
12 ! IS USED. RXB COMMANDS
13 ! ARE THE ONLY COMMANDS
14 ! USED. THAT MEANS THE
15 ! AMS CAN HAVE ANY PAGE
16 ! SWAPED FROM RXB.
17 !*********************
18 !*                   *
19 !*    XB AMS CARD    *
20 !*   QUERY PROGRAM   *
21 !*                   *
22 !*********************
23 !VERSION 1.07.951206
24 !BY P. E. SCHIPPNICK
25 !MODIFIED FOR RXB
26 !BY RICH GILBERTSON
27 CALL CLEAR :: GOSUB 28 :: GOTO 29
28 CALL VCHAR(1,31,31,96) :: RETURN
29 FOR I=1 TO 14 :: CALL COLOR(I,2,8) :: NEXT I
30 CALL SCREEN(15)
31 GOTO 33
32 DISPLAY AT(ROW,(28-LEN(TEXT$))/2):TEXT$ :: RETURN
33 ROW=10 :: TEXT$="TI EXTENDED BASIC" :: GOSUB 32
34 ROW=11 :: TEXT$="AMS CARD" :: GOSUB 32
35 ROW=12 :: TEXT$="QUERY PROGRAM" :: GOSUB 32
36 ROW=13 :: TEXT$="VERSION 1.07" :: GOSUB 32
37 ROW=15 :: TEXT$="BY P. E. SCHIPPNICK" :: GOSUB 32
38 ROW=17 :: TEXT$="MODIFIED FOR RXB" :: GOSUB 32
39 ! SET-UP ASSEM SUPPORT
40 GOSUB 109
41 ! TEST MAP/PASS
42 GOSUB 112
43 ! TEST FOR AMS SIZE
44 GOSUB 91
45 ! MAPPED PAGES
46 GOSUB 60
47 IF M2=M3 THEN CALL CLEAR :: GOSUB 28 :: PRINT:"* NO AMS CARD" :: CALL SOUND(150,219,5) :: END
48 CALL CLEAR :: GOSUB 28
49 ROW=1 :: TEXT$=" *** AMS QUERY PROGRAM ***" :: GOSUB 32 :: ROW=2 :: TEXT$="VERSION 1.07" :: GOSUB 32
50 AMSSIZE$=STR$(AMSSIZE)&"K RAM"
51 ROW=8 :: TEXT$=" AMS MEMORY = "&AMSSIZE$ :: GOSUB 32
52 IF MAPON=0 THEN ROW=12 :: TEXT$=" AMS CARD 32K PASS MODE" :: GOSUB 32 :: GOTO 59
53 ROW=9 :: TEXT$=" AMS IN MAPPED MEMORY MODE" :: GOSUB 32
54 ROW=12 :: TEXT$="PAGES 8K MEMORY:" :: GOSUB 32
55 ROW=13 :: TEXT$=STR$(M2+O*(M2>=O))&" "&STR$(M3+O*(M3>=O)) :: GOSUB 32
56 ROW=15 :: TEXT$="PAGES 24K MEMORY:" :: GOSUB 32
57 ROW=16 :: TEXT$=STR$(MA+O*(MA>=O))&" "&STR$(MB+O*(MB>=O))&" "&STR$(MC+O*(MC>=O))&" "&STR$(MD+O*(MD>=O))&" "&STR$(ME+O*(ME>=O))&" "&STR$(MF+O*(MF>=O)) :: GOSUB 32
58 ROW=18 :: TEXT$="1-"&STR$(AMSSIZE/4)&" PAGES AVAILBLE." :: GOSUB 32
59 END
60 ! MAPPED AT 23ABCDEF
61 CALL AMSON
62 CALL PEEK(24548,M2) :: CALL PEEK(24550,M3) :: CALL PEEK(24564,MA) :: CALL PEEK(24566,MB) :: CALL PEEK(24568,MC) :: CALL PEEK(24570,MD) :: CALL PEEK(24572,ME)
63 CALL PEEK(24574,MF)
64 CALL AMSOFF
65 RETURN
66 ! MAP 2,3,A,B,C,D,E,F
67 CALL AMSON
68 CALL LOAD(24548,2) :: CALL LOAD(24550,3) :: CALL LOAD(24564,10) :: CALL LOAD(24566,11) :: CALL LOAD(24568,12) :: CALL LOAD(24570,13) :: CALL LOAD(24572,14)
69 CALL LOAD(24574,15)
70 CALL AMSOFF
71 RETURN
72 ! MAP 23 ABCDEF
73 GOSUB 66
74 CALL AMSMAP
75 RETURN
76 ! MAP 23 ABCDEF
77 GOSUB 66
78 CALL AMSPASS
79 RETURN
80 ! MAP MODE ON/OFF
81 CALL AMSON :: CALL PEEK(-31804,H1,H2) :: IF H1+H2 THEN CALL ISROFF(ADDRESS)
82 CALL PEEK(24548,M2) :: CALL PEEK(24550,M3) :: CALL LOAD(24550,M2) :: CALL PEEK(8198,A1,B1) :: CALL PEEK(12294,A2,B2)
83 IF A1=A2 AND B1=B2 THEN MAPON=1 ELSE MAPON=0
84 CALL LOAD(24550,M3)
85 IF H1+H2 THEN CALL ISRON(ADDRESS)
86 CALL AMSOFF
87 RETURN
88 CALL PEEK(12288,OLDV) :: NEWV=255-OLDV :: CALL LOAD(12288,NEWV) :: CALL PEEK(12288,TESTV) :: IF TESTV<>OLDV AND TESTV=NEWV THEN MEM=1 ELSE MEM=0
89 IF MEM=1 THEN CALL LOAD(12288,OLDV)
90 RETURN
91 ! FIND AMS SIZE
92 GOSUB 80 :: IF MAPON=0 THEN GOSUB 72
93 CALL PEEK(-31804,H1,H2) :: IF H1+H2 THEN CALL ISROFF(ADDRESS)
94 ! MAP LOWER PAGES 23
95 CALL AMSON :: CALL PEEK(24548,M2) :: CALL PEEK(24550,M3)
96 CALL LOAD(24548,2,"",24550,3) :: GOSUB 109
97 CALL PEEK(8194,MB1,LB1,MB2,LB2) :: CALL LOAD(8194,MB2,LB2,MB1,LB1)
98 ! 1024K/4=240 PAGES
99 E=256 :: CALL PEEK(24550,M3)
100 CALL LOAD(24550,2+E) :: CALL PEEK(12290,A,B,C,D) :: IF A=MB2 AND B=LB2 AND C=MB1 AND D=LB1 THEN AMSSIZE=E*4 :: GOTO 104
101 GOSUB 88 :: IF MEM=0 THEN AMSSIZE=E*4 :: GOTO 104
102 E=E+32 :: IF E<255 THEN 100
103 AMSSIZE=E*4
104 CALL LOAD(24550,2) :: CALL LOAD(8194,MB1,LB1,MB2,LB2) :: CALL LOAD(24548,M2,"",24550,M3)
105 IF MAPON=0 THEN CALL AMSPASS
106 IF H1+H2 THEN CALL ISRON(ADDRESS)
107 CALL AMSOFF
108 RETURN
109 ! EXPANSION MEMORY?
110 CALL PEEK(-31863,A) :: IF A<>231 THEN CALL SOUND(150,218,0) :: PRINT "* NO EXPANSION MEMORY" :: STOP
111 RETURN
112 ! TEST MAP/PASS MODE?
113 CALL AMSON :: CALL PEEK(24544,M0) :: CALL LOAD(24544,0) :: CALL PEEK(24544,O) :: CALL LOAD(24544,M0) :: CALL AMSOFF :: RETURN
114 END

 

[+FarmerPotato]

 

2 hours ago, FDOS said:

I'm more interested in a side car for a 1 MB SAMS.  I started such a project a year or so ago, more like a mini-PEB, as it was intended for 3 expansion cards.  Unfortunately, my physical capabilities keep going down hill, so not able to to complete that project.  I've also came to the conclusion, that a better project would be a 1 MB SAMS side car suitable for replacing the 32K card use for the more popular TIPI system.  Anyone else interested?

 

Bill

 

I'm about 80% through routing a PCB for a 1MB sidecar. Does one thing well and cheap: replace the 32K sidecar with 1MB. Use with TiPi then.

 

I'll be ordering the first proto from OSH Park in a week. If that goes well, final boards will take a month or two. It will be all thru-hole soldering and kittable.

 

(I do all routing manually to learn as much as possible. In fact, routing PCBs has replaced my game playing, its so fun.)

 

 

[Opry99er]

33 minutes ago, FarmerPotato said:

 

 

I'm about 80% through routing a PCB for a 1MB sidecar. Does one thing well and cheap: replace the 32K sidecar with 1MB. Use with TiPi then.

 

I'll be ordering the first proto from OSH Park in a week. If that goes well, final boards will take a month or two. It will be all thru-hole soldering and kittable.

 

(I do all routing manually to learn as much as possible. In fact, routing PCBs has replaced my game playing, its so fun.)

 

 

 

That will be a big step forward in the modernization of our expansion systems... 

[+FarmerPotato]

11 hours ago, FDOS said:

I'm more interested in a side car for a 1 MB SAMS.  I started such a project a year or so ago, more like a mini-PEB, as it was intended for 3 expansion cards.  Unfortunately, my physical capabilities keep going down hill, so not able to to complete that project.  I've also came to the conclusion, that a better project would be a 1 MB SAMS side car suitable for replacing the 32K card use for the more popular TIPI system.  Anyone else interested?

 

Bill

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[FDOS]

21 hours ago, Asmusr said:

It sounds like 64MB should be plenty then :-)

More than enough!  However, I suppose I could use up to 2 MB.  Although, that might be a stretch for most X4th99 users.

 

RETRO Bill

[FDOS]

11 hours ago, FarmerPotato said:

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Ideal for my purpose!  I might even be able to use it with a NanoPEB by disabling it's 32K!

 

RETRO Bill